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[FidelCashflow]

all the specs are the same bro......and weedstar also uses that treating process and are engineered in germany to the highest standard....also its 5mm thickness. all joints are excatly the same dimensions.........as roor....... you see fancypants ive gone and done my homework. and i just bought a highend glass bong at a low end price. ya see weedstar is a direct competitor to roor and ehliu..only arent nearly as hyped.....so thats why its at a fraction of the cost..cause they NEED to sell them or they are out of business.The only differences are the bowl is more generic and downsteam not diffused....each of those small details (if they at all mattered) are easily fixed...with another 20 bucks.......So sorry I WILL SPEAK CONFIDENTLY AND CLEARLY cause ROOR is hyped and weedstar not. I also understand somepeople feel self consious when they realize they have been had by hype...and need to try and justify it..... so i forgive you..for that...peace to all good night.

ah, i see you've returned. funny, i wasn't expecting that at all.
first of all, the specs are not the same, unless you count the pitiful few numbers that EDIT gives you to be a true run-down of a bong's specific measurements. next time you have a chance, put a RooR and a Weedstar next to each other, and just look at them. a good look will reveal some definite discrepancies. most noticeably, the joint construction, which i already mentioned, is extremely different. RooR joints are far thicker and more uniform than lower end glass joints, and they jut out farther, giving them an angle that provides higher airflow. higher flow, as i said, is the most significant part of what sets the high quality glass bongs apart from lower quality tubes. diffuser and slide combinations can influence the hit greatly, but have nothing to do with the quality of the bong itself. in fact, most RooR bongs come stock with a fairly low quality downstem and a cheap blue-dot slide. it's not until you bring the slide/diffy combo up to par with the quality of the bong that you really begin to notice the difference. be careful when you compare true reputation for quality to hype. i agree that RooR is a popular name among smokers posing as educated connoisseurs, but there is no denying their reputation reflects their products extremely well. don't get defensive, just understand that you're getting what you pay for. don't hate a product because it's name carries a certain stigma to you, actually do some research and try to understand why that product is generally considered far better.

FidelCashflow - - It sounds to me as though you've been caught up by advertising hype and urban rumor. I hear a lot of opinion and few facts.

I have a 2mm RooЯ.de sitting on my desk right now. Are you telling me that it hits better than a WeedStar because it is a RooЯ? Or are you telling me that it hits worse than a WeedStar becasue it's only 2mm thick?

Isn't a lab standard 18.8mm (or 14.5mm) joint the same on a RooЯ, or Ehle, or whatever?

Clue me in .... I'm just a beginner.

-OT

again, i'd like to point out the difference between hype and good reputation. regardless of what the average frat-boy knows about bongs, RooR and other high end glass names take far greater care of the details than other lower end names. Blue Label RooRs are very thin, but they have still been treated with the same standards for quality as any other RooR. glass thickness does little for the hit, it's about the joint construction, and to answer your question, no, RooR joints are not the same as EHLE or Weedstar joints, for reasons i've gone into already. the joint on your blue label RooR provides a better hit than a weedstar, but it may not be as structurally sound all the way around because of the glass thickness. again, you get what you pay for, which is a pretty sound rule to go by when buying glass

 

[AmsterdamnesiA]

As seen as everyone is writing essays, heres mine, If you haven't held a Roor and a Weedstar side by side your opinion is pretty much just speculation on biased hearsay. I own a Weedstar and a few Roors, Weedstar Bongs are excellent value for the money and a really decent piece of kit. The joints are better than some of the other higher end glass bongs like the Hurricane and Phx and Blue-Dot range of pipes, but the glass on glass seal is perfect on Roor bongs. Also the quality of the glass is different, Roor bongs feel less brittle, I have only ever broken 2 diffusers, one Weedstar and one Roor, the Weedstar shattered into bits and the Roor diffuser broke cleanly into a few pieces, I realise they are only diffusers but the quality spoke for it's self.

