**((Thundurkel's 252w Fluoro Frenzy))**

[GreenIsGood]

Hey there thundurkel cant wait to see how it goes. Ill stick around and watch because i am thinking of switching to flora nova also, AN is just emptying my pockets. Good luck with the grow. O yea coal train huh the name just makes it sound intimidating.
GIG

 

[Thundurkel]

Ok folks I finally have some pics to share with this new system of uplaiding the had me all confused but I got it!

here is week 2 of the Fox Farm vs Flora Nova test and the Fox Farm gals are the 2 on the right numbers 3 and 4 with Flora Nova being 1 and 2 of course

Here is some Cole Train aka SSHxTW in week 5

macro of Cole Train in week 7

and this is Querkle in week 6 as well...

All the bud's above have been harvested and no I didn't weigh them cuz I didn't really care what I was getting on them....
I have more pics to take of how things look right now and will post them later and thanks for sticking around you crazy growers and growettes... notice I keep saying growette hoping some cool ass chick pops out of nowhere hahaha

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Ok folks I finally have some pics to share with this new system of uplaiding the had me all confused but I got it!

here is week 2 of the Fox Farm vs Flora Nova test and the Fox Farm gals are the 2 on the right numbers 3 and 4 with Flora Nova being 1 and 2 of course

Damn Thunder! Those are some healthy looking girls
From the photo it looks like one of the AN's might be bigger than all the other's.

What's your take so far? Are the differences just clone differences are do you see a significant difference between the nutes yet?

 

[Thundurkel]

Hey HydroSoil I'm confused buddy.. do you think I'm using Advanced Nutrients?? cuz I'm not, I have Fox Farm's, Grow Big,Big Bloom,and Tiger Bloom and then I also have General Hydroponics, Flora Nova Grow, Flora Nova Bloom, GH Vegan Compost Tea,and Floralicious Plus
and my test is Fox Farms trio vs Flora Nova w Floralicious and I add Superthrive to both sides..

Just wanted to clear that up since I've seen you say AN a few times

 

[bagseed77]

i just graduated from mg to fox farms and i like them so far, looking good there thun

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Hey HydroSoil I'm confused buddy.. do you think I'm using Advanced Nutrients?? cuz I'm not, I have Fox Farm's, Grow Big,Big Bloom,and Tiger Bloom and then I also have General Hydroponics, Flora Nova Grow, Flora Nova Bloom, GH Vegan Compost Tea,and Floralicious Plus
and my test is Fox Farms trio vs Flora Nova w Floralicious and I add Superthrive to both sides..

Just wanted to clear that up since I've seen you say AN a few times

Yeah... I blew that one
Can ya tell I'm more familiar with GH nutes? LOL


I'd like to see the test repeated, but with using just 8ml/gal of Floranova bloom during bloom. None of the other additives. I'm a firm believer in the Lucas formula and the FNB is just that but with professional additives already added.

Can't wait to see the results of this go around though.
Those plants look super super healthy. I'm just digging your setup!

 

[Thundurkel]

Ok so I got some photos to show!

Grand Master Kush week 3

Grand Master Kush in week 3 of flowering starting to put on some crystals and is smelling kinda like Bubba mixed with something else..

Some Maui Wowi x Tooty Fruity at 5 1/2 weeks

Here's inside my flower cab on 2/04/09


I'm going to put up some more macro's in a little while so stick around and to those who laughed at me saying I wouldn't get what DrBud say's I would

 

[White]

Sexy lookin buds man. Keep it up.

Peace,
White

 

[roughnice420]

Thundurkel, props man! Your grow looks great, looks like you've got things dialed in.

My grow is pretty similar to yours, I used the foxfarm nutes in my last two grows, but now that I've tried growing organiclly, I'll never go back. My organically fed plants BLEW away my foxfarm nuted ones last time around, so this time I'm going straight organic with all of them...the best part is (besides being sooo much easier), it costs NOTHING!

