What is Colombian Gold 🟡 to you?

[Lugo]

There is a book out called "Marijuana Boom" by a historian named Lina Britto. She is originally from Colombia and has relatives in the Santa Marta area. She did many interviews with people who were in the business and local officials and she laid it out like this. Colombia didn't have much of a a marijuana culture to speak of. Marijuana was brought to Colombia from Jamaica in the 20's by United Fruit banana plantation workers and it's use didn't really spread to the Colombian population because middle class Colombians looked down on it. Nonetheless the plant did take root and by the 60's there were about five different distinct varieties including a gold variety. In the early 70's American smugglers brought Mexican and Hawaiian seeds and "agronomists" to Colombia and they crossed them with the local gold and began marketing them as Colombian Gold in the US. The original gold variety was had an outstanding high before the breeding but they wanted to increase the yield with the Sonora Mexican genetics and improve the taste with the Hawaiian. The outcome was commercial Colombian in the late 70's / early 80's and it had a great high. It was like being wrapped in a warm comfy blanket of happy. I smoke it from '76 through the 80's and like Yesum said it had a very distinct taste and smell. People have described it as "sandalwood". The CIA estimated that 85% of the weed coming into the US around 1980 was Colombian. Later on things came from many different Central American and Caribbean countries. By the mid 80's they said Belize was the fourth largest supplier to the US behind Mexico, Colombia and Jamaica. But I never heard anyone offering fine Belize Breeze back then. I was just in Belize a couple of months ago and you can still get a fine locally grown sativa that was compressed and cured the old way. At least it smelled and tasted similar to the old stuff. I grew bagseed outdoors for a decade or so before I switched over to growing hybrids in the late 80's. I always missed that great Colombian high and a couple of years ago I came across a guy who had collected seed in the 60's 70's and 80's and I bought what he had. He was in the business and helped dealer friends break up their loads from bales, so he had access to a huge variety of weed. Of the first 72 seeds I sprouted only a couple were duplicate varieties. One is very special to me. It is one of the old commercial Colombian varieties and has the same taste and high as the old stuff. That sandalwood flavor is not from the cure, it's in the genetics.

Of course I am familiar with Lina Btitto. She recently published that book. With all due respect, honestly Im surprised you took the time to even write that non-sense down. That Cannabis came to Colombia from Jamaica is laughable

As far as the introduction of Mexican, Hawaiian and possibly Martian seed being introduced to Colombia in the 70's well, its quite possible but if you knew anything about biology, botany and population genetics you'd know that those introduced seeds on the whole, as far as the native populations are concerned MEAN JACK DIDDLY SQUAT.

I find terribly annoying how these armchair historians who have never even been to this country are always trying to rewrite its history (for what reason, I don't know) nevermind the fact that its likely they've never grown, processed, trafficked in the plant in question. They read 'books'. I'd LOVE to atleast see your homegrown Colombian Gold which is highly unlikely.


Also I think its highly unethical and detrimental that people spread what are basically unproven, needle in a haystack theories if not just outright lies about Colombias Cannabis history.

Maybe IC Mag should set up a 'Crazy, unproven theories in Cannabis History' sub-forum where people that believe this nonsense can post.

There is a book out called "Marijuana Boom" by a historian named Lina Britto. She is originally from Colombia and has relatives in the Santa Marta area. She did many interviews with people who were in the business and local officials and she laid it out like this. Colombia didn't have much of a a marijuana culture to speak of. Marijuana was brought to Colombia from Jamaica in the 20's by United Fruit banana plantation workers and it's use didn't really spread to the Colombian population because middle class Colombians looked down on it. Nonetheless the plant did take root and by the 60's there were about five different distinct varieties including a gold variety. In the early 70's American smugglers brought Mexican and Hawaiian seeds and "agronomists" to Colombia and they crossed them with the local gold and began marketing them as Colombian Gold in the US. The original gold variety was had an outstanding high before the breeding but they wanted to increase the yield with the Sonora Mexican genetics and improve the taste with the Hawaiian. The outcome was commercial Colombian in the late 70's / early 80's and it had a great high. It was like being wrapped in a warm comfy blanket of happy. I smoke it from '76 through the 80's and like Yesum said it had a very distinct taste and smell. People have described it as "sandalwood". The CIA estimated that 85% of the weed coming into the US around 1980 was Colombian. Later on things came from many different Central American and Caribbean countries. By the mid 80's they said Belize was the fourth largest supplier to the US behind Mexico, Colombia and Jamaica. But I never heard anyone offering fine Belize Breeze back then. I was just in Belize a couple of months ago and you can still get a fine locally grown sativa that was compressed and cured the old way. At least it smelled and tasted similar to the old stuff. I grew bagseed outdoors for a decade or so before I switched over to growing hybrids in the late 80's. I always missed that great Colombian high and a couple of years ago I came across a guy who had collected seed in the 60's 70's and 80's and I bought what he had. He was in the business and helped dealer friends break up their loads from bales, so he had access to a huge variety of weed. Of the first 72 seeds I sprouted only a couple were duplicate varieties. One is very special to me. It is one of the old commercial Colombian varieties and has the same taste and high as the old stuff. That sandalwood flavor is not from the cure, it's in the genetics.

