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COVID-19 Boots on the ground reports, what is happening in your town?

mowood3479

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uh, which version of science you talking about, huh?

I’m talking specifically about the data that shows how the vast majority of infections are spread (within the household thru close contact of longer than an hour)
im talking about the many states and countries that have removed their mask and distancing requirements (and had the mask n vax mafia cry in outrage that their hospitals and morgues would soon be filled, that it was “Neanderthal thinking, not following the science” etc....)
Fauci, biden... all the msm experts have erroneously predicted doom on those who would defy their mandates many many times

when the data turned out instead to show a steep decline in cases and deaths... (even with the cdc repeatedly changing the cycle count for pcr tests)
sweden, Japan, florida, Texas, South Dakota all doing about the same or better than the national average in regards to infection rates, hospitalizations and deaths

we have large data sets that shows how covid spreads... and how ineffective mask mandate and closing of businesses/lockdowns is in mitigating viral spread.
it’s literal theater and nothing more

also did u guys see the article on zerohedge about how the cdc has recently posted a new reporting requirement that lowers the pcr cycle count for vaccinated people and raises it for the un vaxxed ?
(I’d love to hear their explanation for this as it seems like it’s only purpose is to deceive those not following closely)
***i haven’t seen the news anywhere else either so it’s possible that it’s Not true...


even with brazen statistical manipulations by the government this pandemic can’t be trumped up any longer....
when you look at excess mortality the picture becomes a lot clearer...
It’s one of the few statistics that is very difficult to manipulate.
 

Gry

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Forces out there that have spent a fortune on disinformation.
They have worked hard to convince people that a public health based approach will not work.

Based off what I see on this page alone, I would say their efforts appear to have been successful.
 

Gry

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Did u notice the Super Bowl didn’t seem to have a verifiable spread? That was 30,000 people in a stadium
No shortage of ludicrous claims being made and repeated.
Almost as if there is an agenda which is well organised and financed.
 

CaptainDankness

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Still waiting on this surge of covid-19 cases. They told me here it would take 2 weeks, but that was a lie. :tiphat:

Maybe Orange Man was right, " it's just going to go away." :blowbubbles:
 

packerfan79

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interesting article from the Atlantic. this guy also seems to follow the latest data rather then acting like its still April 2020 where we know nothing. stop wearing your masks out side and stop worrying about surfaces.

The Texas Mask Mystery

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ct/618942/When

the governor lifted the state’s mandate, liberals predicted disaster. But it never came. Why?
May 21, 2021

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Derek Thompson

It's amazing how the institutions were literally wrong about everything. The conspiracy theorist have a better record. Sadly.
 

gaiusmarius

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Still waiting on this surge of covid-19 cases. They told me here it would take 2 weeks, but that was a lie. :tiphat:

Maybe Orange Man was right, " it's just going to go away." :blowbubbles:

or maybe it won't go away, but we start treating it like a normal sickness which we know now how to treat better and better. instead of stop living out of fear of dieing.
 

mowood3479

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Forces out there that have spent a fortune on disinformation.
They have worked hard to convince people that a public health based approach will not work.

Based off what I see on this page alone, I would say their efforts appear to have been successful.

I respect you and am fond of you as a person but imho “public health” is bullshit. If it worked, it would have worked.. in someplace besides Lying ass china
 

gaiusmarius

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No shortage of ludicrous claims being made and repeated.
Almost as if there is an agenda which is well organised and financed.

the only well financed agenda is the one promoted by the main stream, so yeah i agree there seems to be an agenda amd as always the agenda is to make some scum bags richer using what ever opportunities present them selves. rockerfeller medicine at its absolute worst.
 

Amynamous

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the only well financed agenda is the one promoted by the main stream, so yeah i agree there seems to be an agenda amd as always the agenda is to make some scum bags richer using what ever opportunities present them selves. rockerfeller medicine at its absolute worst.

I have no idea what Rockefeller medicine is, but Murdoch’s media empire, which is by far the world’s largest, particularly in English speaking nations, has doubled down and went “all-in” with mis/dis-information from the beginning in a feeble attempt to curry favor with LOSER45. Media outlets with ties to Russia have also repeated the lies. It’s certainly been nonstop on these threads.

That said, where I’m at, life has largely returned to almost normal. Even the movie theaters have re-opened!