HDN- If you go into a bong thread with little knowledge of glass pieces (never owning a weedstar piece before, not knowing what a diffuser is, and claiming you have found a comparable piece to a Roor for a tenth of the price((which Roor bong were you comparing with same spec of your Weedstar that costs ten times the price?? The same spec of Roor bong will cost you no more than 250 Dollars!) your going to get some grief).

 

[heavy dank nugg]

As seen as everyone is writing essays, heres mine, If you haven't held a Roor and a Weedstar side by side your opinion is pretty much just speculation on biased hearsay. I own a Weedstar and a few Roors, Weedstar Bongs are excellent value for the money and a really decent piece of kit. The joints are better than some of the other higher end glass bongs like the Hurricane and Phx and Blue-Dot range of pipes, but the glass on glass seal is perfect on Roor bongs. Also the quality of the glass is different, Roor bongs feel less brittle, I have only ever broken 2 diffusers, one Weedstar and one Roor, the Weedstar shattered into bits and the Roor diffuser broke cleanly into a few pieces, I realise they are only diffusers but the quality spoke for it's self.

HDN- If you go into a bong thread with little knowledge of glass pieces (never owning a weedstar piece before, not knowing what a diffuser is, and claiming you have found a comparable piece to a Roor for a tenth of the price((which Roor bong were you comparing with same spec of your Weedstar that costs ten times the price?? The same spec of Roor bong will cost you no more than 250 Dollars!) your going to get some grief).

hey man thanks for the lecture......ill advise you to actually read the 1st post i made in refrence to the weed star and ill thank you in advance for your apoligy.........you will then see that in a matter of posts I was being ridiculed....by the way specs dont lie bro..........excat same ........ roor as you said for a competitive bong is 5 x the price....

 

[heavy dank nugg]

ah, i see you've returned. funny, i wasn't expecting that at all.
first of all, the specs are not the same, unless you count the pitiful few numbers that EDIT gives you to be a true run-down of a bong's specific measurements. next time you have a chance, put a RooR and a Weedstar next to each other, and just look at them. a good look will reveal some definite discrepancies. most noticeably, the joint construction, which i already mentioned, is extremely different. RooR joints are far thicker and more uniform than lower end glass joints, and they jut out farther, giving them an angle that provides higher airflow. higher flow, as i said, is the most significant part of what sets the high quality glass bongs apart from lower quality tubes. diffuser and slide combinations can influence the hit greatly, but have nothing to do with the quality of the bong itself. in fact, most RooR bongs come stock with a fairly low quality downstem and a cheap blue-dot slide. it's not until you bring the slide/diffy combo up to par with the quality of the bong that you really begin to notice the difference. be careful when you compare true reputation for quality to hype. i agree that RooR is a popular name among smokers posing as educated connoisseurs, but there is no denying their reputation reflects their products extremely well. don't get defensive, just understand that you're getting what you pay for. don't hate a product because it's name carries a certain stigma to you, actually do some research and try to understand why that product is generally considered far better.

again, i'd like to point out the difference between hype and good reputation. regardless of what the average frat-boy knows about bongs, RooR and other high end glass names take far greater care of the details than other lower end names. Blue Label RooRs are very thin, but they have still been treated with the same standards for quality as any other RooR. glass thickness does little for the hit, it's about the joint construction, and to answer your question, no, RooR joints are not the same as EHLE or Weedstar joints, for reasons i've gone into already. the joint on your blue label RooR provides a better hit than a weedstar, but it may not be as structurally sound all the way around because of the glass thickness. again, you get what you pay for, which is a pretty sound rule to go by when buying glass

dude you are delirous they are the excat same joints same glass same angel same tretment...I did the research 4 hrs worth lastnight... they are the same....why cant you get over yourself? you keep refering to my bong as low end when in fact its far superior to your standard cheapass glass bong. as is roor..... but roor is 10 x the price......and from all the reports ive read roor is having some trouble justifying their reasons for the hike up or should i say hype up.

 

[heavy dank nugg]

top artists like beyonce or kelly clarkson or like picasso or van gough ????

or like Dj short or shantibabba? cause both weedstar and roor and all the rest are made in factorys by non artists...but by glass blowers who can follow specific instructions.......

