If I were a seed company

[zoolander]

I don't give 2 shit's what they cost as long as the genetic's are good and I can score them . I've grown cheap seed's and not so cheap and for some reason the high dollar seed's always were a better finished product . Don't get me wrong though I've done great with the Mandala gear and some other's like Skunk#1 and all were very nice .

 

[petal]

being stoned, counting seeds & making a profit.
Sounds good to me, but then I've just got low expectations.

 

[jawnroot]

oldtoker: It's not bitching, it's being real. Correct me if I'm wrong, but truffles are the most expensive, legit produce going. People can get upwards of $1500 a pound for truffles. Guess how much inoculated trees cost, that will produce pounds upon pounds of truffles for decades? About $10 each. These are trees that have been germinated and grow under laboratory conditions, and inoculated with a strain of truffles that was painstakingly collected, purified, and selected for various traits. In other words, a far more difficult and involved process than breeding and sorting seeds. Indeed, it makes breeding plants look like child's play.

People complain about high seed prices because those prices are exorbitant. You can try to rationalize it whatever way you want, but seeds are grossly overpriced. $25 for Nirvanas? Sure, I can justify that. Multiple hundreds of dollars for other breeder's wares...for ten seeds? I don't think so.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

hey to everyone complaining about why doesnt he just make more seeds or bigger plants, why dont you grow more bud to sell and then the price of seeds wouldent matter would they? why the hell would you get mad if you paid even 500 for the best seeds on earth you know your going to harvest more then 2 ounces? and you can clone and have it forever

the seed is something you can keep along time, many crops alot of money, put your time in and find a good mom and you wont have to buy seeds, and if your buying for variety then realise you gota pay. im not saying there isnt companys ripping people off but maybe think about the whole circle id say the worst is mislabeling seed and selling it as something differn't.

anyway whens the last time you sorted 5000 seeds because at a rate of 2 dollers a seed thats how many you need. to get 10k.

by the way i dont belive in fully seeding every caylx on a bud maybe half or less i think the buds ripein better and so do the seeds, more energy to the few that are there, i guess this just would make it even harder to get a magical 5000 seeds to sell for 2 dollers a piece, and by the way im sure that theres 500 people waiting in line to buy these seeds. so like head said no worry on waiting for customers to order they are waiting in line all 500 of them.

also do you know if you cant get the money threw a laundry system that all you can have is seed credit, head didn't even mention that did he. im sure that really is helpin. just another thing to think about when bitching about high prices, that arent even really high and you can probley get your money back times 5 on the first harvest but i guess theres not enough things to bitch about, why would i be stoked to get this stuff, if no one bred cannabis i could just grow my favorite roadside hemp.

ROADSIDE HEMP flowers for ever about 11 weeks yields nothing and taste like nothing and gets you no high. seeds on sale now. 2 dollers a seed

wheres my 500 customers?

i think the system is working.

I've been working on a scipt for a movie about those customers...

It's called...

"500"
It starts with a monologue about the clan of growers who were so dedicated, that if their male children were born without green thumbs they were not allowed to live...

They would then be nurtured by their mothers for a short time before being taken away to the training gardens to become men... So grueling were their trials there few made it... But those who did were one with their plants and growers the like of which the world had never seen...

Of the thousands who were sent to the training gardens, only these few remained...

These 500...

And when they knew they would be assaulted by 10,000,000 packages of cannabis seeds, they were not afraid... They had confidence to the last man that they could stand against the horde, and purchase every single seed...

In theaters spring 2009

 

[zoolander]

I think seed's should top out at $80 for the best strain's around .

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

oldtoker: It's not bitching, it's being real. Correct me if I'm wrong, but truffles are the most expensive, legit produce going. People can get upwards of $1500 a pound for truffles. Guess how much inoculated trees cost, that will produce pounds upon pounds of truffles for decades? About $10 each. These are trees that have been germinated and grow under laboratory conditions, and inoculated with a strain of truffles that was painstakingly collected, purified, and selected for various traits. In other words, a far more difficult and involved process than breeding and sorting seeds. Indeed, it makes breeding plants look like child's play.

People complain about high seed prices because those prices are exorbitant. You can try to rationalize it whatever way you want, but seeds are grossly overpriced. $25 for Nirvanas? Sure, I can justify that. Multiple hundreds of dollars for other breeder's wares...for ten seeds? I don't think so.

So how long has there been a possible life sentence for selling inoculated truffle trees?

 

[petal]

^^^^ one of the 500

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I think seed's should top out at $80 for the best strain's around .