I think you should give it a try on 1 or 2 of your plants, and tell me what you find, I'm interested to know! It's really simple, I mix a little of my pee into a gallon of water whenever it looks like they want some nitrogen (pretty much just sub in urine for whenever you would have used the grow big), and then once they're a couple weeks into flower, top feed them with some well composted manure (I use turkey manure). No mixing nutes, nothing. Just water them and watch them swell!

peace brotha and keep up the good work!

 

[Thundurkel]

Thundurkel, props man! Your grow looks great, looks like you've got things dialed in.

My grow is pretty similar to yours, I used the foxfarm nutes in my last two grows, but now that I've tried growing organiclly, I'll never go back. My organically fed plants BLEW away my foxfarm nuted ones last time around, so this time I'm going straight organic with all of them...the best part is (besides being sooo much easier), it costs NOTHING!

I think you should give it a try on 1 or 2 of your plants, and tell me what you find, I'm interested to know! It's really simple, I mix a little of my pee into a gallon of water whenever it looks like they want some nitrogen (pretty much just sub in urine for whenever you would have used the grow big), and then once they're a couple weeks into flower, top feed them with some well composted manure (I use turkey manure). No mixing nutes, nothing. Just water them and watch them swell!

peace brotha and keep up the good work!

Thanks bro I'm getting there... So organics did it for you huh? I'm going organic asap but will be using compost tea's for feeding and I think you should too! here's the mixes I am going to use, it's cost's a little bit to get the supplies but it goes way longer than bottled nutes and it's alive!!!!!

This is the recipe's I will be using asap!

Mother Mary's Tea Recipes

*The measurments below are for a one gallon tea bubbler.When making teas in smaller containers,simply adjust the recipe or dilute the final tea with water.

*In these recipes,brew the tea with an airstone in a one gallon container for 24 to 48 hours.When you're done brewing,strain it through a nylon stocking (for topical/sprayer applications) or a standard strainer (for normal watering applications) and cut it 50/50 using dechlorinated water.

*Fungi-dominant tea compost should be mixed together and kept very wet for three to seven days prior to brewing.Store it high in a room,near the ceiling and in the dark.The microlife and fungi populations will really bloom if you place a heating pad-set to low-below the container (shoot for 68-75 degrees fahrenheit;20-24 degrees celsius).After three days,it will be visibly booming with fungus (what I call "Santa's Beard").Put this in your tea brewer and bubble it (in place of regular compost).

*Prepare for the container to foam up and bubble over.You should place a tray under your tea bubbler and avoid any electrical or other items that may be damaged or unsafe around the bubbling water.



Vegetattive Stage Recipe

* One Gallon Water *: R/O water,rain water,distilled etc. etc.

* One Teaspoon Black Strap Molasses (unsulfured)1-0-5)*:
Be sure to use only the unsulfured variety.This is because sulfur kills microlife,especially fungus (unless it's elemental sulfur in small ratios).

* One Teaspoon liquid Alaskan Fish Fertilizer (5-1-1)*:
Fungus and bacteria both love fish ferts and go nuts reproducing when it's included.

* One Cup Earthworm Castings (vermicompost) or good outdoor compost*:
Vermicompost provides humates,enzymes,protozoa,nematodes,bacteria,fungus ,trace elements,secondary and primary nutrients.

* One Teaspoon Fox Farms Peace Of Mind All Purpose (5-5-5) *:
Food for the microlife that balances the pH of the tea (to about 6.5-7.2).






Flowering Stage Recipes

* One Teaspoon Black Strap Molasses (unsulfured) (1-0-5) *:
An excellent source of potassium during flowering;bacteria prefer these simple sugars,whereas the fungus prefer more complex sugars derived from various organic matter.

* One Teaspoon Fox Farms Peace Of Mind All Purpose (5-5-5) *:
Food for the microlife that balances the pH of the tea (to about 6.5-7.2).

* One Teaspoon High Phosphorous Bat Guano (0-4-0) *:
Fungi love this nutrient and will deliver it to the plant roots.

* One cup Earthworm Castings (vermicompost) or regular compost *:
Good balance of nutrient (trace and secondary).Also a source for microbes and beneficial elements.

