Reversed Backcrossing:)

[heavy dank nugg]

i love idiots who drop in on the last page of a thread use their superhuman powers of comprehension. believe they understand the subject when they dont. and start spouting useless garbage cause they cant find a valid arguement. and they think that cause they sent in some hermie beans to a auction means their entilted. love it

 

[Azra'eil]

ho fellows calm down, no need to begin a fight, we have different opinions and thats all

 

[BeAn]

its not gona stay a lesbo affair B....

SELFING is just meant to put Allele into a homogeneous state

then Quantitative trait locus location is indicated only by looking at which markers give the greatest differences between genotype group averages,...

ITS THE SPECIAL CLONES THAT ARE THE MARKERS,,,,,,,they actualy have a "special" coding, that makes "special" protine an thus making phenotype,,,,,,,an it differs from the others in the same line.....so it can

once you have identified the special stuff,,,,,its time to isolate it, ready for outcossing,,,since the genes are in a homogeneous state, ITS ALL GOOD!!.....FUK IT,,,,,,,,do you not like the idea B?....I have respect for your ethics,,,

ja bless,,ya know what im sayin,,,,peace be opon you........i prommise i wont let this escape into the world and fuc with the overall genome

is that cool enough B,,,i know you hate this stuff as if it is the devil,,,,,,an i can see why.....i dont want to disturbe you



imo
sefing is something the big boys seem to be cool with,,,

but we can agree to diss-agree

hows things with you bro?

love u

Haha rick, way 2 deep 4 me, im jst against the whole commrcial femd bulshit, kinda know wat ur up2 now man, fair play 2 ya n mre fire all day long, im jst old fashioned maybe lol. You have invoked the spirits of many legends of our hobby in ya (not so) little thread. Respection 4ya speculation rick, been eating books 4 lunch me thinks.:smile:
Jah love.

 

[Forest20]

Are you ruling in tri-quad poly munts or Hermie?

I was just re-reading this thread. An one question keep appearing in my mind " Tell me one breeder that can say with 110% guarantee that their plants will not or can not have "mutants" traits." It is fair too say "WE" don't know the outcome until we grow it out.

 

[englishrick]

the IBL route is what i am going through, but im going to be using best select S1's to outcross with substitute f2 fathers,

then use an S1xF2 father back onto the cheese, create ibl's from there.

cork,,,,,IM STARTING TO LOVE READING YOUR POSTS...

S1 x F2 farther is a grate idea,,,,,,,an it follows col`s understanding perfectly,,,,,,he loves the F2`s,,,he says F2 is real keeper zone

the fact that your using an S1 as a mother is wickid if you ask me,,,,the S1 is gona put things on the road to homogeneous genes...

i like you ideas!!,,,,,,,GOOD STUFF ,,,,i would say you have grasped the main understanding of this thread,,,,,,

dont know about your cuts in the us, but the cheese is almost bullet proof to herming, you NEED chemicals to get this girl to flap balls, alot of the offspring should still prove to be true females simply because the cheese is true breeding, 21 year old genetics in a clone mate..

the right selection of the true females and using chemicals to enduce male flowers, ISNT hermie pollenchucking.

YEP....AGAIN YOUR RIGHT ,,,,so right it takes the piss,,,,,,,,

by mine and cols oppinion.....

i dont want to put words in cols mouth. but i think listent to him for a pretty long time, an i know enough to say "im pretty sure , from your post, that I think ,we all see eye to eye to some extent"

YEH CHEESE IS BULLET PROOF,,,,,,but its the stress testing that is the main factor in identifing intersexed traits.........IF A PLANT CANT TAKE THE STRESS TEST, then its classed a hermi,,,,,,,,

also,,,,HERMI TRAITS MANIFEST THEMSELFS IS VARIABLE MANNOR,,,THE HERMI TRAIT CAN BE RECCESIVE TOO........BUT ITS ALL DOWN TO STRESS TESTING,,!!!!,,,,fact!!!!

JUST REMEMBER HERMI TRAITS CAN EASLY HIDE IN THE RECESSIVE PARTS OF A highly heterozygote seedline sutch as regular M/F seedlines......


"in my opinion, not cols"
making things Homozygote is the only way to see a intersexed tait if its locked in the reccesive part of a heterozygote seedline sutch as regular M/F seeds,,,,,


THE FACT THAT CHEESE IS BULLET PROOF IS A MAIN FACTOR HERE,,,,,FACT!!

well i can agree with the too many fem seeds, i wouldnt want to breed fem seeds probably because it is very hard to avoid herming seeds, but i respect ricks aspirations on the subject and i feel some realy nice clones may flow about the uk from it, or even better a very well established fem seedline. .