Edit: Also, Public Health initiatives DO work, when they are followed.
 

trichrider

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Caught Red-Handed: CDC Changes Test Thresholds for CV Cases


May 23, 2021 This article was posted by TLB Staff Analysis, GOVERNMENT, HEALTH, Tyranny 1

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Caught Red-Handed: CDC Changes Test Thresholds To Virtually Eliminate New COVID Cases Among Vaxx’d

by Kit Knightly

New policies will artificially deflate “breakthrough infections” in the vaccinated, while the old rules continue to inflate case numbers in the unvaccinated.
The US Center for Disease Control (CDC) is altering its practices of data logging and testing for “Covid19” in order to make it seem the experimental gene-therapy “vaccines” are effective at preventing the alleged disease.
They made no secret of this, announcing the policy changes on their website in late April/early May, (though naturally without admitting the fairly obvious motivation behind the change).
The trick is in their reporting of what they call “breakthrough infections” – that is people who are fully “vaccinated” against Sars-Cov-2 infection, but get infected anyway.
Essentially, Covid19 has long been shown – to those willing to pay attention – to be an entirely created pandemic narrative built on two key factors:
  1. False-positive tests. The unreliable PCR test can be manipulated into reporting a high number of false-positives by altering the cycle threshold (CT value)
  2. Inflated Case-count. The incredibly broad definition of “Covid case”, used all over the world, lists anyone who receives a positive test as a “Covid19 case”, even if they never experienced any symptoms.
Without these two policies, there would never have been an appreciable pandemic at all, and now the CDC has enacted two policy changes which means they no longer apply to vaccinated people.
Firstly, they are lowering their CT value when testing samples from suspected “breakthrough infections”.
From the CDC’s instructions for state health authorities on handling “possible breakthrough infections” (uploaded to their website in late April):
For cases with a known RT-PCR cycle threshold (Ct) value, submit only specimens with Ct value ≤28 to CDC for sequencing. (Sequencing is not feasible with higher Ct values.)​

Throughout the pandemic, CT values in excess of 35 have been the norm, with labs around the world going into the 40s.
Essentially labs were running as many cycles as necessary to achieve a positive result, despite experts warning that this was pointless (even Fauci himself said anything over 35 cycles is meaningless).
But NOW, and only for fully vaccinated people, the CDC will only accept samples achieved from 28 cycles or fewer. That can only be a deliberate decision in order to decrease the number of “breakthrough infections” being officially recorded.
Secondly, asymptomatic or mild infections will no longer be recorded as “covid cases”.
That’s right. Even if a sample collected at the low CT value of 28 can be sequenced into the virus alleged to cause Covid19, the CDC will no longer be keeping records of breakthrough infections that don’t result in hospitalisation or death.
From their website:
As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance. Previous case counts, which were last updated on April 26, 2021, are available for reference only and will not be updated moving forward.​

Just like that, being asymptomatic – or having only minor symptoms – will no longer count as a “Covid case” but only if you’ve been vaccinated.
The CDC has put new policies in place which effectively created a tiered system of diagnosis. Meaning, from now on, unvaccinated people will find it much easier to be diagnosed with Covid19 than vaccinated people.
Consider…
Person A has not been vaccinated. They test positive for Covid using a PCR test at 40 cycles and, despite having no symptoms, they are officially a “covid case”.
Person B has been vaccinated. They test positive at 28 cycles, and spend six weeks bedridden with a high fever. Because they never went into a hospital and didn’t die they are NOT a Covid case.
Person C, who was also vaccinated, did die. After weeks in hospital with a high fever and respiratory problems. Only their positive PCR test was 29 cycles, so they’re not officially a Covid case either.​

The CDC is demonstrating the beauty of having a “disease” that can appear or disappear depending on how you measure it.
To be clear: If these new policies had been the global approach to “Covid” since December 2019, there would never have been a pandemic at all.
If you apply them only to the vaccinated, but keep the old rules for the unvaccinated, the only possible result can be that the official records show “Covid” is much more prevalent among the latter than the former.
This is a policy designed to continuously inflate one number, and systematically minimise the other.
What is that if not an obvious and deliberate act of deception?
 

Gry

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I have no idea what Rockefeller medicine is, but Murdoch’s media empire, which is by far the world’s largest, particularly in English speaking nations, has doubled down and went “all-in” with mis/dis-information from the beginning in a feeble attempt to curry favor with LOSER45. Media outlets with ties to Russia have also repeated the lies. It’s certainly been nonstop on these threads.

