Great Inline Fans

[TheShroomDude]

Thanks. That is what I came up with after finding my scraps. That is what I needed to hear about the filter. I figured it would reduce it, but was not sure how much. The 150 will work out better anyways with the 6" duct, was just trying to save a lil. Ok that is 1 more piece of the puzzle out of the way. Just about all done.

 

[FreezerBoy]

TD-100x wired:

How are we supposed to feel "manly" doing this? Tim the Tool Man Taylor could pull that off. Take it back and make it more complicated so we can pretend we did something difficult.

 

[NanoScroger]

need a little help on my setup.

4x4x8 closet, 600w. thinking of upgrading to 1k or 2x600.

current setup.
can max 10" 1050 cfm
Can filter 100
6" cool tube
6" duct, exits through ceiling vents outside the house.
passive intake... no real intake at this time aside from leaving the door open.

My problem is the closet is staying warmer than i would like. with the hps turned off, and just a little box with a 70hps and couple cfls in the closet, along with a halogen lamp [regular household lamp} my closet is staying about 81-83 degrees.

this concerns me, the hps isnt even fired up yet and already.. its too warm. the house is only about 74 degrees.

any ideas on how i can get more fresh air coming into this closet?
even with my current setup and the closet door open, temps only drop a degree or two.

or is my problem trying to push that can max 10" fan through 6" duct? i also have it turned way down via a speed controller. its way too loud on max. the ducts are tight and full of air, but no idea what my cfm is with a fan controller on low.

fan sits on top of carbon filter, blows through cool tube and out the vent.
i would like the filter to be mounted up high but the can 100 is way to big to hang.

i want to go to a td150 fan, and can 66 filter.

is this enough fan for my single fan setup and cooling needs of 600-1k of lighting, while pulling through a filter.



only fear is i will get the td150 and can 66 and it wont be enough, also the hydro store i went too told me i couldnt use a can66 with a td150 because the cfm rating on the FILTER was higher than the cfm of the fan!!??

 

[onweed]

Where is the best place to buy one?

Anyone using a variac with one of these?

 

[blakhash]

no one will give a Sones rating on the s & f fans.

 

[MoleMcHenry]

Thank you Cannabean!

Thank you Cannabean!

alright, time to bump this thread with some pics.

wiring your S&P fan:

None of the S&P fans come pre-wired. I assume this is because they make HVAC intended equipment and figure they will be hardwired into the building or connected to a thermostat/speed controller.

Regardless, its easy to wire and I prefer it this way because it allows you to choose from 2 speeds without the added purchase of a speed controller.

The necessary cable is any 120v grounded cable. I buy the $10, 8ft 120v 'power tool repair cables' from home depot to wire the s&p's but chopping and stripping one end of an extension cable will work as well.


Once you have clean wires its time to unscrew the motor panel cover. You'll see the wiring adapter in white.


The lettering below the adapter reads N/LA/LB. Connect white(common)-N(left). For hi-speed connect the black(120 VAC 60hz)-LA(middle). For low speed(as shown) connect the black (120 VAC 60 hz)-LB(right).


Secure wires in place with small flathead screwdriver (ph meter calibration screwdrivers as well as fingernail clippers with that extra dealy to get the dirt out from under your nails will suffice)

Place the wiring adapter into the plastic pins to secure it in place and reapply the motor housing cover.

TD-100x wired:

I just wired my S and P TD-150 with your instructions, and it was easy as pie. I bought the tool repair kit at HD with no problems (except finding it!).

I tested it with my speedster and it works like a charm.

Your quick tutorial was perfect!

 

[FreezerBoy]

Note that the plastic models are just that, plastic. There's nothing to ground. A two wire cord is all you need.

Note that the fan does NOT come with a Doosmotchie™ to secure the cord to the fan housing. I made my own with a plumbing barb and a plastic nut from electrical. The grommet is simply a spacer. I ground out the structure indicated by the arrow to make room for a knot in the cord.