Me too, unless gas prices double again... :wink:

 

[zoolander]

I don't know Gat3ful , You know the demand for those truffle's in jail if ya can fit enough up your ass , High dollar's my friend . LOL

 

[jawnroot]

So how long has there been a possible life sentence for selling inoculated truffle trees?

A life sentence for selling seeds? Do you live in Iran?

I'd venture to guess that a lot of folks love breeding because of two things: they're getting comparable returns when compared to selling bud outright, and they have many buffers. In other words, selling seeds is a helluva lot safer than selling buds, and one makes comparable money.

The reason I cited the truffles is because oldtoker used the monetary value of the finished produce as justification for the high price of seeds.

As I mentioned in a previous post, there is a risk/reward factor that should be incorporated into the price of seeds. But to charge $100, $150, $200+++ for a pack of ten seeds? Bullshit on a good day, I don't care how risky it is.

 

[petal]

one can relocate,just like the multinationals do when tax or whatever, get to much.

pepsi/coke is affordable for a lot of people in the developing nations, but $100 for a ten pack is out of the question.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

A life sentence for selling seeds? Do you live in Iran?

I'd venture to guess that a lot of folks love breeding because of two things: they're getting comparable returns when compared to selling bud outright, and they have many buffers. In other words, selling seeds is a helluva lot safer than selling buds, and one makes comparable money.

The reason I cited the truffles is because oldtoker used the monetary value of the finished produce as justification for the high price of seeds.

As I mentioned in a previous post, there is a risk/reward factor that should be incorporated into the price of seeds. But to charge $100, $150, $200+++ for a pack of ten seeds? Bullshit on a good day, I don't care how risky it is.

Study up on laws relating to what all must occur for the seed business to be successful... You'll be suprised...
And yes 150-200 for a pack is bullshit...
Like I already said 3 dollars a seed NET, is absolutely fair... It would not be worth it to me to do it for any less...

 

[petal]

employ some Mexicans, I hear there cheap.

 

[jawnroot]

So you've never heard of rico statute?
And yes 150-200 for a pack is bullshit...
Like I already said 3 dollars a seed NET, is absolutely fair... It would not be worth it to me to do it for any less...

I know the Rico Statute. But do you have any clue how hard it would be to prosecute someone for providing seeds, let alone linking them to a network, especially when offshore parties are involved?

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

one can relocate,just like the multinationals do when tax or whatever, get to much.

pepsi/coke is affordable for a lot of people in the developing nations, but $100 for a ten pack is out of the question.

And most of the people who make the products you buy at walmart cannot afford to buy them... the economies of third world nations is not the standard for pricing for any company I've ever heard of...

With that being said... If your shipping address is in a "developing nation" or country with a horribly depressed economy, and some of my seeds would make a difference to you... I'm always willing to work something out to help someone in need... PM me...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I know the Rico Statute. But do you have any clue how hard it would be to prosecute someone for providing seeds, let alone linking them to a network, especially when offshore parties are involved?

I intimately do. Having layers of protection in place is what costs money, though... Are you familliar with marc emory's case? Or the seed makers who got popped as a result of RC's bust? If you don't think manufacturing an illegal substance and shipping it across international lines to be re-distributed worldwide opens one up to horrible potential legal consequences, you're fooled. Especially if you do it for years on end... Why do you think so many seed makers retire? I guarantee you I won't be doing it for ever, and if it ever becomes less profitable than growing buds then I'll retire sooner than later. Selling a couple of pounds a month to friends you've known for 20 years is much much less risky than the international activities.

 

[jawnroot]

I intimately do. Having layers of protection in place is what costs money, though... Are you familliar with marc emory's case? Or the seed makers who got popped as a result of RC's bust? If you don't think manufacturing an illegal substance and shipping it across international lines to be re-distributed worldwide opens one up to horrible potential legal consequences, you're fooled.

I understand the risks involved in selling seeds. But if you're going to sit there and tell me that selling seeds is more of a risk than growing and selling buds locally, you're the one that's fooled. Indeed, if selling buds was less of a hassle, you'd be doing it yourself, right?

 

[Brad]

which seed makers got busted beacuse of RC? news to me

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I understand the risks involved in selling seeds. But if you're going to sit there and tell me that selling seeds is more of a risk than growing and selling buds locally, you're the one that's fooled. Indeed, if selling buds was less of a hassle, you'd be doing it yourself, right?

I do, because it is... Dealing with one trusted friend once every month is quite safe. All my pot goes one place.
I make seeds because I get begged for them...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

which seed makers got busted beacuse of RC? news to me

The ones who had invoiced him and been paid by check were all looked at. I don't remember who had hassles, but I read about it somewhere among all the thousands of OG related posts on this site and others...