Headband

[FOE20]

I always back up my Mothers in multiple places,when possible.

why?.....aint you the man?....isnt everyone waiting to get these cuts that you Hold so dearly?....os so wait....You pass your Cuts to others to Hold?....but your sure theres never been a mix up to right?....or a mishap and bad run?..cause the world is perfect right?....oh wait thats your world....well now how bout some reality...

In that box were quite a few interesting clones,including C99 (My Heavy-Duty Pineapple Mom) KK's Strawberry Cough Clone,My Killer Queen Clone,and the ECSD Clone-among other things.
In the years following,I read,with mucho mirth,as the clones in the box were sometimes attributed (by other growers,as they spread) to Cali Origins.
Even,much to my amusement,the Original Suur Diesel Clone,being discussed as a "west coast sour d" cut.
Hence,the "ECSD" tag that I labeled the Sour D Clone with,(for the first time,in High Times) that's since become Indusrty Standard for the name.
....Once a plant is in Cali,the native pot growers tend to smoke too much and forget where their genetics originated.
No big deal,but let's not get it permanently twisted,is all.

Fez....your a Idiot....you didnt make shit and only was one of the blokes to Rape these strains for Commercial use...your the worst thing to happen to Canna in a long fukin time...so pat yourself on the back all day...cause your only inflating your over blown full or hot-air ego...
go ahead and ride off into the sunset on your imaginary Elites...
Shanti taught you about keeping moms?....wtf are you talkin about...thats been done since the beginning and Shanti wasn't the Only one involved numbnuts...
Show some pics and who gives a fuk about the Stories...cause its all Hyp-BS that you and a few money minded leptons need to feel like your a part of something you were never a part of....
My?....My?.....I renamed?.....how fukin lame does it get with you....
are you Chemdawg?.....cause he was the man...are you Sam?...cause he was the man...Shanti is and always will be the Man....all your doing is blurring the standards they set....nice job....and congratz fort whatever that means to you....
Matter of fact Im gabna ask Shanti exactly what he thinks of your work and all he's taught you......Im curious what he'll have to say as we've worked with him to or asked for his input quite a few toimes with great intelligent and coherent responses..Unlike your own....He uses our pic of G13/WW for his advert......
yup your a dog,....mans best friend...

All talk n no walk....same ole same ole......
So oh holder of all that is Elite....show Us your Ladies fool....or STFU....
FOE20

 

[superjoint]

what he dont like it and your all pissy about it? your fucking lame bro... get off the icmag once in a while.....its a shit strain, im saying so .if you want it thats your thing..

 

[FOE20]

who you talkin at Superdoob?......Im not on here enough to give a shit thats for sure...Im talkin plants and the rest is talkin "breeders".....
I wana see and know the differences between these so called phenos....so is this not possible with these folk?......and if not...why....cause isnt this a Canna forum?....maybe just a breeder site then....so yea...my bad for being here....gata love that logic...
FOE20

 

[mistaman]

The results from the hybrids were close enough-like I said,you guys are chasing an inferior clone,per se. Headband's all right, but only "elite" to a few that happen to be looking for article fodder for their lefty rags to dwell on.
Sour Diesel kicks its ass,so does Chemdog D,and #4,as well. So does SFV OG Kush,and Cinderella 99. I could go on,but why bother?
I see it like this: Dogs chase cars because they like to,there's no logic in it. Some people chase certain "elite" (ish) clones around....on the uneducated say-so of others. There's no logic in that,either,but you can't reason with them,any more than you can,with the dog.
I've said what I had to say.
....I didn't keep the "Headband" around after I was done with it,so take that for what you think it's worth.


Salut!

Yeah this looks like a more yield oriented strain as with most of the Hell's Angels stuff.

Keep in mind there are a few different versions of headband. There is a newer 707 HB. i think it's made with OGK and SD and is a lot nicer

Rez is right in a way you shouldn't be chasing cuts out of your reach. Try to focus on what your local community has to offer. I am amazed with some of the cuts my local community has to offer. A lot of famous cuts but also a lot of special lesser known cuts that I wouldn't trade for anything. Sure maybe where I live could be thought of as a semi bud "hotspot" but it is nothing like SFV or Mendo. I think you might be surprised what your local community has to offer.

