i think it has a colour that is almost neon......green with a blue vibe
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Coulours can be influenced by environment and availability of nutrients, so one cut grown here, and one there will look different, and maybe they'd smell slightly different depending on when it was taken down, and environmental influence again..
That is why, this hobby is the best...even a cut between peeps will produce slightly different end product.
(...and to add to that, like it has been said...every nose is different..
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That is why, this hobby is the best...even a cut between peeps will produce slightly different end product.
(...and to add to that, like it has been said...every nose is different..
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before i saw the colour of cheese i had never seen this "blue hue colour"
i now know this to be the colour of skunk.......this is exactly what th dutch got board of when it comes to skunk....i just think the berry/port/musky taste comes with its colour..its a little purple
was it not the acopulco that was purple?
i now know this to be the colour of skunk.......this is exactly what th dutch got board of when it comes to skunk....i just think the berry/port/musky taste comes with its colour..its a little purple
was it not the acopulco that was purple?
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The Cheese has a purple tinge if ya bring it out, maybe from the Colombian?
ohhh is the purple from the colombian......thats where i think the berry/port smell comes from...
i see red veins in her too...that also seems to be conected to the purple it has
i see red veins in her too...that also seems to be conected to the purple it has
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^^Maybe not, i made that assumption based on reading about the 'purple haze' pheno's bieng of colombian descent, but genes are not as simple as thats that, and thats from that, its how they combine together...somtimes producing rouge plants with traits not shown in the previous generations.
but dont you think the veins in veg would be nice to help find a male
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A male for what?
im thinkin if i look for red veins in any seed project i do with cheese...eg..s1 s2 outcross incross etc...il have a better chance at working with the purple/berry gene if i look for the purple veins...or am i just being an ass bean?..lol...its ok if im an ass
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That would be a good way to go, but you'd have to be lucky to have the genes that control the purple stem trait, also controling the 'blue/purple/berry' trait..just make the seeds and grow from there, you cant plan anything, as the combination of genes, is random(to an extent)......imho, i think you'd just get skunky type plants, with similar highs ranging from mostly indica, to mostly sativa..with just about any smell, mixed with skunk...
...imho, i think you'd just get skunky type plants, with similar highs ranging from mostly indica, to mostly sativa..with just about any smell, mixed with skunk...
im thinkin of...s1 ...ive heared you find land race lookalikes in s1 cheese...look for the veins...and the small afgan....are they good plants to play with...am i talking total bolox??
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Well, you wouldnt have landraces to play with really, just ressecive phenotypes from an IBL thats been selfed, then inbred...far removed from their landrace ancestry...but if thats what you want, then by all means try it out, you never know...
mauiwowie said:Hi guys,
I have been reading this thread with some interest and because of it I met up with an old grower friend I know last night who I hadn't seen for years. K+ to this thread.
Anyway the reason I contacted him is that I remembered around 97 he was doing some selfing/ back crossing experiments with the exodus cheese cut, I am a plant scientist and at the time I was giving him some advice on the science behind plant breeding but I couldn't really remember what had happened. I thought some of you might be interested so I invited him round. Good move as he brought his own hazey breed round called infinity....wowand something else
So here is his story as I remember it from last night.
Selfing cheese is a long and arduous process. As others have said the S1 generation is all throwbacks to the plants used to breed the parents of the SK #1 (cheese). Alot of landrace pheno's as he put it and a few choice indica or sativa doms but nothing like cheese. He then selected plants with cheese like traits (smell, bud structure, colour etc) and grew up 2 sets of clones and placed each in a seperate grow chamber. He then selfed one set to produce S2s but he also collected pollen from each of the S1's and then used that to fertilise a series of S1 crosses in the 2nd chamber to produce aload of F1(s) seed.
He then grew out the S2's and the F1(s). The S2's were much of the same, nothing special but the F1(s) crosses were where it got interesting. He found several S1 crosses that yeilded plants that were either very cheese like or resembled other SK #1 pheno's. So he grew up those S1 clones and redid the crosses to get more seed numbers. This is where it stopped on this experiment as he lost all his clones but he still has some of the seeds.
