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The Future of Cannabis

FreedomFGHTR

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Oh my bad ureapwhatusow, I didn't catch that part. I thought for some reason this thread was about imagining the future, ok.

Thats what is so interesting the future is here in some parts of the world. As a matter of fact the last run in I had with the cops I told them to search my place. I encouraged them too. Someone claimed I made a threat involving a gun. I said I grow pot and am a convicted felon, there is no way I have a gun. Come tear the place apart. Not being afraid of the police anymore is nice.
 

johnipedestran

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Ahh YouReap.....

stoned late night thinking is what I am doing right now. Having recently written my State reps regarding a medical bill currently up, this is the first time I have "stepped out of the shadows"

as to your comment on healing society, I do not hold out such hope, but I do share your view that simple decrim is the real answer. Sold in stores, available freely to those over 21 or 18, in an environment much like Beer is sold today. You can buy low grade mass produced beer or you can buy small batch craft brewed beer. Corporate weed as well as OG Kush will be sold side by side. The corporate stuff will command a lower price......the dank organic will command a higher price.

all that being said, I would never have believed that we would see the changes in this country.

In October of 1990, I participated in a March for legalization in DC. We rallied at the White House, then marched to the Capital. I stood on the steps of the US Capital, sharing a joint with friends and listened to what was going to happen with Legalization. Pretty sure Herer was one of the main speakers. I believed then, lost the belief for a while and now believe again.

peace
jip
 

love?

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In the future, when we'll no longer have to hide it, I see less and less emphasis on indoor growing and more on outdoor and greenhouse growing. Windowsill growing will be very common for personal stash.
 
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ureapwhatusow

Oh my bad ureapwhatusow, I didn't catch that part. I thought for some reason this thread was about imagining the future, ok.

Its all good, i often find i get interpreted differently that intended

its a little bit "far out"

my intention is to try to get every one to sit back and envision what good marijuana will have on the world once the negative stigma is gone

I am sure we all, at one time or another, sit back and smoke and have a realization of how amazing pot is, and some of these realization has specific conditions

I really believe in the prospect of marijuana saving mankind

not because it in itself has a will or the power to change things

but that by its virtue for use as a food, fuel, medicine, fiber or the many uses we have yet to discover, that it is at the apex of the plant kingdom, much like we are at the apex of the animal kingdom
 
Glow in the dark cannabis? Is that so I can find my plants in the corn fields at night?

I don't really care what happens, it would be great to have a more intelligent and enlightened society around me. I have nobody with any sense anywhere near me, hard to find friends with an extremely terrifying Government.

I can get used to prison, I can't get used to losing property. Having to rebuild a life every time getting out of prison. Just to set up all over again what they sent you there for, that seems incredibly expensive. It takes Uncle Sam at least three times as much to pay for me in prison as on the outside. That is outside of court costs, Judges are not cheap they do work more than they cost. But anyhow, it is purely inefficient to be this retarded about drugs. It isn't about right or wrong, it is about efficiency so they are wrong. I could help this country a lot more, if the public was not dumb.

I think the negative stigma about pot is good, it makes the high much more enjoyable when relaxed. People don't know how to meditate, they medicate with prisons and very dangerous pharmaceuticals. It would be neat, if cops took Thorazine, I think it would make them feel better.

I'd rather have a very close knit and well ran underground community, then they can make it all illegal and we can fight to the death. It would be great, if they could just keep their hands to themselves or use some intelligent discretion. Underground communities have a lot of drama, it is all pretty stupid.
 

Phillthy

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i will tackle this from a different angle. i see the "hybrid craze" driving cannabis into a very scatter bred plant with nothing breeding true anymore. Unless care is taken to set, and preserve strains and traits then it will always be a roll of the dice when each seed is germed. my hats off to breeders and hobbyists that preserve landraces and set strains. without true breeding parents, hybrids would have no consistency and there would be no ability to come close to foreseeing what you would get from a cross.
 

FreedomFGHTR

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A hemp oil powered biodiesel car would be a nice thing to have. Literally a car that smokes weed to power itself!
 

dilbert

New member
Its all good, i often find i get interpreted differently that intended

its a little bit "far out"

my intention is to try to get every one to sit back and envision what good marijuana will have on the world once the negative stigma is gone

I am sure we all, at one time or another, sit back and smoke and have a realization of how amazing pot is, and some of these realization has specific conditions

I really believe in the prospect of marijuana saving mankind

not because it in itself has a will or the power to change things

but that by its virtue for use as a food, fuel, medicine, fiber or the many uses we have yet to discover, that it is at the apex of the plant kingdom, much like we are at the apex of the animal kingdom
It would be too good to be true, that would require mankind not to be greedy, evil, selfish. I too once had those dreams, but this world is filled with many evil men.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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No I don't think that marijuana (cannabis) can save mankind from his/her excesses.....