 

[REZDOG]

why?.....aint you the man?....isnt everyone waiting to get these cuts that you Hold so dearly?....os so wait....You pass your Cuts to others to Hold?....but your sure theres never been a mix up to right?....or a mishap and bad run?..cause the world is perfect right?....oh wait thats your world....well now how bout some reality...



Fez....your a Idiot....you didnt make shit and only was one of the blokes to Rape these strains for Commercial use...your the worst thing to happen to Canna in a long fukin time...so pat yourself on the back all day...cause your only inflating your over blown full or hot-air ego...
go ahead and ride off into the sunset on your imaginary Elites...
Shanti taught you about keeping moms?....wtf are you talkin about...thats been done since the beginning and Shanti wasn't the Only one involved numbnuts...
Show some pics and who gives a fuk about the Stories...cause its all Hyp-BS that you and a few money minded leptons need to feel like your a part of something you were never a part of....
My?....My?.....I renamed?.....how fukin lame does it get with you....
are you Chemdawg?.....cause he was the man...are you Sam?...cause he was the man...Shanti is and always will be the Man....all your doing is blurring the standards they set....nice job....and congratz fort whatever that means to you....
Matter of fact Im gabna ask Shanti exactly what he thinks of your work and all he's taught you......Im curious what he'll have to say as we've worked with him to or asked for his input quite a few toimes with great intelligent and coherent responses..Unlike your own....He uses our pic of G13/WW for his advert......
yup your a dog,....mans best friend...

All talk n no walk....same ole same ole......
So oh holder of all that is Elite....show Us your Ladies fool....or STFU....
FOE20

Hmmmm....
I've been reading Shanti for years,and learned from it.
Sue me,if that's an issue.
Am I "Chemdog"?
No,but he simply grew some bagseeds and selected some real winners-what of it?
As to "My my my mothers" as you call it-I own those Clone Mothers well-selected,& for years-now-unavailable Mothers,and they've been grown with success by many and successfully bred with,as well.
Hence the "I,me and mine".
My Clone Moms have killer reps,and it's wholly justified.
As to the,"All talk and no walk" accusation,you''re clearly talking out of your ass.
Lessee....
Sour Diesel IBL,Strawberry Diesel,The Chemdog releases,Double Strawberry Diesel,William's Wonder,Sour Queen I and Sour Queen II,SuperSilverSourDieselhaze,The Kush Lines,etc. etc. etc.


Cheers!

 

[plantbeaners]

and it Herms allot?....no it doesnt ...even under decent amounts of Stress...no it does not Herm...who are you btw, and do you have any pics?....
sorry but this is not correct......please just make your own choices and conclusions...not everyone knows how to grow these "Well"... IMO....HBand is slow...and takes a longer flower window...ChemD is the same but theres 2 phenos in this variety to start with a very Sat and a very Indica.....so guess it matters which one you have?...
I have a Sat dom pheno in Form but with Indica Bud structure that takes 10+ wks...



thnx for talkin on that SoCal....I didnt know the 707v was a deeper hyb...

I hold the Headband (Loompas cut) and its as these gentz say...aka: DayWreckerDiesel..Diesel#1, and or UnderDawg...

you guys want pics?...Ive got a grip of um...or a few anyway off hand...not my best grows of it but I'll post better soon...But yes its a Killer TOP Shelf with very very Heady effects....
FOE20

ill try and dig up some flowering shots so you can see how to do headband right, My headband is a bagseed out of some headband(morethenlikelysdxkush), just like yours but your dumb enough to think you have the actual headband cut aka daywrecker aka disel #1

 

[ElGato]

the headband cut that Foe and i are holding is NOT a circulated cut



it's not the real headband but it is as good or better than any "elite" cut out there
it's not the 707...and it's not the shroomy420 cut of Original Diesel that rez used in his bogus kush crosses

this cut is straight FIRE....at least as potent as chemdog D, and more potent than the SFV OGK

you guys dont know what the fuck youre talking about....rez included



mj

 

[1969]

The thing is, nobody can tell another person what is and what isn't good when it comes down to the vast majority of the so called "elites". This stuff effects so many people in so many different ways, period.

