Holy grail Mr Nice.

[acespicoli]

Curious, what happened to Nevils seeds after his death? Any plans to go forward?

Wish someone would do a haze family tree thread covering Nevs, Shanti, original, Toms, oldtimers, and all the different #s of Nevs. We need another haze thread.

Lumbo gold >>> Nevs, Shanti, original, Toms, oldtimers,

I would recommend by days of flower, to show a time line of evolution or hybridization ?

How long does a equatorial evolved strain usually take to mature?
We talking pure sativa or indica/sativa auto/sativa haze ? No hybrids... I read the usa govt was growing in panama in the 1920's...
Id say only pure haze 100+ days thread or delete the post,,, even then #16....
100 days from seed I guess...

Pure Haze

Oldtimer's Haze

Green Haze

Mekong Haze

Purple Haze

Haze-4-Dayz

Haze

Sourhaze

Green Honduras Haze

Neville's Haze

Purple Honduras Haze

Super Cali Haze

A5 Haze

Original Haze x Lambsbread

Haze

Haze Auto Tao

Long Haze

Santa Marta Haze

Velvet Rush x NL5xNH

BA #75 Haze

Panama Haze

Bandaide Haze

Critical Chaze

Golden Haze

Hawaiian Haze

Maharaja Haze

Alot of those even contain other genetics on inspection

 

[g0dzilla]

The original work is apparently too valuable as exclusive breeding stock to those that have it to share in Nev's original form.
Instead, it seems THE RABBLE have to be satisfied with hybrid outcrosses that other people make for the market. Poly hybrids. Like what they are doing with "Outback Haze."
Might be some fire phenos in what other people do with it, but it's not really Nev's work anymore once it's outcrossed like that is it?

Sad that the original stuff is hoarded that way $$$.
Hard to believe that is what Nev would have wanted, but I wasn't his best buddy.
Just exchanged a few PM's with him back in the day at MNS.

Have you asked @ojd about the s1s. I did last week and got an answer.

In the mean time the hybrids however have treated me well.

 

[Zomboy]

Have you asked @ojd about the s1s. I did last week and got an answer.

In the mean time the hybrids however have treated me well.

Which Outback hybrids did you end up trying?

 

[g0dzilla]

That's the Outbackhaze 2 x nh21 x mm and I'm flowering outback 2 x sssdh .

 

[Zomboy]

That's the Outbackhaze 2 x nh21 x mm and I'm flowering outback 2 x sssdh .

Looks good, well done. Hows the smell/taste and effect?

 

[g0dzilla]

Looks good, well done. Hows the smell/taste and effect?

It was one of the greasiest plants I've ever grown. After 6 months in a jar it would still put stains on the paper when I rolled it. I don't have it anymore but I grew a few more outside as well. The one pictured was Lemon pledge musk with a bit of olive oil . Very uplifting and long lasting high. The outdoor ones had one or two that was citrus as well and a single female that was pure incense and dark leathery profile. Hope that helps.

 

[Zomboy]

It was one of the greasiest plants I've ever grown. After 6 months in a jar it would still put stains on the paper when I rolled it. I don't have it anymore but I grew a few more outside as well. The one pictured was Lemon pledge musk with a bit of olive oil . Very uplifting and long lasting high. The outdoor ones had one or two that was citrus as well and a single female that was pure incense and dark leathery profile. Hope that helps.

It does, thank you for the description

 

[ojd]

It was one of the greasiest plants I've ever grown. After 6 months in a jar it would still put stains on the paper when I rolled it. I don't have it anymore but I grew a few more outside as well. The one pictured was Lemon pledge musk with a bit of olive oil . Very uplifting and long lasting high. The outdoor ones had one or two that was citrus as well and a single female that was pure incense and dark leathery profile. Hope that helps.

Glad to hear you have enjoyed the Outback Haze x NH21 x Mullumbimby Madness seeds i made , the Original Grail project strains made by Nevil have blown me away , defo can hang with his old work and the word is slowly getting out there.



