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Three Berries

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Leading causes of death

Children aged 1-4 years​

  • Accidents (unintentional injuries)
  • Congenital malformations, deformations and chromosomal abnormalities
  • Assault (homicide)
Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality data (2020) via CDC WONDER

Children aged 5-9 years​

  • Accidents (unintentional injuries)
  • Cancer
  • Congenital malformations, deformations and chromosomal abnormalities
Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality data (2020) via CDC WONDER

Children aged 10-14 years​

  • Accidents (unintentional injuries)
  • Intentional self-harm (suicide)
  • Cancer
Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality data (2020) via CDC WONDER

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h.h.

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States with open carry laws have more violence and that’s why they have more guns and that’s why they have more violence and that’s why they have more guns and that’s why they have more violence and that’s why they have more guns.
Perpetual sales job. There’s too many guns, so we need more…
 
h.h.

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audiohi said:
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But if we armed the kids…
 
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armedoldhippy said:
those that would commit crimes like this are cowards, and prefer not to have folks shooting back at them. i carry mine damn near everywhere (not bars nor banks), laws be fucked. accidentally carried it into my credit union a few days ago. NOT smart, they have guards there.:eek: i look at a loaded pistol like i do insurance. you hope you never need it...
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That’s why I carry a fire extinguisher everywhere I go. It really makes a lot of sense.
 
Three Berries

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Where I live I bet there is nearly one gun for every person or near it in the county, most certainly in my rural area. Almost all legal and permitted. Yet those guns are rarely violent. Maybe once or twice a year.

But if I lived in the slums of Chicago where the guns are found by the truckload dumped on the streets, things are a little different. Drive by shootings and bullets coming thought the walls seem to be that difference.

Where I live we use guns for protection/deterrent, sport or hunting game. In the slums they may be hunting game without permits.....
 
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Frosty Nuggets said:
Why do most shootings occur where there is no carrying of firearms for self defense allowed?
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That's where the easy targets are(movie theaters, sports events, concerts...etc) . Wouldn't have mattered how many people had guns on them in the Los Vegas concert shooting. Their guns would have made no difference.

1 out of 5 bullets hit their target when fired by a cop according to FBI statistics. Those bullets are fired by trained people. The Barney Fife carry and conceal permit holders are just wanna be's. Sure it's easy to hit a target at the range when ya got your ear muffs on, nice little table to put your weapon on too load, target in front of you with no distraction. Self defense seems so easy for them in this setting. Gives them the Rambo effect in their mind. The reality of being in a movie theater with tear gas going off, people fleeing in all directions, and these people think they are going to pull out their weapon and squeeze off the hero bullet is a lie that lives in their imagination.
 
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Absolem

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As each man laid there dying............. they whispered to themselves "I'm the good guy".

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WOW: 2 Concealed Carry Holders Dead In Road Rage Gunfight

WOW: 2 Concealed Carry Holders Dead In Road Rage Gunfight
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Both drivers pulled into the parking lot of a local car wash and stepped out of their vehicles, according to ABC affiliate WZZM-TV. Witnesses said the tailgating driver fired first, and the other driver returned fire.
When ambulances arrived, the men -- Ionia residents James Pullam, 43, and Robert Taylor, 56 -- were given medical care and transported to a local hospital, where they were pronounced dead, Detroit News reported.
Both men fired handguns and had valid licenses to carry concealed weapons, according to authorities, Detroit News said.
 
Petrochemical

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armedoldhippy said:
so we need someone frighteningly rich? the rich are ALL about money though. or maybe someone that lives under a bridge in a refrigerator box, and is happy doing so. (my choice) true happiness is supposedly attained by being content with what you already have. real empathy for others is alarmingly scarce among pols. (not as common among ordinary people as it should be, either) lots of them TALK a good game, but fall flat on their ass if closely examined.
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I don't think you understood my point at all judging by your response either that or you were worked up and not coming from a place you normally come from when you're dealing with me anyway what I'm saying is is it has to be somebody that doesn't want to be in politics it has to be so many that doesn't want to deal with the lobbyists crawling up their ass it's got to be somebody that only has interest in say seeing their home state not be running to the ground by special interest in urban sprawl destruction of all of native habitat and species I think that's a good start
 
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Absolem said:
That's where the easy targets are(movie theaters, sports events, concerts...etc) . Wouldn't have mattered how many people had guns on them in the Los Vegas concert shooting. Their guns would have made no difference.