I kicked the Sour D from my garden because I didn't like it, the smell and taste were awesome but the high too short lived and blah, for me. Other people who I've given the SD bud to disagree with me on that, some said it was the best they ever smoked.

I don't understand dudes on pedestals spout their word as law. Selling seeds or not.

 

[REZDOG]

the headband cut that Foe and i are holding is NOT a circulated cut



it's not the real headband but it is as good or better than any "elite" cut out there
it's not the 707...and it's not the shroomy420 cut of Original Diesel that rez used in his bogus kush crosses

this cut is straight FIRE....at least as potent as chemdog D, and more potent than the SFV OGK

you guys dont know what the fuck youre talking about....rez included
mj

Wow,spoken with such authority.
You must be right.
Nah.
Let me help you in your search for clarity,son.
You said,(of your cut) "It's not the real Headband."
And with that,kindly stfu,you have absolutely NO place to be posting on this subject.
I'll have forgotten more about cannabis before breakfast tomorrow,than you'll ever know. :smile:



Cheers!

 

[ElGato]

i agree kephra, highs tastes and all that are indeed subjective

the issure here is that peeps are mistaking this particular cut (the cut FOE and i are speaking of)for something else they have tried and did or didnt like

thats what i am saying lol



mj

 

[ElGato]

Wow,spoken with such authority.
You must be right.
Nah.
Let me help you in your search for clarity,son.
You said,(of your cut) "It's not the real Headband."
And with that,kindly stfu,you have absolutely NO place to be posting on this subject.
I'll have forgotten more about cannabis before breakfast tomorrow,than you'll ever know. :smile:



Cheers!

lmao at you rez

youre a pollen chucker bro, dont get confused about your place in the cannabis world

me..i'm just a grower and smoker, and dont claim to be anything more



mj

 

[REZDOG]

Yeah?
Laugh all you like.
Name a "pollen chucker" that took a single,exceptional,"elite" clone and created a stable,dominant seed line from it. Name one.
If you're saying that Serious' Bubblegum,the Grimms C99,Sour Diesel IBL,& many more that I can name,were all the result of "pollen chucking",then you need to have your fucking head examined.
I haven't been "chucking pollen" for the past two-plus years working on the Chemdog IBL Project,I can assure you,it's all about the details.
And that's why,John,this-here "pollen chucking" (your words,not mine) Reservoir Seeds Comapny will introduce a Chemdog seedline that actually produces "chemdog" buds,and breeds with minimal variations.
I know my shit,in this field,and to have people (like you) constantly second-guessing me is amusing now,though it used to irritate me,at the beginning,and I felt I always had to make people "understand". I know now,some will never get it,and that's their problem,not anyone else's.
Those days are over,and in case you hadn't perused my forum,Reservoir has an amazing,proven track record.
I practice breeding transparency equal to or greater than any working breeder-and have,for years.
That said,time for some coffee and a pastry.

 

[ElGato]

glad to hear it man

i got no beef with you rez but if you tell me i dont no shit about cannabis ..well i'ma tell you youre a pollen chucker...i guess we can both be wrong?..i know you are lol

the cut that Foe and i are holding is an old OGkush to be sure...i know it's not the real headband. most likely it's much much better than that
i've got the ghost, the poison OG and have tried several others including the SFV, this one trumps em bro

i've had the chem d cut for over 2 yrs now and this so called headband is at least as potent

shit is straight fire is all i'm tryin to say....and because it's got the name headband y'all think it's something that it is not


mj

 

[Brastaman]

Postscript:
As to Cali being the "source" for "elite" genetics,I'd argue that,to a good degree.
Maybe twenty years ago,but not now,by a long-shot.
The higher number of the most sought-after clones IN Cali....originated elsewhere.
Very elsewhere.
I know this because,for instance,years ago, a large box of genetics, before-then unavailable in Cali, were collected,& aimed in that direction.
These genetics went to some high-powered growers,Kahuna-grade,that were met in A'Damm by friends and myself,and told us about the sorry overall state of genetics in NorCal at the time. We decided to fix that "problem",and we did,in spades.
In that box were quite a few interesting clones,including C99 (My Heavy-Duty Pineapple Mom) KK's Strawberry Cough Clone,My Killer Queen Clone,and the ECSD Clone-among other things.
In the years following,I read,with mucho mirth,as the clones in the box were sometimes attributed (by other growers,as they spread) to Cali Origins.
Even,much to my amusement,the Original Suur Diesel Clone,being discussed as a "west coast sour d" cut.
Hence,the "ECSD" tag that I labeled the Sour D Clone with,(for the first time,in High Times) that's since become Indusrty Standard for the name.
....Once a plant is in Cali,the native pot growers tend to smoke too much and forget where their genetics originated.
No big deal,but let's not get it permanently twisted,is all.