Im surprised you took the time to write all this nonsense down.


That Cannabis came to Colombia from Jamaica is abdolutely laughable.

 

[Roms]

Back in the days Colombian could be Mexican.
From High Times 1979, article about Colombia.

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Both old Mex and Cumbia Gold have the same old pure sat Austronesian NLDA source imho Santa vibration across Pacific Ocean.

 

[Roms]

 

[Lugo]

I'm not South/Central America specialist but @satva is one the best Colombian connoisseur and reporter i know.

At the time Luiz and his BrazilianSeedCo had released Colombian Black, i don't remember for the Red and Gold but very probably yes.



Have to ask amigo @nachilloo, CBG's PR is work of him. Then also pure repro by @jact55.

That'd be Bahia Black head or Cabeça de Negro. I'm working on getting some bricks of Paraguaian and some Brasilian flower and seed atm

 

[Lugo]

Back in the days Colombian could be Mexican.
From High Times 1979, article about Colombia.

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In the US it was more like the other way around. You really believe this? lol

 

[Lugo]

According to the Saltwater Cowboy he said on a podcast that in the early years he would unload unload smushed weed, but not bricked. A few years later they were using 50lb bales. He was under the impression that a new consumer item called the trash compactor had made the same uniform sized blocks. He said the first loads were much smaller, then with the bricked weed they did multi ton loads on the same ships. Compacting it allowed for much larger loads.

Saw that.

 

[Roms]

That'd be Bahia Black head or Cabeça de Negro. I'm working on getting some bricks of Paraguaian and some Brasilian flower and seed atm

Ecuador, Peru and Brazil should still have some Black/Red lines from the Gold yes

 

[yesum]

So what is the origin of Colombian pot in general Lugo? I do not have a clue and as such am just an observer.

Would like to more on the Bahia as to effects. Have some Corinto into flower now, short plants but taking time to flower. Leaves not so narrow. We will see. They love what I have all around me now or modern hybrids, and the old lines are harder to come by.

 

[mexcurandero420]

There is a book out called "Marijuana Boom" by a historian named Lina Britto. She is originally from Colombia and has relatives in the Santa Marta area. She did many interviews with people who were in the business and local officials and she laid it out like this. Colombia didn't have much of a a marijuana culture to speak of. Marijuana was brought to Colombia from Jamaica in the 20's by United Fruit banana plantation workers and it's use didn't really spread to the Colombian population because middle class Colombians looked down on it. Nonetheless the plant did take root and by the 60's there were about five different distinct varieties including a gold variety. In the early 70's American smugglers brought Mexican and Hawaiian seeds and "agronomists" to Colombia and they crossed them with the local gold and began marketing them as Colombian Gold in the US. The original gold variety was had an outstanding high before the breeding but they wanted to increase the yield with the Sonora Mexican genetics and improve the taste with the Hawaiian. The outcome was commercial Colombian in the late 70's / early 80's and it had a great high. It was like being wrapped in a warm comfy blanket of happy. I smoke it from '76 through the 80's and like Yesum said it had a very distinct taste and smell. People have described it as "sandalwood". The CIA estimated that 85% of the weed coming into the US around 1980 was Colombian. Later on things came from many different Central American and Caribbean countries. By the mid 80's they said Belize was the fourth largest supplier to the US behind Mexico, Colombia and Jamaica. But I never heard anyone offering fine Belize Breeze back then. I was just in Belize a couple of months ago and you can still get a fine locally grown sativa that was compressed and cured the old way. At least it smelled and tasted similar to the old stuff. I grew bagseed outdoors for a decade or so before I switched over to growing hybrids in the late 80's. I always missed that great Colombian high and a couple of years ago I came across a guy who had collected seed in the 60's 70's and 80's and I bought what he had. He was in the business and helped dealer friends break up their loads from bales, so he had access to a huge variety of weed. Of the first 72 seeds I sprouted only a couple were duplicate varieties. One is very special to me. It is one of the old commercial Colombian varieties and has the same taste and high as the old stuff. That sandalwood flavor is not from the cure, it's in the genetics.

Interesting that in the 1920s genetics came from Jamaica.Are there any records or was she told?In 1862 it was brought by indentured workers from Sierra Leone to Jamaica.Chris Duvall found this in British archives.

 

[Lugo]

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So what is the origin of Colombian pot in general Lugo? I do not have a clue and as such am just an observer.

Would like to more on the Bahia as to effects. Have some Corinto into flower now, short plants but taking time to flower. Leaves not so narrow. We will see. They love what I have all around me now or modern hybrids, and the old lines are harder to come by.

Well i'm no expert but short version is Africa and India. Ships, sails, hemp and slaves.