 

[RooR HeaD]

dude you are delirous they are the excat same joints same glass same angel same tretment...I did the research 4 hrs worth lastnight... they are the same....why cant you get over yourself? you keep refering to my bong as low end when in fact its far superior to your standard cheapass glass bong. as is roor..... but roor is 10 x the price......and from all the reports ive read roor is having some trouble justifying their reasons for the hike up or should i say hype up.

Bro comon r u seriously trying to compare a weed star to a german roor! Its like saying a timex is the same thing as a rolex cause they both keep time! YOur paying for quality not a name when u buy a roor! And how can u hate on a german roor IF U NEVER EVEN SEEN ONE OR HELD ONE IS MY QUESTION?

and what research did u really sit down for 4 hours fairy tales on the internet! just cause it say 5mms doesnt mean its the same thing! ITs a known fact roor uses bettter boro then any other company has been for a long time! and specs bro u line 100 weed stars up and u line a 100 german roors up! 10 out of the 100 weedstars will have teh same joint angel.99 out of a100 des will have the same joint angel! u paid for qualit if weedstar was as good as roor then they would b a million dollar company like roor!

over all these years if german roors truely r as bad as u say they r do u think they would b in the game this long and have as much money as they have!

Bro and hype im sorry i have the money to buy nice glass should i buy shitty glass cause u think its a better deal? and has the same specs!

ill make this easy for u cause u said all toobs hit the same!

which one do u think will give u a bigger and cleaner hit your low end weed star or this!

THIS IS WHAT U GET WHEN U BUY QUALITY AND A WEED STAR IS WHAT U GET IF U HAVE A LOWER BUDGET ITS THAT SIMPLE DONT COME IN HEAR AND SAY ITS BETTER THEN THEN BIG NAME COMPANYS CAUSE U DONT EVEN OWN ONE! SO HOW CAN U HATE!

AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN U WERE ORDERING YOUR TOOB IF U HAD THE MONEY U WOULD OF BOUGHT A EHLE OR ROOR IF U COULD OF AFFORDED IT!

 

[CANNACO-OP]

Plus more faces all over.

 

[heavy dank nugg]

Bro comon r u seriously trying to compare a weed star to a german roor! Its like saying a timex is the same thing as a rolex cause they both keep time! YOur paying for quality not a name when u buy a roor! And how can u hate on a german roor IF U NEVER EVEN SEEN ONE OR HELD ONE IS MY QUESTION?

and what research did u really sit down for 4 hours fairy tales on the internet! just cause it say 5mms doesnt mean its the same thing! ITs a known fact roor uses bettter boro then any other company has been for a long time! and specs bro u line 100 weed stars up and u line a 100 german roors up! 10 out of the 100 weedstars will have teh same joint angel.99 out of a100 des will have the same joint angel! u paid for qualit if weedstar was as good as roor then they would b a million dollar company like roor!

over all these years if german roors truely r as bad as u say they r do u think they would b in the game this long and have as much money as they have!

Bro and hype im sorry i have the money to buy nice glass should i buy shitty glass cause u think its a better deal? and has the same specs!

ill make this easy for u cause u said all toobs hit the same!

which one do u think will give u a bigger and cleaner hit your low end weed star or this!

THIS IS WHAT U GET WHEN U BUY QUALITY AND A WEED STAR IS WHAT U GET IF U HAVE A LOWER BUDGET ITS THAT SIMPLE DONT COME IN HEAR AND SAY ITS BETTER THEN THEN BIG NAME COMPANYS CAUSE U DONT EVEN OWN ONE! SO HOW CAN U HATE!

AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN U WERE ORDERING YOUR TOOB IF U HAD THE MONEY U WOULD OF BOUGHT A EHLE OR ROOR IF U COULD OF AFFORDED IT!

see this is where you continue to be WRONG.. ITS NOT ABOUT BUDGET.its about best buy for the buck. best quality vs price..... weedstar is german engineered in the vsame damn factory as roor and ehle. dude i pitty you cause you have been getting jacked........best value for the buck...weedstar best quality vs price ratio...weedstar
best hype driven marketing strategy.......roor. most over rated....roor

craftmanship..................draw..... both fine glass pieces...one company is significantly less expensive but is paralell in quality.....Those are my points.bro no hate for you or roor....just commited to seeing the truth get out there......Ive done that......peeps can decide for themselves and should not be ridiculed for it. ive for your info smoked out of many many roor bongs...... (that toro is one of the finest pieces ive seen by the way.)
and can atest there is a difference.and agaig youve offered only opnion and no fact. bro... the joints the plugs the angles all the same bro.I think your mad cause your finding out that weedstar is actually exceptional quality for the meger price.........as will I 2 min. after the mailman drops it off.

 

[AmsterdamnesiA]

hey man thanks for the lecture......ill advise you to actually read the 1st post i made in refrence to the weed star and ill thank you in advance for your apoligy.........you will then see that in a matter of posts I was being ridiculed....by the way specs dont lie bro..........excat same ........ roor as you said for a competitive bong is 5 x the price....

Sorry I didn't mean to offend you I was just trying to keep you more informed about the reason for Roors being high priced compared to Weedstars. Also i think you may find if you re-read the spec of the bong you posted it is 3mm thick not 5mm. I'm not ridiculing you just trying to help. Please stop mis-informing people about Roor. I agree about Weedstars being very good value for money but Roors are about being as close to perfection as possible. Anyways enjoy your new piece, Peace.

 

[Bobby Stainless]

Bro comon r u seriously trying to compare a weed star to a german roor! Its like saying a timex is the same thing as a rolex cause they both keep time!

I hope you use spell check for your school papers. Comparing a Timex and Rolex is not the same as comparing a WS and Roor. The two bongs are made of the SAME material. Timex are plastic and metal, while Rolex will use precious metal and jewels. I know because I have two Datejust Rolex, and I also have two Tags. However, I used to wear Ironmans, and they are fantastic watches.

and what research did u really sit down for 4 hours fairy tales on the internet! just cause it say 5mms doesnt mean its the same thing! ITs a known fact roor uses bettter boro then any other company has been for a long time!

Boro is boro. It has 70% silica, 10% boron oxide, 8% sodium oxide, 8% potassium oxide, and 1% lime. That's what it is.

AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN U WERE ORDERING YOUR TOOB IF U HAD THE MONEY U WOULD OF BOUGHT A EHLE OR ROOR IF U COULD OF AFFORDED IT!

I have heard you say some stupid shit TorO HeaD, but this is your crowing achievement. I have a Perc'd WS, with a RooR diffy, and the thing works great. I would like a Toro, but I do not know where to buy them online. As for RooR, my WS straight tube that cost me 35 bucks, will blow your head off just like a RooR will. For me, I would rather spend money on a perc'd tube like your Toro, then a straight tube like a Ziggy. The only time I ever hit my non perc'd bong is when I feel like being stupid. Then I hack my ass off for 30 minutes. WS is the only company that EDIT sells, that have percs.

Now to say I didn't buy a RooR, because I didn't have the money is retarded. I drive the fastest production sedan on the market, and my seed collection dwarfs the money you have in glass. Some people, like to spend money on different things. I notice that you have a tube television still. For me, I can't watch non HD tv anymore, so your TV would be in the garbage at my house. I have a 55" Samsung 1080p LED with a double clocked 120/240 processor.

Just because I don't see the point in spending big money on a staight tube, doesn't mean I can't afford it. Both are going to deliver a hit I don't want. Once again, Toros are awesome, but RooRs are just over priced production bongs. They are NO different then EHLE and cost 10-20% more. The RooR customs are just retarded.

The problem with this thread is all the punks in here. If someone only wants to spend 50-60 bucks on a tube, who the fuck cares? Let's all try to act like adults, even though it is obvious some of you aren't.

To me, it makes more sense to buy a 150 dollar WS, and spend 500 on a Water Farm and 1000 watt.