Like someone mentioned the Outback Haze and many others were Feminized so ive made a Regular seed line using the Regular NH21 x Mullum Nevil male and a Feminized NH21 x Mullum project also Reversing the Regular NH21 x MML line onto many of the Original Grail project strains and strains i run ,plus other hybrids like Australian Dead Head Fem (Mullum x NH21 x Casey Jones) and Outback OG Regular( Outback Haze x OG kush dom Male) and several SSSDH x Grail project strains like Super Silver Sour Thai Nevil, and several other grail x SSSDH Reversed X's.



Sour Thai Nevil is my personal recomendation for a Frankincense search( Swiss Thai Nevil 1 clone x SSSDH OJD cut Reversed) she is the Frankincense king, giving out mutiple Frankincense phenos and even a Gringspoon pheno in ever packet



These are the 3 Grail project hybrid lines i offer , plus as i mentioned there are many other x's using the Nevil Grail project strains but these are Nevil Grail project lines i offer



Regular seeds Nevil Schoenmakers Grail project.





NH = Nevil Haze

MML = Mulumbimby Madness Long





1.Swiss Thai Nevil 1

x NH21 x MML Male

12-16 weeks





2.Swiss Thai Nevil 2

x NH21 x MML Male

12 -16 weeks





3.Outback Haze 1

x NH21 x MML Male

12- 16 weeks





4.Outback Haze 2

x NH21 x MML Male

12-16 weeks





5.Thai Neville OG Diesel

x NH21 x MML Male

10--16 weeks





6.NH21 x MML F2

12 - 16 weeks Male







7.NH18 x MM pheno 1

x NH21 x MML Male

12-16 weeks





8.NH18 X MM pheno 2

x NH21 X MML Male

12-16 weeks







9.NH18 X MM pheno 3

x NH21 x MML Male

12-16 weeks





10.NH18 x MM pheno 4

x NH21 x MML Male

12 - 16 weeks







11. Strawberry Cookies clone

x NH21 x MML Male

9-13 weeks





12. Diesel Dipped OG

x NH21 x MML Male

9-13 weeks





13.Ice cream Cake clone

x NH21 X MML Male

10-14 weels



14.East coast Casey Jones clone

X NH21 X MML Male

8-12 weeks



15.Fuel Zkittles OG clone

XNH21 X MML Male

9-13 weeks





16.Casey Jones clone

X NH21 X MML Male

8-12 weeks





17. Purple Cheddar OG clone

x NH21 x MML Male

8-12 weeks





18. Hazeolope clone

x NH21 x MML Male

10-14 weeks



19. Chem d Madness = Chem d clone x NH21 x MML Male



20. GMO Madness = GMO S1 clone X NH21 X MML Male









Neville Schoenmakers Feminized project.



1. Nevil Haze 21 x Mullumbimby Madness Long (S1) = NH21 x MML clone x NH21 x MML clone Reversed.



2. Australian Outback = Outback Haze 2 clone x NH21 x MML clone Reversed.



3. Thai Madness = Swiss Thai Nevil 2 clone x NH21 x MML clone Reversed.



4. Chem d Madness = Chem d clone x NH21 x MML clone Reversed



5. GMO Madness = GMO S1 clone X NH21 X MML clone Reversed



6. Kangaroo Cake = Ice Cream Cake Diesel x NH21 x MML clone Reversed



7. Shire Madness = Outback Haze 1 clone x NH21 x MML clone Reversed



8. New Age Nevil Haze = NH18 x Mullumbimby Madness x NH21 x MML clone Reversed



9. Neville's Mullumbimby Madness Mix ( 15 seeds for normal price of 5 seed ) = random mix from above strains.





Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba ( African Sativa) Regular seed hybrid project



This project used a selected Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba ( African Sativa) Male from Nevil's strain NH23 x Kariba and hit to a bunch of my clones.



The NH23 x Kariba Female winner (unfortunately not used in this line) was a really special lady , Extreme amazing spicy Frankincense smell/taste, maybe the most Frankincense from the whole Grail project Nevil made from the strains i tried , and very potent unique up High.



The Male was selected to mirror the Female with it giving up Frankincense terps in vegative on stem rubs etc and same growth/leafs traits.