Petemoss later came up with what I'd wanted at Home Depot. Ticked me off somewhat because that's where I got my fab parts after no one there seemed to grasp what I was talking about. Pete tells me the actual term for a doosmotchie is a "strain relief insulator."



Can't report on functioning sound levels yet, I'm still waiting on carbon for my filter. Out of the box, the TD 100x, at full speed (135 cfm), is about half as loud as my 4" Elicent (145 cfm)

 

[ezgo1]

There is some S&P fans on ebay now at a good price.

 

[FreezerBoy]

First functioning sound report.

hmmmm ... stealth be gone. Not in the panic inducing manner of the inline but, gone.

Unsilenced, the S&P is much quieter than the Elicent with quadruple silencing. It's much quieter than my old axial as well but, the sound doesn't "belong" in the garage. Certainly not to the freezer.

I was hoping to avoid anything outside the cab but, if I'm going to hide in plain sight, I'll need some help. Maybe a radio, maybe ext insulated duct as a silencer, maybe hook up the axial underneath the freezer to add the "right" sound ....

While it's not perfect out of the box, I can work with this. Added bonus, I can use a grown up scrubber now (which I really needed) Even after one of my 8Mile went male and got pulled, the remaining plant is a stinker.

 

[strydr]

Freezer,
Did you try the fan on the slower setting? I have the S&P100, and wired it for the slower setting- with a DIY carbon scrubber, it's pretty quiet. Don't have a Db meter, but I can barely hear it. Granted, many loud concerts, and other ear-destroying things may bias my opinion

 

[FreezerBoy]

Stryder, thanks for the clue but, that's one of the reasons I bought the S&P. It's wired to the lower (brown wire) setting. It's not noise level but noise appropriateness. A lion roars at the zoo, you don't look, the sound belongs there. Lion roars in the garage, you look, the sound doesn't belong and wakes up 5 million years of survival instincts.

Second functioning sound report.

Opened garage door and found a neighbor waving back. Had a neighborfest in the driveway and NO PANIC! The Elicent could be heard over kids, birds, trucks, airplanes. The S&P can barely be heard at the garage door in the dead of night. In the day, forget it.

Still need to mask remaining noise for "hide in plain sight" operation but, the heart attack waiting to happen feeling is gone. Woo Hoo!

 

[growMEDS]

Great thread!

I got an S&P TD100x on it's way.

 

[growMEDS]

I have a cable like this...

The thicker metal is the positive? Or does it matter?

Please help! Thanks!

 

[FreezerBoy]

The small prong is positive or hot; It's power in. The large prong is negative or com (common):That's power out. You never want the bottleneck on the exit. It's OK to restrict power in but, you want the exit wide open at all times.

 

[growMEDS]

The small prong is positive or hot; It's power in. The large prong is negative or com (common):That's power out. You never want the bottleneck on the exit. It's OK to restrict power in but, you want the exit wide open at all times.

Thanks so much man. I would have thought the opposite.

 

[HellaFella420]

S&P make GREAT fans, I remember reading about those yeaaaars ago in a MAXIMUM YEILDS, way before i ever grew the 'erb, only read about it! lol

 

[igrowwitmatches]

Would the smallest s&p vent a 250 watt hps and a 2x2x4 space ?

 

[FreezerBoy]

That would be a definite maybe. My cab is 22x29x54 inches with a 250 CMH (a bit cooler than an HPS) The TD100x does me well in the winter (I grow in the garage) but, summer - not so much, as temps climb into the 80's-100's. What's the ambient temp of your surrounding area?

 

[habeeb]

ostberg

 

[Cozy Amnesia]

Another satisfied S&P customer reporting! I have the TD-125 hooked up to a muffler. Its hooked up to the slower setting of 149cfm, though I can crank it up to 197 if need be.

I've owned it now for about 6 months and its holding up like a champ. lol, I made a thread just like this a while back but it didn't get as much attention: http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=112231