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Tutorial Organics for Beginners
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BurnOne this thread is great it has inspired me to give organic a try, even though this will be my first grow.
First off, where should I go to find the correct kind of molasses?
Second, what kind of coco should be used? The coco coir brick kind that you break apart with a knife and expands in water, or pre-expanded coir?
Thanks
First off, where should I go to find the correct kind of molasses?
Second, what kind of coco should be used? The coco coir brick kind that you break apart with a knife and expands in water, or pre-expanded coir?
Thanks
Poker_Toker
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hi i will be using promix bx and a little more perlite.
I have AN hydro nutes, i was going to use them every other watering at full strength.
What do you guys recomend for using the micro, grow, and bloom hydro nutes in soil
I have AN hydro nutes, i was going to use them every other watering at full strength.
What do you guys recomend for using the micro, grow, and bloom hydro nutes in soil
thanks for the advice before on the RECIPE #1 mix.
i am on a continuous cycle so it gives me a chance to experiment with something different every week.
i am very pleased to have finally found a high nitrogen bat guano supplier un the uk. so this time i'm going to try the "Bongaloid's Guano Mix".
i am going to be using LC’s Soiless Mix #1 as my soiless mix again,
5 parts Coir
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings
garden lime which is screened limestone @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix. (my old growing friend tells me this is dolomite lime, but i am not so sure. but it was the only lime i can find in any of the garden centres near me).
i am now using R.O. water because the water in my area is really terrible quality.
RECIPE #2
Bongaloid's Guano Mix.
Use all these items combined with one gallon of soil mix.
1/3C hi N Guano (N8 P1 K1) (with these NPK values i wonder if these were
1/2C hi P Guano (N6 P15 K3) still suitable in these amount)
1TBS Kelp Meal
i still cannot get any Jersey Greensand. can i replace this with something?
so will i still have to mix my ferts and soiless mix, wet and leave two weeks if i am not using bone meal, which obviously needs time to break down?
so you were saying with recipe #1, that it was not suitable for seedlings, but would be ok for rooted cuttings. i wondered if this was a suitable mix to pot plants that are just going to be in veg stage in it. i pot my plants twice from cuttings, i pot the cuttings up then grow them in veg stage for 2 weeks, then i re pot them into a bigger pot and put them straight in the flowering room.
would there be a better mix for me to use to pot them to veg in?
i think thats about it, i'd quite like to stick with this one if i get good results.
cheers guys.
i am on a continuous cycle so it gives me a chance to experiment with something different every week.
i am very pleased to have finally found a high nitrogen bat guano supplier un the uk. so this time i'm going to try the "Bongaloid's Guano Mix".
i am going to be using LC’s Soiless Mix #1 as my soiless mix again,
5 parts Coir
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings
garden lime which is screened limestone @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix. (my old growing friend tells me this is dolomite lime, but i am not so sure. but it was the only lime i can find in any of the garden centres near me).
i am now using R.O. water because the water in my area is really terrible quality.
RECIPE #2
Bongaloid's Guano Mix.
Use all these items combined with one gallon of soil mix.
1/3C hi N Guano (N8 P1 K1) (with these NPK values i wonder if these were
1/2C hi P Guano (N6 P15 K3) still suitable in these amount)
1TBS Kelp Meal
i still cannot get any Jersey Greensand. can i replace this with something?
so will i still have to mix my ferts and soiless mix, wet and leave two weeks if i am not using bone meal, which obviously needs time to break down?
so you were saying with recipe #1, that it was not suitable for seedlings, but would be ok for rooted cuttings. i wondered if this was a suitable mix to pot plants that are just going to be in veg stage in it. i pot my plants twice from cuttings, i pot the cuttings up then grow them in veg stage for 2 weeks, then i re pot them into a bigger pot and put them straight in the flowering room.
would there be a better mix for me to use to pot them to veg in?
i think thats about it, i'd quite like to stick with this one if i get good results.
cheers guys.
