good point,,,,,but then again il probbly find the "real keepers/smokables" in later outcrosses
Reversed Backcrossing:)
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nite GMT,,,,thanks for joining me here
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Hazeseeker
Hey Rick,
i know you said you've got your heart set on reversing the Cheese straight away and totally forgetting about using the Skunk male you have,
why not go both ways if you've got the space?, i've already noticed there arguments for both sides on this topic (feminsed route, regular route), at this stage neither of these can be ruled out obviously until you see the results, so if it was me this is what i'd do:
Regular Project A
Uk Cheese x Skunk #1, then move onto the F2 gen + further depending on results through each gen
Regular Project B
[Uk Cheese x Skunk #1] x [Uk Cheese] (depending on results along the line continue backcrossing to the Uk Cheese just out of curiosity)
Regular Project B(i)
[Uk Cheese x Skunk #1] x [Uk Cheese] 1IX, 2IX etc until desired result is reached
at the same time playing around and experimenting with the feminised project as well,
good luck man, looking forward to seeing what comes of this, hopefully you document your progress, def be along for the ride if you do
peace
i know you said you've got your heart set on reversing the Cheese straight away and totally forgetting about using the Skunk male you have,
why not go both ways if you've got the space?, i've already noticed there arguments for both sides on this topic (feminsed route, regular route), at this stage neither of these can be ruled out obviously until you see the results, so if it was me this is what i'd do:
Regular Project A
Uk Cheese x Skunk #1, then move onto the F2 gen + further depending on results through each gen
Regular Project B
[Uk Cheese x Skunk #1] x [Uk Cheese] (depending on results along the line continue backcrossing to the Uk Cheese just out of curiosity)
Regular Project B(i)
[Uk Cheese x Skunk #1] x [Uk Cheese] 1IX, 2IX etc until desired result is reached
at the same time playing around and experimenting with the feminised project as well,
good luck man, looking forward to seeing what comes of this, hopefully you document your progress, def be along for the ride if you do
peace
Good thread if a little confusing so far rick dude. I await Chimera's post with great interest. As you know I plan to have a little fuck about with reversing some UK clones, but more as a way of getting some experimental femmed seeds for the community than for any greater breeding project.. I'm in it to find new clone onlys..
Hey Rick,
i know you said you've got your heart set on reversing the Cheese straight away and totally forgetting about using the Skunk male you have,
why not go both ways if you've got the space?, i've already noticed there arguments for both sides on this topic (feminsed route, regular route), at this stage neither of these can be ruled out obviously until you see the results, so if it was me this is what i'd do:
Regular Project A
Uk Cheese x Skunk #1, then move onto the F2 gen + further depending on results through each gen
Regular Project B
[Uk Cheese x Skunk #1] x [Uk Cheese] (depending on results along the line continue backcrossing to the Uk Cheese just out of curiosity)
Regular Project B(i)
[Uk Cheese x Skunk #1] x [Uk Cheese] 1IX, 2IX etc until desired result is reached
at the same time playing around and experimenting with the feminised project as well,
good luck man, looking forward to seeing what comes of this, hopefully you document your progress, def be along for the ride if you do
peace
thats a fair point Hazebro,,,,no reason why i cant flip the male to 12/12....its getting on my nerves just sat there next to my SSH x OGKA male doing nothing,,,,il put it in a cupord on its own this week,,,,,a friend of mine has a Cheese clone lined-up an ready
ok.....here is what im gona do over the next few weeks
Regular Backcross & Incross Project
[Uk Cheese x Skunk #1] x [Uk Cheese]......then incross to F2 or maybe F3!!.......
Fem F1 Project
Cheese S1 x Cheese S1
Reverced Backcross Project
Cheese S1 x Cheese
i love massive seeds,,,like the size of a small pea,,,,,i remember SSH in the black packs being like that
Hey englishrick what happens if you find mutant but has the quality your looking for will you keep it work on or would you scrap it?
their is a thread about f13 or something can find it was here just few Min's ago looks interesting had deform leaf patterns
their is a thread about f13 or something can find it was here just few Min's ago looks interesting had deform leaf patterns
when you say the seeds are at F13,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"F13" thats deep into "incrossing" man......no wonder its good stuff
....i bet the genes are gettin pretty homogeneous at F13, but i emagine its still throwing out big vareations in the seedline,,,,
when genes get "bottlenecked" like that,,,you gota expect a freak or 2,,,
spliting the line, an makin F1`s would bring back the vigor an stop mutants showing ...imo
....i bet the genes are gettin pretty homogeneous at F13, but i emagine its still throwing out big vareations in the seedline,,,,when genes get "bottlenecked" like that,,,you gota expect a freak or 2,,,
spliting the line, an makin F1`s would bring back the vigor an stop mutants showing ...imo
her is the link sorry http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=88785&highlight=f13 from 3dDream they are from DJ short i believe
hey i hope 3dDream does not mined
hey i hope 3dDream does not mined
I have bred several lines beyond 10 generations, focusing on resin quantity and quality the whole way. Breeding to the top 5% of females (out of hundreds) each generation by male pollen mixes. Honestly, it seems to have often gone sideways, breeding to the extreme to maintain the norm - these are complex traits. At the same time, I have definitely seen lines that breed true for these traits. Almost invariably, they were descendants/products of selfing schemes - hence my interest. I don't buy that inbreeding depression/problems with fitness is an inevitable outcome from a few generations of selfing. I have witnessed otherwise.
hay col
do you think chimera is gona come back an blow this outa the water??
do you think chimera is gona come back an blow this outa the water??
who you gona call?.....
GHOST-BUSTERS!,,,,,
GHOST-BUSTERS!,,,,,
or maybe
WEED-MASTERS-OF-THE-UNIVERSE
just call me HE-MAN,,,
WEED-MASTERS-OF-THE-UNIVERSE
just call me HE-MAN,,,
Ummm, no, that would be most unexpected.
Selfing sits quite comfortably at the round table of techniques in the breeding of outcrossing plants, and if that table had corners then selfing would likely be sitting at one of the heads of the table. There are cannabis lines in existence that breed true for these complex traits (so it seems to me that we are not talking about quantitative characters) and they have been bred via selfing for many generations. One that comes to mind is a Northern Lights strain that has been in my neighborhood since the dawn of indoor growing - and so it seems that it is also possible for cannabis to hold up fairly well under this breeding scheme. I don't know man, as I said, I intend to dabble regardless of what anybody says as I believe I have seen ample evidence in favor of this being a viable path. I'd advise to be critical of results and charge ahead with the understanding that we may resurface empty handed.