 

[ChuckMoney]

Any opinions on US Tubes? Looking at getting a 50 x 9mm strait for a DD. I really like the looks of the thick joints. My buddy has a .DE 5mm and it always worried me about the joint thickness, not something I'd expect from "the best in the world."

US Tubes are among some of the finest tubes made based upon the criteria of quality of the glass being used, the attention to detail they put in every piece, and the durability and strength of design they use. I own a 50x7mm beaker and it is without a doubt a daily driver, but all my pieces are.

Also for the people who claim that Roor and Weedstar are all made from the same glass, you might want to do more research. Simax =/= Schott and borosilicate glass is not the same regardless of where its made. RooR, Ehle and Weedstar are made in completely different factories with different proprietary blends of glass, its a fact. I'm not here to tell you what's better than what, but I will tell you, I've smoked out of all 3 and I definitely have my own preferences. To say that they all use the same joints is mularkey as well because just look at that weedstar's joint next to an ehle joint or a bistable roor joint, or god forbid one of the massive joints on a us tube 7mm or 9mm. It's not like comparing a timex to a rolex, its like comparing a ford festiva to an aston martin, they both get you there, its how they do it that's different. Of course if you spend more money you're going to get something better than spending less, that's the nature of things. Roor didn't get to be such a great brand without making a stellar product, there are many other companies that have come around since roor started, and not many of them can match their quality or craftsmanship. I've never seen a .de roor that had a defect, odd angled joint, misplaced label, shotty weld, thin base etc. Their quality control is so ridiculously good that it speaks for itself. That being said, there are other companies that offer stellar products as well, US Tubes, Toro, SG, DC, EHLE, and even SYN and Illa are starting to get on their game.

I used to own an Illadelph for a long time and I loved it, but for me to find one in the shop that was up to par, I had to look through almost every one of them and go over them with a fine toothed comb, so I didn't buy one with a wobbly joint, shitty weld or base, off centered label, etc. These are all things that matter to me when I buy a piece, I understand if you think its all about getting the best bang for your buck, but there has never been a situation where if you make an educated decision, you don't get what you pay for. That being said, all GonG bongs are nice, and I'm sure you weedstar owners will enjoy them, however my run-ins with Ziggy have left a bad taste in my mouth so I for one stay away from their product. To each his own though, I know no one buys anything that they don't like.

Cheers, and to make this a legit post.

Just got this motherfuckin freight train Arty/Chris Carlson Collab Set to go with my other Arty Bub.

Came with a matchin nug jug and slide, I put a little somethin somethin from the back yard in there too.

Here it is with its brotha from anotha motha, the banana hammock.

Better Pics of the Freight Train (Arty/CAC) can be found here
http://www.glasspipes.org/Gal27821_clucky_like_the_wolf.asp

All of you who haven't seen the original banana hammock pics can gawk over here.
http://www.glasspipes.org/Gal30224_thee_banana_hammock.asp

 

[MidLifeCrisis]

Any opinions on US Tubes? Looking at getting a 50 x 9mm strait for a DD.

I really like the US Tubes Johnny Rotten... Very straight forward tubes,...They're solid as hell and do the job perfectly. For the money, you're not going to get any better IMHO....I've got 4 of 'em. 50x5mm natural, 50x7mm natural, 50x9 straight, and the 60x9 beaker. All are used frequently... Go for it JR, you won't be disappointed...

edited to add...That's a killer Arty/Chris Carlson Collab Set Chuck Monkey I was eyeing that one...LOL!!!

 

[JohnnyATL]

illy 9mm ftw

 

[Bobby Stainless]

I am not really sure of the point of thicker glass.

Is it just for durability? Or do people like the weight of them?

Where can a person buy a Toro online? I live out in the sticks, so no headshops, unless you count the gas station.

 

[ChuckMoney]

Toro doesn't have any online outlets that I know of. Thicker glass has a higher stress/strain resistance, its more durable, as well as more resistant to large temperature differentials, as well as higher impact absorption.