Black Strap Molasses can be found at any grocery store.Sevens said:BurnOne this thread is great it has inspired me to give organic a try, even though this will be my first grow.
First off, where should I go to find the correct kind of molasses?
Second, what kind of coco should be used? The coco coir brick kind that you break apart with a knife and expands in water, or pre-expanded coir?
Thanks
Any coir can be used. Just make sure it has a very low salt content.
Burn1
lovelightpower-
Don't worry about the greensand.
The reason you don't need to feed seedlings is because they already have food on board. The first two round leaves feed the plant. After about two weeks, they begin to yellow and fall off. After that, the plant will need to be fed.
LC's mixes contain almost no "food". So, all plants except young seedlings will have to be fed.
Burn1
Don't worry about the greensand.
The reason you don't need to feed seedlings is because they already have food on board. The first two round leaves feed the plant. After about two weeks, they begin to yellow and fall off. After that, the plant will need to be fed.
LC's mixes contain almost no "food". So, all plants except young seedlings will have to be fed.
Burn1
nice 1 Burn1!
thanks for the help.
thanks for the help.
lime consistency
lime consistency
i have "granular" dolomite lime -- it's called "Dolomite 10 AG" -- mfg by Chemical Lime Co. in Salinas. Is "organic."
the largest particle size = fine sand.
The vendor also has "Dolomite 65 AG" powdered. it's not "organic."
I think i need the powdered, yeah?
thank you for reading,
sardine
lime consistency
Suby said:You can put your dolomite in a cheap blender and powder it, just do it outside or your better half will tear you a new one.
Pellets leave bigger pockets of lime in the soil, it can work but personally I would powder it.
S
i have "granular" dolomite lime -- it's called "Dolomite 10 AG" -- mfg by Chemical Lime Co. in Salinas. Is "organic."
the largest particle size = fine sand.
The vendor also has "Dolomite 65 AG" powdered. it's not "organic."
I think i need the powdered, yeah?
thank you for reading,
sardine
thank you
thank you
Thank you for the welcome, B1 ... it's good to be here.
i also appreciate the information. Thank you for taking the time to answer! It helps!!
Best,
sardine
ps: maybe inconsistency in labeling here is an oversite by the Marketing Genius Department. (accuracy aside)
:wink:
thank you
BurnOne said:
Thank you for the welcome, B1 ... it's good to be here.
i also appreciate the information. Thank you for taking the time to answer! It helps!!
Best,
sardine
ps: maybe inconsistency in labeling here is an oversite by the Marketing Genius Department. (accuracy aside)
:wink:
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I don't know the prices where you are. There's no need to buy them anyway. Pro Mix either. Use plain old Canadian Peat...e20sm0ke said:
LC’s Soiless Mix #1:
5 parts Canadian Spaghnam Peat
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
Burn1
hey bro what do you recommend mixing all of this in? also is there a certain measuring device i could pickup at home depot/walmart while im there. im going tonight
so i had a lil bit of a journey. went to home depot they didnt have much all for perlite they had was miracle grow company so i didnt get it same with peat moss so i went to lowes and they had the good peat moss so i got some of that. is the miracle grow peat moss bad? i couldnt find perlite that wasnt miracle grow at any of these 3 places. do you recommend going to a nursery
also at one point do i add the bone kelp and blood meal all in.. and can i use this for germinating the seeds
5 parts peat moss
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
so i had a lil bit of a journey. went to home depot they didnt have much all for perlite they had was miracle grow company so i didnt get it same with peat moss so i went to lowes and they had the good peat moss so i got some of that. is the miracle grow peat moss bad? i couldnt find perlite that wasnt miracle grow at any of these 3 places. do you recommend going to a nursery
also at one point do i add the bone kelp and blood meal all in.. and can i use this for germinating the seeds
5 parts peat moss
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
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