.....but I know that the legalization/decriminalization of it will save many from being un-justly incarcerated, victimized and so estranged from the worlds governments....

We should be free to consume cannabis as we are alcohol, tobacco, coffee or tea......and left alone to grow it if we so choose as we are free to grow corn, hops, barley, coffee, tea or tobacco e.t.c.....

As I look into my crystal ball as an optimist I see our political leaders realizing finally that policy towards this plant has been completely wrong over the past 80 plus years and that they need to change the laws to serve the will and well-being of the people........and to save/free those victimized by a victimless crime......
 
The Peltzman effect, basically how when laws or measures are met. People increase their risks, so this makes everything very effortless. I agree that things become awfully commercial and lose their creative integrity. I sure don't get any of the mass money farming goods, I still have to grow for myself. I think if I stay out of prison long enough, I can be the best in my state. Not a cash farmer, but breeding most importantly manifesting the best 'crop'. I guess it is like Northern Cali, lot's of crap and some really good people. I think the smart ones, hide like a hermit in the lab. Looks a lot like some ancient alchemy, some kind of wizard turned Einstein on L.
 

Kush_Master

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I am very optimistic that i will witness a legalization/decriminalization in my lifetime (24 now).
It could take 20-30 years but i think its gonna happen, theres so many changes right now.

I think in 100 years ppl will look back and shake their heads at how stupid these times were, like we now look back in disbelief at alcohol prohibition. "can you believe it? marijuana was illegal back then ahaha..."
 

FreedomFGHTR

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I am very optimistic that i will witness a legalization/decriminalization in my lifetime (24 now).
It could take 20-30 years but i think its gonna happen, theres so many changes right now.

It will happen a lot sooner than that. Look at where California is 13 years after prop 215. Today on the news they were talking about a possible ballot initiative for 2010 to legalize cannabis. I give it 14 years before teh issue is pushed so hard by the states that the feds have no choice but to concede that they lost.
 

dilbert

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No I don't think that marijuana (cannabis) can save mankind from his/her excesses.....

.....but I know that the legalization/decriminalization of it will save many from being un-justly incarcerated, victimized and so estranged from the worlds governments....

We should be free to consume cannabis as we are alcohol, tobacco, coffee or tea......and left alone to grow it if we so choose as we are free to grow corn, hops, barley, coffee, tea or tobacco e.t.c.....

As I look into my crystal ball as an optimist I see our political leaders realizing finally that policy towards this plant has been completely wrong over the past 80 plus years and that they need to change the laws to serve the will and well-being of the people........and to save/free those victimized by a victimless crime......

We will never be free, no one ever will. No one anywhere outright owns their house or land, they still pay the state property tax for the land which they "own" but merely pay lease on but bought with a deposit technically. We were born into a world where if you're not the part of the ruling elite, you're just living on rent in their world, not yours.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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We will never be free, no one ever will. No one anywhere outright owns their house or land, they still pay the state property tax for the land which they "own" but merely pay lease on but bought with a deposit technically. We were born into a world where if you're not the part of the ruling elite, you're just living on rent in their world, not yours.

when I say 'free'....I mean free from being locked up for using, growing or supplying cannabis......and I own my own land.......but still have to pay $30 a year land taxes.....for that I get a road to use that brings me there......

....and I was born in a caravan......to poor parents who definately were not anything to do with some ruling elite......more like a nomadic working class....
 

dilbert

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Yeah man, more free than we are now hopefully. I was born to working class parents too, father ex-army, mother worked on and off, but thats cool about your parents.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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$30 a year for property taxes? Sure it's not 30K and a lot of land?

....not where I'm at man......it's $30 a year presently......mind you it's far from the western world where those sort of prices you are quoting might be the cost......


....anyway, lets get back to the topic of this thread, looks like we are drifting......
 

FreedomFGHTR

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An interesting thing that I see happening during the emergence of a legal cannabis market is competing views on how cannabis should be. For example you have the Big Corporations on one hand (monsanto and friends) and then you have the old school cannabis as a way of life (pretty much us on this forum) people. There will be fights over patents and copyrights. People trying to ensure no one else can have their select genes. People purposely releasing pollen near competitors grow sites. Greenhouses with HEPA filers.
 
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