Partners....

[Mr. Tony]

Now I know what the general consensus is for partners. I can crop it. I just have no connections. I know the kid with al t he connections. We had a serious talk about getting a house, over grow a bed room, mostly just to have a plethora of buds, bubble, and bho. But the opportunity arises with being able to make some change on the side....I'd never have to meet anyone. I'm going to college and I'll be able to support my self just fine, and never planned on doing this for more than fun thing on the side.


Basically 2 friends putting their resources together.


Advice?

 

[Big D]

Bad idea! I know first hand. Don't do it!

Hope this helps....D

 

[Milwaukee]

I wouldn't partner with anyone. Too many problems to anticipate. Best bet is to keep your grow house private and work with a few trusted friends if you have a surplus.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

IMO a partner in crime needs to not only know the business but you as well. And vice verse. Not your past, more like what you'd do in a pickle as well as honor your agreement. Whatever that may be. Somebody that has successfully pulled off grows in the past and anticipates what to expect is a must. Add this to your experience and delegate according to expertise.

You have the operation/business aspect that is arguably the easy part. Then there's personality considerations. How does this dude act when things get edgy? I had a few long time friends get greedy on me when we didn't work out details beforehand. With the wrong partner(s), things can change when a small hand full of seeds turns into a dope harvest!

It can work with the right partner chemistry though. I know one outdoor grower that offers half his harvest for providing the seeds/clones. He prefers to do ALL the work because he's the only cook in his "kitchen". An offer like that is almost too hard to pass up. If I'd never been through it with others I'd think it's a no brainer. I'm too fuckin old now and too many considerations. Hope I didn't talk ya out of it.

EDIT: Avoid anybody that has the urge to draw attention, either through loose lips or the typical "Now-I'm-a-dope-man" bs.

 

[magiccannabus]

Partners are bad ideas. I've done it before, and it worked one time, but every other time ended in major backstabbing. One even tried to narc me out while I was babysitting his plants because he thought I was fucking his wife. Just about everyone except me was fucking her, but I got the blame.

If you have no connections, hit up some venues, find some people you like and can smoke with, and the market comes naturally, and it's a better, safer market. The commercial game involves strip clubs, gangs, and usually other drugs at some point, why contribute to that culture?

Your best bet is to grow something great for yourself, and tell anyone you sell it to that it is from some hookup you found, and don't share with anyone anything more than that. It's not their business, they don't need to know.

My family, my closest friends, none of them know I grow. As far as the few people who saw my old grow, none of them are left in my life anymore except one, and I rarely see this person. Loose lips sink ships, but so do big loads of greed. Most people will rat you out as soon as backed into a corner. The cops are very good at making people spill the details, so why let anyone know anything that they can be coerced into telling?

 

[CoughingWidow]

No partners. Never grow in a house\apartment where people reside and hope they will not to find out about your grow. With that said, you should only grow alone or with your significant other's approval. If you're still persistant on growing for a profit sell one large amount each harvest, but make sure this person doesn't know you grow it (bad things can happen).

Advice would have been to find your own place to grow it. Never have told this guy you know how to grow it or that you are thinking about growing. Sell in one large quanity each harvest.

Partners can and most often point fingers and end up talking when things go bad. If it was only you, you could get a good lawyer and keep your mouth shut the entire time.

 

[SweetNightmare]

What happens when the grow is over... you've invested all your time and half the cash but he wants the whole crop to himself? Even my med friends have asked to grow 1 plant for them if they paid for the clone... simple answer is no. It's not worth the risk/time/effort/money especially when they could be doing it themselves... lazy people who think they deserve something for doing nothing...

 

[rootfingers]

i dunno, I've had a partner for quite some time and things work out good between us. He plays the straight man and I'm the color guy. You just gotta find a partner who works for you, some will work against you. Take time in making this decision as its a big one.

 

[ZEROorDIE]

unlike most i have mixed feelings a bout partners.

first off. i have had a partner for everygrow. AND. i have been burned in one way or another by every partner.

one showed off the grow too much and it was ripped
another left the grow room open when people were coming over and i had to shut it down
not to mention all the people ive had to teach the ins and out and have almost ruined crops due to lack of care or knowledge

But on the good side
-i could never have afforded to grow on my own
-i have someone to car for my buds when i cant be around(allows me to go on vaca)
-can tear down super fast if theres ever a breach in security
-i have built amazing friendships through this

i would say consider every aspect. how well you know the person, greed, bragger etc. you have to know that you can trust this person with your life and freedom.

all the people i have grown with are family or as close to and i would forgive any grievence short or narcing as it really is only a plant. just make sure they are also in it for the right reason,

Love of the herb.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

What happens when the grow is over... you've invested all your time and half the cash but he wants the whole crop to himself? Even my med friends have asked to grow 1 plant for them if they paid for the clone... simple answer is no. It's not worth the risk/time/effort/money especially when they could be doing it themselves... lazy people who think they deserve something for doing nothing...

exactly, i hate it when my med friends say "hey if i buy a clone can i put it in your garden"

NO??

do you pay for electricity?
NO
do you pay for the water and nutes?
NO
are you here every night to balance the PH and re-water

GO FUCK YOSELF!!