* One teaspoon Maxicrop liquid or 1/2 teaspoon water soluble Maxicrop or kelp/seaweed extract (dry) *:
A fungal favorite,this is a key tea ingredient that produces a good ratio of happy fungus.It's also booming with trace elements,some nitrogen,and some potassium.

* 1/4 teaspoon Micronized (soft) Rock Phosphate *:
Fungus attach to the rock phosphate and grow on it.Also a prime source for phosphorous,magnesium & sulfur.




Fungus Dominant (halfway through flowering) Recipes

* 1/2 cup Earthworm Castings *:
See above.

* 1/2 cup Mushroom Compost *:
This is fungus waiting to happen.A rich source of fungal spores and dense organic matter that fungi like to eat.

* Two tablespoons Powdered,100% Natural rolled oats *:
Fungi love this nutrient and will deliver it to the plant roots.

* Two teaspoons Kelp Meal *:
I use kelp meal for several reasons.It's organic matter that fungi like to attach themselves to.Fungi love kelp extracts as a primary food source and the rich trace elements and potassium it introduces.

* 1/4 teaspoon Micronized (soft) Rock Phosphate *:
Fungus attach to the rock phosphate and grow on it.Also a prime source of phosphorous,magnesium and sulfur.


The earthworm castings,mushroom compost,oatmeal,and kelp meal are first mixed together and made very wet.After fungus has grown on this blend,place it in your tea bubbler for 24 hours with some additional liquid (or water soluble) kelp/seaweed extract and Micronized (soft) rock phosphate.

 

[roughnice420]

wow dude, those do sound like they're yummy! I'm gonna keep experimenting until I find the prefect organic way of doing it...I can't wait to see the results you get!

peace

 

[sir $moka lot]

nice grows there man....buds lookin real nice, cant wait to get my new setup going and get growing again, gonna give this micro under cfl's thing a shot, looks to me like it works well.

sir $moka lot

 

[Thundurkel]

My Grand Master Kush

My Grand Master Kush

So here I have some macro shots I took today of my Grand Master Kush which is supposed to be a purple strain so we'll see in the next few weeks.. All shots are week 5 of flower

looks like it's starting to rurn purple a little ya think?

Not too bad with the camera these days huh?? I'm hoping to win one of the best of 2009 months when I get my purples and blue's going..

cuz I have Urkle and Blue Cheese on the way real soon!

 

[The Wild Eep]

Great plants and great shots, Thund! Happy growing!

You should stop in to the tiny containers thread in my sig.

 

[Thundurkel]

Thanks I'm diggin this Grand Master Kush just wish it yielded more but oh well I wont be sharing this shit hahaha

 

[G0d5hand]

Hey I got a questions for you thundurkel. I am starting from seed planted them a two weeks and all just have their first real leafs. How long do you go from with seed when starting something like you have. I know with clone you cut them to around the right height then start to flower them asap after they get roots, but what is a good method from seed? I look at several cfl grows and couldnt really find an answer. I got another question. For your veg/mother/clone area what do you use for lighting. I didnt know what to get so I have 2 23" floresent plant bulbs. You think this is good. Sorry to ask random questions but I figure you and a few others inspired me to grow this way might as well ask you. Thanks for your help

 

[Thundurkel]

GOd5hand - you want to get 6500k daylight cfl's 26w bulbs are fine I use 4 of them and I have a 4f t5 but the cfls do fine by themselves... As for you seeds I would let them grow to have at lest 3 sets of leaves, some people 12/12 from seed I have and got good results so just play around till you get it... Thanks for stopping by

 

[Supacalabala]

Awesome thread you have going at rollitup. I reading through it right now. Anymore mildew problems?

 

[Thundurkel]

I'm still fighting it a little bit but not much, I still need to clean the walls in my cabs with bleach and the make a mildew killer mix and spray all my plants down and hope that takes care of it. I don't have it that bad at all really I just get a little spot here and there

 

[Entropic]

Ye gods those are some beautiful pics, nice work!