I'd love to see your Corinto, where/how did you acquire it? Hows she smell? I have plenty of Corinto flower I mix in w/the CPR sometime, makes great hash and oil. I have some seed which is rare a find. In a pound I found 3-4. And ive gone through many a pound.

As far as BBH is concerned I have no first hand knowledge of it, it was on Luizs BSC catalog years ago.

 

[OldCoolSativa]

In my opinion, anyone who definitively tells you where Colombian weed originated is full of shit because it all happened at least 100 years ago, likely several hundred years ago. Colombia, unlike Southeast Asia, did not have an endemic ganja culture. In 1977 Time Magazine published an article on the Colombia marijuana trade, and the article stated that Thai genetics were introduced into some areas of Colombia (don't recall which ones) and that the Thai genetics were being cultivated at scale for export at that time. This is consistent with Phylos analyses that have shown Thai genetics in some Colombian cultivars.

 

[IndicaFarmer]

That'd be Bahia Black head or Cabeça de Negro. I'm working on getting some bricks of Paraguaian and some Brasilian flower and seed atm

Bahia is killer. Ive grown some from KC Brains, it was awesome in my opinion. Very centered in the head. when I smoked it, it very much reminded me of the first times I ever got actually good and high as a teen. Like I had no tolerance again. If anyone has the chance to snag some, I highly recommend this particular strain. You will not regret it!

 

[Lugo]

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In my opinion, anyone who definitively tells you where Colombian weed originated is full of shit because it all happened at least 100 years ago, likely several hundred years ago. Colombia, unlike Southeast Asia, did not have an endemic ganja culture. In 1977 Time Magazine published an article on the Colombia marijuana trade, and the article stated that Thai genetics were introduced into some areas of Colombia (don't recall which ones) and that the Thai genetics were being cultivated at scale for export at that time. This is consistent with Phylos analyses that have shown Thai genetics in some Colombian cultivars.

Whatever man. Your using TIME magazine as a reference lol so although I appreciate your input i'll just leave that where it is.

 

[Ca++]

Colombian Gold, is when your pump fails, 2 weeks before harvest

 

[Lugo]

In my opinion, anyone who definitively tells you where Colombian weed originated is full of shit because it all happened at least 100 years ago, likely several hundred years ago. Colombia, unlike Southeast Asia, did not have an endemic ganja culture. In 1977 Time Magazine published an article on the Colombia marijuana trade, and the article stated that Thai genetics were introduced into some areas of Colombia (don't recall which ones) and that the Thai genetics were being cultivated at scale for export at that time. This is consistent with Phylos analyses that have shown Thai genetics in some Colombian cultivars.

Well Phylos

Colombian Gold, is when your pump fails, 2 weeks before harvest

CG is such a long flower theres a wide window where you can harvest several weeks early and still have a good harvest.

But yeah lol

 

[Lugo]

Bahia is killer. Ive grown some from KC Brains, it was awesome in my opinion. Very centered in the head. when I smoked it, it very much reminded me of the first times I ever got actually good and high as a teen. Like I had no tolerance again. If anyone has the chance to snag some, I highly recommend this particular strain. You will not regret it!

I'm working on it! Ive got a couple of scouts in BZ

 

[motaco]

edited- forgive me I just don’t care to spread more negativity on the forums.

 

[Lugo]

edited- forgive me I just don’t care to spread more negativity on the forums.

and it is out there lol

 

[Roms]

In my opinion, anyone who definitively tells you where Colombian weed originated is full of shit because it all happened at least 100 years ago, likely several hundred years ago. Colombia, unlike Southeast Asia, did not have an endemic ganja culture. In 1977 Time Magazine published an article on the Colombia marijuana trade, and the article stated that Thai genetics were introduced into some areas of Colombia (don't recall which ones) and that the Thai genetics were being cultivated at scale for export at that time. This is consistent with Phylos analyses that have shown Thai genetics in some Colombian cultivars.

Classic deep ignorance and racism of new America empty of history and its experts full of shits compared to the great Mexican and Colombian proto-history, not surprising that Phylos confirms and close the brainwashing with modern Thai lol.

Hopefully soon complete the end of the empire of lies and dishonesty, this will mark the beginning of the next golden human age, new era of peace and high level of consciousness thanks to pure South American sat and all others landraces but also thanks to the next Afghan and Pakistan Hindu Kush revival. In two decades i bet that skunk or haze will be a jokes.

 

[Lugo]

Classic deep ignorance and racism of new America empty of history and its experts full of shits compared to the great Mexican and Colombian proto-history, not surprising that Phylos confirms and close the brainwashing with modern Thai lol.

Hopefully soon complete the end of the empire of lies and dishonesty, this will mark the beginning of the next golden human age, new era of peace and high level of consciousness thanks to pure South American sat and all others landraces but also thanks to the next Afghan and Pakistan Hindu Kush revival. In two decades i bet that skunk will be a joke.

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