He gave me 3 of the best (most cheesey) F1(s) seeds he had. He reckons they should be fairly cheesey. He also gave me 3 supercheese seeds that are the end product of a Cheese x super skunk cubing project he was messing around with. He reckons they are pretty cheesey as well. I will be starting up indoors again at some point later in the year so they may well be 1st on the list alongside some grapefruit and Nev's Haze.
what was this all about bro???....his f1`s sound interesting....i like the way he reverted them to landrace ...then used that to work with
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I'm still struggling with this purple/berry concept in Cheese - it's not a strain I would associate with either trait - Cheese is just green isn't it, apart from a little purpling on the petioles? And there's no berry aroma/taste - not even close. Also not sure if red veins are remotely related to either trait, or if selecting for that would give you anything more than more red veins?
This is only my personal opinion, but I don't think there's anything worth pursuing in inline crosses of Cheese - it's good enough as it is (such as it is), and given the lack of expression generally of this pheno in other skunk lines, I think it was just a fluke, and you'd be far better off exploring related Afghani lines for the cheesy taste. Same as the RKS - the 'skunky' smell came from the Afghani, not the sativa parents, and so trying to find it inline skunk crossing is a needle in a haystack scenario.
But yeah - Cheese doesn't really do that much for me personally - I find it only medium potency (for my head), dull on looks, and too familiar in smell and taste - I'm fed up with that kind of weed really, and gave my last Cheese clone away a month ago...
This is only my personal opinion, but I don't think there's anything worth pursuing in inline crosses of Cheese - it's good enough as it is (such as it is), and given the lack of expression generally of this pheno in other skunk lines, I think it was just a fluke, and you'd be far better off exploring related Afghani lines for the cheesy taste. Same as the RKS - the 'skunky' smell came from the Afghani, not the sativa parents, and so trying to find it inline skunk crossing is a needle in a haystack scenario.
But yeah - Cheese doesn't really do that much for me personally - I find it only medium potency (for my head), dull on looks, and too familiar in smell and taste - I'm fed up with that kind of weed really, and gave my last Cheese clone away a month ago...
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I agree too, it's pure green through and through, even grown outdoors with cold temps, and there's no berry taste in there. I mt with a load of other growers yesterday and there were two different Cheese cuts there in bud form, the first one, i smelt and though it was blueberry or bubblegum as it was sweet and fruity, when they said it was Cheese I was very surprised, didn't smell like any Cheese I'd smelt before. Then I was presented with a different batch of Cheese buds and instantly reognised the smell - sweaty feet and dusty drawers. The explanation given was that they were different cuts. The sweaty feet one was definitely the real Cheese, fuck knows what the other one was.
I'll say it again, I'm only making S1s cos friends want them, I'm not interested in workign with Cheese at all, it bores me.
I'll say it again, I'm only making S1s cos friends want them, I'm not interested in workign with Cheese at all, it bores me.
the cut that shefield calls the "the blues" is a little more fruity like blueberry.....but the cheese can pass as the blue when done in canna
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the blues definitely ain't blueberry, or at least, it ain't DJ's blueberry, I suppose it could be a bastardised Dutsh hack of it tho.
I've grown Cheese in Canna coco many times with canna nutes and smoked many sampels also grown in coco with the same nutes and it's always the sweaty socks kinda smell, never smelt anything remotely blue or berry from it at all, first time was this other Cheese cut last night.
I've grown Cheese in Canna coco many times with canna nutes and smoked many sampels also grown in coco with the same nutes and it's always the sweaty socks kinda smell, never smelt anything remotely blue or berry from it at all, first time was this other Cheese cut last night.
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canna aqua brings the blue out a little.....air extracted lights make a big difference too....blues has more of a fruity sweet body....both have that purple skunk look..its very hard to tell them apart...it came from shefield and the pakistani lads... the exodus crew started partys there after london got a little anti free party