Available NH23 x Kariba Regular Souvenir seeds



1. African Oranges =

Tropicana GMO Cookies 1 clone ( Orange Gas Pheno)

X Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Male



2. African Gas station Cookies =

Tropicana GMO Cookies 2 clone ( Gas Cookie pheno) x Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Male



3.African Chocolate  = Australian Chocolate clone, Chocolope leaner ( Outback Haze 1 clone x Chocolope Male)

x Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Male



4.African Frankincense = Australian Chocolate clone ( Frankincense pheno)

X Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Male



5.African dog = Chem d clone x Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Male



6.ThaiFrican = Outback Haze 2 clone x Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Male



7.African Outback = Outback Haze 1 clone x Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Male



8.African Triangle = Triangle Kush Haze x GMO clone x Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Male



9.African Thai Haze = Swiss Thai Nevil 2 clone x Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba

 

[ojd]

@ojd that fat stalk was Kangavita‘s …this one is me  >>>.



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Wow thats an insane tree trunk , nice.

What strain was it and how much did it yield ?

 

[flower~power]

@ojd …. ( And all )here’s a link to the entire thread … I would encourage you to scroll through it it’s a good humored thread with lots of pictures and information on a very spectacular creation https://www.icmag.com/threads/the-daze.18123453/

 

[flower~power]

This Nevils Haze … The legendary cut itsself the original its still held there’s no reason why people can’t see these pictures this is grown by one of the most famous members that we have … if he didn’t live a continent away from me I would be his consigliere..

 

[flower~power]

And here’s one of my own creations something was pretty amazing from long ago Mr. nice super silver haze crossed with the original C99 … both from the 1998 seed stock

 

[X15]

The OutBack Haze uses 2 Nevils Haze the NH21 / NH36 and my Thai.




No he worked with Nevil at Tasscann then Ausscann then when Nevil had health issues pre the C he was there to look after him and then looked after him threw his last illness.

So no he was not there at the later stage of Nevils illness he was there helping and working with Nevil for well over a decade.

@HEMPY you seem to use the word NO in a way I’m not familiar with lol. no offense but didn’t you repeat what @Donald Mallard lol.

 

[harvestreaper]

do any of the coffee shops still sell bud off any of these old cuts ??c5 a5 c3p0 etc etc

 

[bigtacofarmer]

I wish I had thought ahead and made some f2s with the Oaxaca cross. I did hit my favorite female with some headbanger pollen. The few seeds I ran show potential for finding some potent, great tasting plants finishing in the 10 to 12 week range.

 

[Hammerhead]

@HEMPY you seem to use the word NO in a way I’m not familiar with lol. no offense but didn’t you repeat what @Donald Mallard lol.

I read it that way as well lol.

 

[GoatCheese]

do any of the coffee shops still sell bud off any of these old cuts ??c5 a5 c3p0 etc etc

De Dampkring (original) had at least C5, CG13 AG13 and Hashplant Haze (HPH) on the menu earlier this month ..how old their cuts are, i dunno, but they've had them for years on the menu

http://www.coffeeshopmenus.org/Dampkring/Menus/Dampkring.html

 

[Raho]

Have you asked @ojd about the s1s. I did last week and got an answer.

In the mean time the hybrids however have treated me well.

Thanks g0dzilla. That's really good to know, but no I haven't.

I know that with the proper amount of courtship and honorable agreements, that just about any strain in the world can be sourced. That's not really what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about seeds for sale that don't require a person to "bend the knee" or otherwise enter into a relationship with people. This is the model the makes things accessible for the greatest number of people, which is the goal of my posts here.

Honestly, as beautiful as the Outback Haze flowers look in the pics that have been shared, I'm not really interested in growing it myself.
For my head and heart, the best parts of the Grail project came from/through Kanga.
Not looking for an ultimate Nevil's Haze Hybrid.
If I was, Outback haze would probably be top of the list.

BTW, I should apologize for side-tracking this thread more than it already was.
I guess it seems natural that since Shanti took Nevil's project name for his MNS strain, the discussion of Nev's Grail work would enter the conversation.

 

[Raho]

@HEMPY you seem to use the word NO in a way I’m not familiar with lol. no offense but didn’t you repeat what @Donald Mallard lol.

DAMN THAT'S FUNNY

 

[@hempy]

@HEMPY you seem to use the word NO in a way I’m not familiar with lol. no offense but didn’t you repeat what @Donald Mallard lol.

What are you on about X15 ?

Wally claimed a set person was there to help Nevil towards the end of his illness and that was not true so you also one of these people that are all about misinformation .