1 out of 5 bullets hit their target when fired by a cop according to FBI statistics. Those bullets are fired by trained people. The Barney Fife carry and conceal permit holders are just wanna be's. Sure it's easy to hit a target at the range when ya got your ear muffs on, nice little table to put your weapon on too load, target in front of you with no distraction. Self defense seems so easy for them in this setting. Gives them the Rambo effect in their mind. The reality of being in a movie theater with tear gas going off, people fleeing in all directions, and these people think they are going to pull out their weapon and squeeze off the hero bullet is a lie that lives in their imagination.
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LV was a Globalist hit. At the time Saudi Arabia was undergoing extreme regime change and someone was mad!

Look at the targets that the narrative. Not a random shooting....

Only one reason the Left/Globalist want guns restricted is because it prevents their total totalitarian control.

And if they worried about children's health they wouldn't be brainwashing them with socialist and gender confusion while closing the schools, make them wear mask.
 
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Three Berries said:
Leading causes of death

Children aged 1-4 years​

  • Accidents (unintentional injuries)
  • Congenital malformations, deformations and chromosomal abnormalities
  • Assault (homicide)
Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality data (2020) via CDC WONDER

Children aged 5-9 years​

  • Accidents (unintentional injuries)
  • Cancer
  • Congenital malformations, deformations and chromosomal abnormalities
Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality data (2020) via CDC WONDER

Children aged 10-14 years​

  • Accidents (unintentional injuries)
  • Intentional self-harm (suicide)
  • Cancer
Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality data (2020) via CDC WONDER

FastStats

FastStats is an official application from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and puts access to topic-specific statistics at your fingertips.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov
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armedoldhippy

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Petrochemical said:
I don't think you understood my point at all judging by your response either that or you were worked up and not coming from a place you normally come from when you're dealing with me anyway what I'm saying is is it has to be somebody that doesn't want to be in politics it has to be so many that doesn't want to deal with the lobbyists crawling up their ass it's got to be somebody that only has interest in say seeing their home state not be running to the ground by special interest in urban sprawl destruction of all of native habitat and species I think that's a good start
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i believe you are right. i think i DID misunderstand your post. my apologies, Petro. 👍 THIS post of yours makes sense to me. i whiffed on the other one...mea culpa.
 
armedoldhippy

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Absolem said:
As each man laid there dying............. they whispered to themselves "I'm the good guy".

www.huffpost.com

WOW: 2 Concealed Carry Holders Dead In Road Rage Gunfight

WOW: 2 Concealed Carry Holders Dead In Road Rage Gunfight
www.huffpost.com www.huffpost.com

Both drivers pulled into the parking lot of a local car wash and stepped out of their vehicles, according to ABC affiliate WZZM-TV. Witnesses said the tailgating driver fired first, and the other driver returned fire.
When ambulances arrived, the men -- Ionia residents James Pullam, 43, and Robert Taylor, 56 -- were given medical care and transported to a local hospital, where they were pronounced dead, Detroit News reported.
Both men fired handguns and had valid licenses to carry concealed weapons, according to authorities, Detroit News said.
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both of them fucked up. first, you do not engage. second, you don't pull over. it should go without saying that a traffic dispute is not the hill you want to die on. having said that... way too many people drive under the speed limit in the wrong damn lane, probably (but not justifiably) tempting others to tailgate. i've had people say "that guy was going too fast" after telling me about some jerk driving up their ass. when i asked why they didn't pull into the right hand lane and let them go on, they said "fuck him, he can GD wait..." yeah, it was the OTHER guy that caused the "problem".:rolleyes: these folks always get mad when i suggest they get their degree & become an officer if they want to enforce traffic laws...:whistling:
 
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lots of the "studies" showing firearm related deaths etc count people in their late teens or even early twenties as "children/youths" thus including them in the aggregate simply because if they didn't their numbers would not cause the moral outrage they hoped to provoke. teenage gangbangers waving pistols are not "victims" to the majority of the populace...
 
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h.h. said:
If you write them off as "gangbangers", that changes everything.
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if they are carrying guns, selling drugs, and flashing gang signs as communication...."if it walks like a duck..." you don't get to count those who are part of the problem as victims. stop carrying pistols, quit competing for popular street corners while slinging drugs, and your odds of getting shot drop. let's just count real innocent people as victims instead of trying to drive up "body count" for maximum effect on the gullible.
 
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