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vermontman

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Time for some advice. Here are two pics of healthy plants with no sign of problems...
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And here are a few of what I think is a problem plant. Rather than wildly pushing fresh pistols it seems to be turning its energy inward. It is tightening up and the tips have a lot of small green calyxes some of which are not pushing out hairs. No obvious signs of pollen but it looks like it's trying to produce tiny seeds at this point. I think it may be time to remove it. Thoughts? The other two look fantastic and I have six more babies and cups that are about ready to be transplanted to larger pots.
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Should she stay or should she go now?
I agree with the gentlemen above if there is no pollen sacks anywhere
and you other female is still running all white pistils, I would just go with it.
Cheers!
 

Hmong

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the two PBB males are doing well in my torture chamber!
harvested some pollen yesterday and took off the heads to finish at the window.

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MIGreenman

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The votes are in and I am letting it roll. Thanks for the input...
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these are my babies in veg. The front six are the end of my PBB pack and there are four in the back. Get this. Super silver sour diesel gorilla bubble haze. Short and sweet name a? Starting week 6 on the flowering PBBs Monday and I just picked up a web job so I'm getting busier. I will continue to update.
 

vermontman

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GREEN MOUNTAIN GRAPE
Bottom of the plant harvest day, with rain moving in again.
Ironically it was a much much drier grow season but this year had a bit more mold on #3 but nothing terrible. I think that it got used to having such dry weather during early flowering it as not used to getting wet at all where last season Grape #3 got rained on every other day through out flowering. It also could be this year is from a cut? But over all very happy to keep her around.
SEPT 11TH!

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TexasTea

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Sign me up for some fems! :)

Guys like me with smaller spaces and zillions of options that they want to try but don't have time for really appreciate only having to pop one or two seeds. As opposed to having to dedicate 6 plant spaces and then waiting forever to sex them, etc and still you risk not getting any females. This spring I germinated a ton of seeds and only had 4 females, and so I threw away 8 or 10 males. There is an old school attitude that persists that somehow fems are not as good as the regs but I have yet to see it.
 

Hmong

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Curious to hear peoples opinions on fem seeds?

It's all genetics! if they suck, they suck
and unfortunately many big seedbanks, do a shit job of selection and preservation of parental lines for reproduction.
with your average commercial seedbank, you will get S3-S4 etc. fems and that's where the bad reputation comes from.

I grow a cut for a year straight, and stress the fuck outta it, before even considering a Fem
like I do with almost every keeper along the way, even for Reg breeding.

Also for mothers, Fems often suck because of autoflowering traits.
I don't know why, but we have that happen in the clone store a lot, that's why the menu is constantly rotated in our local industry. The oldest cuts (up to 20y) are all from Regs.

jm2c
 
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vermontman

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Sign me up for some fems! :)

Guys like me with smaller spaces and zillions of options that they want to try but don't have time for really appreciate only having to pop one or two seeds. As opposed to having to dedicate 6 plant spaces and then waiting forever to sex them, etc and still you risk not getting any females. This spring I germinated a ton of seeds and only had 4 females, and so I threw away 8 or 10 males. There is an old school attitude that persists that somehow fems are not as good as the regs but I have yet to see it.

Well put Texas tea! I’ve finally invested in some indoor space and equipment but outdoor for me at least no space for males. I’ll take fem seeds any day as well.

Hey Tex & blondie!
Thank you for your thoughts and how they can be useful to you.
 

vermontman

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It's all genetics! if they suck, they suck
and unfortunately many big seedbanks, do a shit job of selection and preservation of parental lines for reproduction.
with your average commercial seedbank, you will get S3-S4 etc. fems and that's where the bad reputation comes from.

I grow a cut for a year straight, and stress the fuck outta it, before even considering a Fem
like I do with almost every keeper along the way, even for Reg breeding.

Also for mothers, Fems often suck because of autoflowering traits.
I don't know why, but we have that happen in the clone store a lot, that's why the menu is constantly rotated in our local industry. The oldest cuts (up to 20y) are all from Regs.

jm2c
Hello Hmong
Wow that is a major consideration and incredibly informative. I knew about the stressing of mothers to secure stability. But I never heard of the Auto traits being revealed in clone faze, HHHMNNNN very interesting. My strains are not auto either but very early to trigger for super early flowering so your statement makes me wonder if my plants would be even more prone to go auto from clones.
Definitely a major thing to consider.
Thank you for your input, these are things you dont maybe want to hear but best to be aware of for sure. What kind of percentages of clones go to Auto if you had to guess? Oh if I may? Do you work in the clone shop?
 

kaboom777

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BTW, one of my Mountain Golds from seed is already showing some white stigmas this morning, and I will double check but I'm pretty sure the lights are set to 18/6.
I have a Jamaican haze, (swami, 77jam x nl5haze) that is very capricious and with the slightest stress it starts to bloom, even with 24 hours of light, I almost lose it already 2 times for that condition, but it is worth the effort 😜
 

vermontman

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I have a Jamaican haze, (swami, 77jam x nl5haze) that is very capricious and with the slightest stress it starts to bloom, even with 24 hours of light, I almost lose it already 2 times for that condition, but it is worth the effort 😜
Interesting, is your Jamaican Haze from fem seed to start with?
 

vermontman

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BTW, one of my Mountain Golds from seed is already showing some white stigmas this morning, and I will double check but I'm pretty sure the lights are set to 18/6.
HHHMNNN That seems a bit early neither one of the parents are super early flowering especially the HA Sativa, so it seems a bit strange.
Got pics?
 

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