THANKYOU,,,,,,,BIG RESPECT,,,

 

[englishrick]

i love idiots who drop in on the last page of a thread use their superhuman powers of comprehension. believe they understand the subject when they dont. and start spouting useless garbage cause they cant find a valid arguement. and they think that cause they sent in some hermie beans to a auction means their entilted. love it

BRO.....im rely sorry about this but i need to tell you something

i cant help but ingnore you at the min,,,,,,,,im sure you have no respect for books amazing,,,,,,what your sayin contradicts all the big boys

why are you using this word hermi,,,,,,,,try using the words INTERSEXED TRAIT,,,,,then try and remember an intersexed trait is phenotype

BRO PLEASE ,do some reading for fuk sake,,,i love you but your talking sh1t

 

[englishrick]

OH YEH.......HEAVY D,,,,,,I JUST WANT TO SAY

POLYGENERIC TRAITS make up phenotype,,,,INTERSEXED TRAITS are probbly POLYGENERIC,,,,then they DONOT FOLLOW MENDILIAN INHERITANCE.........

please bro,,,,get a clue

 

[englishrick]

Haha rick, way 2 deep 4 me, im jst against the whole commrcial femd bulshit, kinda know wat ur up2 now man, fair play 2 ya n mre fire all day long, im jst old fashioned maybe lol. You have invoked the spirits of many legends of our hobby in ya (not so) little thread. Respection 4ya speculation rick, been eating books 4 lunch me thinks.:smile:
Jah love.

smokin the pages of them books maybe B,,,,,,reading,me,lol,,,,,,maybe in time

 

[englishrick]

i prommised myself i would not post in this thread untill i STS the cheese this week

looks like that 1` out the window

 

[heavy dank nugg]

I just felt like stirring up a bit of trouble this morning rick. i do wish you luck on the real. but i do believe if you force a true f to intersex then it dose indeed pass its intersexed dna on. i mean for real i used a example of reverse bxing with dogs.... read it. tell me how in theroy its different.? if you really liked me you'd have returned the rep i gave you. anyway ill leave your thread now ive said my peace oh by the way a phenotype is a indivdual expression of collected dna found witin a genotype. in other words the dna dont change just the combonation. and if you read anything youd know that this plant is one of the most researched and least understood. so really its all just which side of the fence your on.

 

[englishrick]

i cant edit my posts an i cant give rep...i would have bro , honestly

i would say the DNA does not change in sex revercal,,,,you just alter the expression fo a short while ,,,,,witch is all about phenotype again

 

[heavy dank nugg]

its all good rick . at least your intrested in trying to push the boundries. im down with that.

 

[englishrick]

thats it man,,

i love ya

 

[englishrick]

btw.......phenotype is the expression of DNA ,,,,the expression is variable to its enviroment

good sex revercal is basicly changing the expression though altering of enviroment

 

[englishrick]

all female canna plants can express themselvs as a male due to enviroment......

but the DNA is stays the same....and when the enviroment allows it,,the plant will express itself as a true female once again,,,with no intersexed expression

baicly;;;;;;;;;;inheritance is not effected by sex revercal

 

[heavy dank nugg]

btw.......phenotype is the expression of DNA ,,,,the expression is variable to its enviroment

good sex revercal is basicly changing the expression though altering of enviroment

excatly what i said a indivdual expression within a genotype. the genotype carries the dna. and recombines its order in the phenotype

 

[heavy dank nugg]

btw.......phenotype is the expression of DNA ,,,,the expression is variable to its enviroment

good sex revercal is basicly changing the expression though altering of enviroment

excatly what i said a indivdual expression within a genotype. the genotype carries the dna. and recombines its order in the phenotype im out for the night rick keep it green. wow sorry for the double post. my bad

 

[englishrick]

yeh,,,the geneome carries the DNA

i think you said ,,,,,"DNA recombine its order in the phenotype"

that makes no sence bro,,,,!!!!

phenotype is the expression DNA in relation to its enviroment,,,,,

the position and order of alleles & loci make the DNA sequence ......

quantitative traits and monogeneric make the overall expression of phenotype

please explain what your sayin...it make no sence bro!!

 

[heavy dank nugg]

here is what i said copy and pasted

a phenotype is a indivdual expression of collected dna found witin a genotype. in other words the dna dont change just the combonation. and if you read anything youd know that this plant is one of the most researched and least understood. so really its all just which side of the fence your on.
im all debated out for the day man can we be friends now c'mon rick can you not see this is one area we a ctually agree

 

[englishrick]

i think your grate test cases ,,,when it comes to changing peoples understanding of Fem seeds