That said, where I’m at, life has largely returned to almost normal. Even the movie theaters have re-opened!

Rockefeller medicine describes a relationship which in effect is a standard of medicine, that has been imposed by the Rockefeller's upon
the United States with the stated intent of seeing it become an international standard.
I feel like it is important to point out that this was not something that was ever voted on, or discussed, it was imposed upon us by a single
wealthy family which used deckstacking at it's finest to set up the controlling foundation.
They have set the standards for our medical schools, which resulted in MDs going from being healers to script hustlers.
One must recall that Big Pharma is the child of the oil industry, which was run and controlled by the Rockefeller family.
Currently in DC, big pharma is spending more money on lobby efforts than any other industry hands down.
They have been able to shape things legislatively, so that they benefit from Uncle Sam financing the R&D that
goes into "discovering" meds.
Then they hand off the patent to big pharma who goes on to produce and distribute the meds for profit.
Big Pharma spends more on advertising than they do R&D.
Not long ago, as in living memory for many, we had affordable healthcare here in the US.
Monthly insurance payments of like 30 bucks a month for blue cross.
They used their lobby power to evolve into what we have today,
a monstrosity that serves only it's shareholders.
Big Pharma targeted anything other than the handing out of prescriptions as if it had no value.
They have set their sites on things like: chiropractic medicine, herbalism, nutritional therapy, homeopathy.
Rockefeller medicine has stated those things are going to be eliminated.
They view medicine as just another means of extracting profit.
If one has an interest in extracting the maximum profit out of life, Rockefeller medicine would be
difficult to best. If one had an interest in seeing a population receive the most healthcare for the buck,
pubic health is where I would look.
I think well of Doctors Without Borders, and once enjoyed being able to support them.
https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/
 

Gry

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I respect you and am fond of you as a person but imho “public health” is bullshit. If it worked, it would have worked.. in someplace besides Lying ass china

Comments of that nature might be better suited for personal messages.
Public health concepts have worked everywhere they have ever been used. Everywhere.
Were that not the case, the hucksters in big pharma's board rooms would be delighted to spend endless
advertising dollars pointing out that one single exception.
 

mowood3479

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I think I have a different idea (than you) of what public health is... (perhaps I’m misinformed on the true meaning)
as far as I can tell from dr Faucis description public health is dr Fauci making edicts and the rest of us following them blindly.
But Doctors Without Borders seems like a great program....
Mandatory Lockdowns, mask mandates , the one sized fits all risk assessments stuff, the quarantine of the healthy... it doesn’t work to mitigate viral spread and causes far more harm than good. (Or at the very least it bears discussion of the harms of executive branch mandated policy/law)
to me all of that is a far far cry from the consent based work they do at Doctors Without Borders..
basically Im saying consent matters... and public health mandates should never supersede consent and bodily autonomy
 

igrowone

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I think I have a different idea (than you) of what public health is... (perhaps I’m misinformed on the true meaning)
as far as I can tell from dr Faucis description public health is dr Fauci making edicts and the rest of us following them blindly.
But Doctors Without Borders seems like a great program....
Mandatory Lockdowns, mask mandates , the one sized fits all risk assessments stuff, the quarantine of the healthy... it doesn’t work to mitigate viral spread and causes far more harm than good. (Or at the very least it bears discussion of the harms of executive branch mandated policy/law)
to me all of that is a far far cry from the consent based work they do at Doctors Without Borders..
basically Im saying consent matters... and public health mandates should never supersede consent and bodily autonomy

I don't think I've ever read anything that I would disagree with more
reminds me of patient zero of the AIDS epidemic, when asked to refrain from further sexual contacts he refused
"I know my rights ... ", I'd have had the piece of shit shot
 

imiubu

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I think I have a different idea (than you) of what public health is... (perhaps I’m misinformed on the true meaning)
as far as I can tell from dr Faucis description public health is dr Fauci making edicts and the rest of us following them blindly.
But Doctors Without Borders seems like a great program....
Mandatory Lockdowns, mask mandates , the one sized fits all risk assessments stuff, the quarantine of the healthy... it doesn’t work to mitigate viral spread and causes far more harm than good. (Or at the very least it bears discussion of the harms of executive branch mandated policy/law)
to me all of that is a far far cry from the consent based work they do at Doctors Without Borders..
basically Im saying consent matters... and public health mandates should never supersede consent and bodily autonomy

I've not read many other opinions here on this topic that I agree with more, esp. the emboldened text.
 
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