 

[FidelCashflow]

dude you are delirous they are the excat same joints same glass same angel same tretment...I did the research 4 hrs worth lastnight... they are the same....why cant you get over yourself? you keep refering to my bong as low end when in fact its far superior to your standard cheapass glass bong. as is roor..... but roor is 10 x the price......and from all the reports ive read roor is having some trouble justifying their reasons for the hike up or should i say hype up.

top artists like beyonce or kelly clarkson or like picasso or van gough ????

or like Dj short or shantibabba? cause both weedstar and roor and all the rest are made in factorys by non artists...but by glass blowers who can follow specific instructions.......

you know what, i've actually come to the conclusion that you're out of your damn mind. very little of what you've provided as an argument has any basis in fact, mostly i think you're trolling at this point. please (and i do mean this sincerely) enjoy that bong, god knows you fought hard enough for it. i'm sure it will get you very high, and you will love it. personally, i have different preferences for glass, but if you're willing to accept the lower quality in favor of a great price, more power to you. i try as often as possible not to sound like an elitist prick, but to witness sheer denial of fact brings out a mean streak in me. you've been provided with the facts, it's your choice as to whether or not you want to learn anything from them

 

[Mr. Justin]

I am not really sure of the point of thicker glass.

Is it just for durability? Or do people like the weight of them?

Where can a person buy a Toro online? I live out in the sticks, so no headshops, unless you count the gas station.

Toro stays offline, for fear of another Operation Pipe Dreams. You can get Wicked Sands and US Tubes online though as well as Illadelph, though I have heard numerous reports that Illadelph are the BlueDot of high end tubes.

I would go for a WickedSands Tinytube w/ 10 arm tree, or a normal sized tree on a tinytube.

US Tubes are excellent as well, and reportedly have the "best" discs.

Though, I am deeply in love with Wicked Sands... they are amazing. You're on Toke city aren't you? Try to contact lil_missy from wicked sands, she will set you up with whatever you wish..


Roor.de is expensive, because they have a handful of employees making tubes, and each person must have around 7 years of experience with glassblowing and scientific glass (required!). A person buys a .de because they want supreme quality. This isn't to say that other companies aren't quality, but any random bluedot or weedstar is not going to be the same as a .de, whether it's minor imperfections or large ones, .de is known for having none.

A friend in Europe has about 20 tubes, custom roors, a toro, handpicked tokecity tube (one of two people who got to hand pick theirs!) and he rarely uses the Toro because of drag. Mind you, this is probably one of maybe 5, MAYBE 5 Toros in Europe. It could quite possibly be the only Toro in Europe.

Personally, his statements about his Toro, have pretty much made me cross out Toro from my own wish list. Roorheads dumbass had to buy 5 to get the one he liked, can you imagine buying 5 dream tubes, and not liking 4 of them?

I say go Wicked Sands, super quality, made in the usa and you can custom order...the tinytubes have absolutely ZERO drag with a tree perc... they are amazing! if you order a custom, ask em about getting a taller one... only issue with the Tinys is height... the inside bore is perfect for clean smooth hits, but it just needs more room to rip it... well you can definitely rip a TT, but I would prefer a taller one myself.. :0

 

[BudToaster]

stumbling toward Bud Toaster Model 13, Version 6 dash 3

stumbling toward Bud Toaster Model 13, Version 6 dash 3

This is the breadboard for this next version of the Bud Toaster - digital temperature control, all glass air flow, battery powered, self contained.

And it works just fine.

Now i need to get it inside the cherry wood and stainless steel enclosure ...

 

[MidLifeCrisis]

Roorhead had to buy 5 to get the one he liked, can you imagine buying 5 dream tubes, and not liking 4 of them?

...Right?!! No offense...but I mean REALLY?? LOL!!

I say go Wicked Sands, super quality, made in the usa and you can custom order...the tinytubes have absolutely ZERO drag with a tree perc... they are amazing! if you order a custom, ask em about getting a taller one...

I've heard nothing but good things about Wicked Sands...and they are priced "right". They're on my list for sure.... LiL_Missy rocks!!!

 

[Capn]

I love my WS Minibeaker. With an Alex K Showerhead diffy you can rip it as hard as you can without any spashback. The price right.