Lol..

 

[Yes4Prop215]

i dunno, I've had a partner for quite some time and things work out good between us. He plays the straight man and I'm the color guy. You just gotta find a partner who works for you, some will work against you. Take time in making this decision as its a big one.

i believe that you cant just grab a partner out of thin air for the MMJ business.

you need someone who you have been a partner in crime with for a long time, so you know how he acts and carries himself under pressure and in certain situations.

my partner i have known since we were 13, we both grew up getting into trouble together, we both went from petty little dime dealers to now handling our own little grow op. we have been arrested together a few times and everytime both of us held our ground. even though my partner seems like an ideal candidate we still have issues and arguments over methods/money/division of work. but in the end i think both of us care more about our results and our money than our personal opinions of eachother.

just be flexible, and try to let your partner know he should be the same. if you guys start arguing over pettty things before a seed is even planted, scrap the grow.

sometimes when my partner runs his mouth off, i just have to sit there and listen. of course i could lose my temper and yell back at him, which is what i want to do sometimes, but i just calm down and think.."maybe he has a point, i will look into his assertions, i will research them on ICMAG and then if he is wrong, i will make a solid argument supported by ICmag comments, if he is right i will abide by his methods"

Neither you nor your partner will be right 100% of the time, its all about compromise, flexibility, and not creating silent grudges, everything needs to be aired out and in the open.

 

[FirstTracks]

If he only has the connections, keep him out of the grow.
He shouldn't be a partner per say, just the person you hand off to when everything is ready to go.
Otherwise you might end up having to share decisions and consult him/be consulted by him on every little thing, regardless of how little he knows.

The person is only really the partner if they're splitting everything with you 50/50 IMHO.

Why call someone your partner (and give them that power) if you put in a ll the money, grow knowledge, genetic materials, location, growing risk, etc...and all they put in is moving the crop for you? End of it is that they usually expect a 50/50 split when they only really deserve maybe 10% of the net.

It has already been mentioned, but...How well does he deal with pressure/stress? Is he edgy and gets paranoid easily? Are you going to have to drastically change plans partway through because this 'partner' doesn't know how to deal with sittin on a grow?
How well does he keep his mouth shut? Are you going to have to hear from someone else about your grow after he offers clones/asks if he can get clones?

IMHO, and IME, its much better to work alone. If your stuffs slightly above average, it will move. Alone allows you to make all the decisions and not have to check every one with your partner. Things are more efficient alone unless you're going large scale, which IMHO, doesn't include anything under 10elbs/month processed.

just know that once you're in it, you're really in it. If you tell him he's a partner, even if he's not doing shit with the grow besides watching it while you're gone every once in a while or watering it on the odd occasion, he's going to expect the predetermined cut of the proceeds and suddenly you're not making anything because you have to split your personal and split the proceeds.

 

[Mr. Tony]

I could very easily grow the amount I'd like by myself, easily. Though I couldn't even begin to think about who i could call and say hey i got a bow fro ya. I'm not trying to get anything near want you would consider "commercial"


The potential partner is a good guy. Works hard, smart. I've seen him under pressure, he works well.

I consider myself a cannabis connoisseur but this guy is a whole new level.

What were really trying to do is never buy again, make our own crosses, have tons of personal smoke, lots of bubble and bho. Then get rid out of a few bows here and there for some change on the side.

He's been there in the past for me, driven out a sack 120 miles each way for me so I'd have some smoke.

When I had my grow going and my jack cleaner was like 4 weeks into flower, my home made carbon filter ( never fucking with home made again) was not working well enough. he drove over like 2 hours after i called them and took the plants away from me.

I though I'd be left with nothing but a couple months later, he called said he had something for me, a 20 gram nug, all i had to do was go get it.

 

[Spicoli]

sounds like a good dude if hes willing to do all that...do it...If it goes good,great your both stoked and its good.. goes bad "lesson learned the hard way"... just my 2 cents....hope everything goes good.

Peace

 

[Mr. Tony]

shit he gave me the jack's beans to grow.


pretty sure we'll split cost of the equipment.

I'll have a good job so I'm trying to get a 3 bedroom house and try to pay it off ( not all with bud of course) so no land lords or inspections or anything.

we decided to eventually do this together and just us because no one else can bring something to the table that we could not.

 

[opt1c]

only partnerships that work in this game are one sided ones; it's also a good way to loose a friend while you're at it... blow it up yourself and let him move all the work... work out a base price where u split anything on top... that'll give him incentive to make it work... he doesn't have to be part of your grow... just your outlet.. otherwise expect to do 100% of the work for 50% of the return and that's if things go well

 

[DonDankles]

Don't get a partner. Want someone to work for you? Different Story...

Finance it yourself, and you will reward just yourself..

No stinkin partners to take your booty =D

 

[Miss Blunted]

This can all go badly...just saying from my experience.

 

[Mr. Tony]

I don't think you guys understand. I can do the growing parts but I have no idea how to go about trying to find someone wanting bows when ever.

 

[Teeg420]

but I have no idea how to go about trying to find someone wanting bows when ever.

Try the club. They're always willing to take bows of good quality.