Cheers!

c'mon bro. you're saying right here that you had a hand in "saving" Northern California from a genetic downward spiral. really? is that why people show you so much respect !?!?

By the way you are as guilty as anybody as far as chasing the "elites".....i mean, you chase them straight to the bank....

 

[Crush]

the headband cut that Foe and i are holding is NOT a circulated cut

it's not the real headband but it is as good or better than any "elite" cut out there
it's not the 707...and it's not the shroomy420 cut of Original Diesel that rez used in his bogus kush crosses

this cut is straight FIRE....at least as potent as chemdog D, and more potent than the SFV OGK

you guys dont know what the fuck youre talking about....rez included

mj

How could it be that user after user is saying that this stuff is top shelf and the best there is.

The medical dispensaries in California are filled with strains from Trainwreck, C99, all the hazes, and major strains.

Here's what someone had to say on another forum who REALLY uses the California medical dispensaries:

I've had headband before. It was always the top most expensive herb at the club I used to go to. $65 1/8 $125 a 1/4 but its some good shit, real head high couchlock stone and a very distict smell. There also a starin called SFV Kush that is pretty similar to headband and some damn good smoke.

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Also, how is it that an EVENT is named after Headband and that there are things like this:

So how could all these people be coming fwd and saying that this is good Dank and the dispensary be charting top shelf prices??????

 

[Mountain]

I'd like to see Joeshmoe get a cut or sample of Headband cause only person I know I'd pay attention to regarding their opinion.

 

[superjoint]

Eh Gato do you ever Read some of the stupid shit you type? Cry Baby.. Did someone touch a nerve? dont get all butthurt cuz your strain blows and someone dont like it..... thanks for the feedback to dickhead

 

[ElGato]

Eh Gato do you ever Read some of the stupid shit you type? Cry Baby.. Did someone touch a nerve? dont get all butthurt cuz your strain blows and someone dont like it..... thanks for the feedback to dickhead

lmao....who's a crybaby? lol

none of this bullshit phases me in the least ...this the net son



mj

 

[Oledad420]

How could it be that user after user is saying that this stuff is top shelf and the best there is.

The medical dispensaries in California are filled with strains from Trainwreck, C99, all the hazes, and major strains.

Here's what someone had to say on another forum who REALLY uses the California medical dispensaries:

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Also, how is it that an EVENT is named after Headband and that there are things like this:

So how could all these people be coming fwd and saying that this is good Dank and the dispensary be charting top shelf prices??????

because what you are calling "the headband", which is really 707headband, which has NOTHING to do with the REAL headband cut and what Rez and a few other are talking about is the real deal headband that was around before the sour diesel and the OG kush. What you guys are talking about is a sour dieselxog kush cross, that some shithead in Cali decided to name 707headband to try and score off of the real headband cut's rep. Thats why we have 300+ different og kush cuts and all the other BS that comes from SoCal, someone hears that this or that is good and then out of nowhere comes this and that cut, all which are better then the last if you ask the person trying to hype it.

 

[ElGato]

because what you are calling "the headband", which is really 707headband, which has NOTHING to do with the REAL headband cut and what Rez and a few other are talking about is the real deal headband that was around before the sour diesel and the OG kush. What you guys are talking about is a sour dieselxog kush cross, that some shithead in Cali decided to name 707headband to try and score off of the real headband cut's rep. Thats why we have 300+ different og kush cuts and all the other BS that comes from SoCal, someone hears that this or that is good and then out of nowhere comes this and that cut, all which are better then the last if you ask the person trying to hype it.

exactly...lol

good post man