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    Originally posted by Boyd Crowder View Post
    coming along nicely , wdi

    heres my gg4 hybrids from bugman that i cant grow as good as you

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    Nice man! What cross is that? Of course you can grow like me or anybody else on here, just not in a crawlspace. That's my shit, ha. I see that you went to a HID from the LEDs too huh? Funny how shit is always evolving.

    Quick up date on my little sickly ones, they already looking better since applying the combo last night and are perking up. I was worried about potential phototoxicity that I read about but that doesn't seem to be the case here, maybe because it's just some mellow T8 fluorescent lighting instead of some HID lights.

    My gluebreath and 2.0s are coming round as well and are starting to show signs of new growth. I am very pleased to have seen these pull through, especially with my cloning track record. I'm hoping that I finally had my Ah-ha moment on this past round and will be looking forward to higher success ratios and faster turn around times in the future. Fingers crossed.
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      WDI,

      After you move your clones, how soon and how heavy do you start with your nutes?

      Just moved 3 Fruity Pebbles or Grape Ape, not sure which yet, to soil and was curious what you do.

      I also took these clones from a plant 21 days into flowering so they should monster too. Took a little longer for these to root, almost 2 weeks. But they seem to be doing well.
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        Looking stellar WTI, nice genetics, nice info., great thread.
        Gonna take a seat and enjoy the ride
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          Originally posted by snakemanOG View Post
          WDI,

          After you move your clones, how soon and how heavy do you start with your nutes?

          Just moved 3 Fruity Pebbles or Grape Ape, not sure which yet, to soil and was curious what you do.

          I also took these clones from a plant 21 days into flowering so they should monster too. Took a little longer for these to root, almost 2 weeks. But they seem to be doing well.
          I'm never too worried about hitting them right out the gate. Again, I only grow organics so I let the dirt do all the work. There is plenty of nutrients in a solo's cup worth of recycled/reamended soil to keep them fed long enough for them to get established. Plus that is a handy size to still move around and not take up too much space. After they start getting rootbound and pissed I bump them up to 1 gallon containers.

          Originally posted by hicksticky View Post
          Looking stellar WTI, nice genetics, nice info., great thread.
          Gonna take a seat and enjoy the ride
          Thanks man
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            I call it testers glue (or sniffin or huffin, depending on the mood)

            its gg4 x (early purple kush x thai x c99)

            yeah sold that led and picked up 2 more 600w hids

            leds are cool, just not for my room - im not stealth or a tent guy and honestly

            they are 3 times the price for equivalent lumens - fuck that shit
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              Originally posted by who dat is View Post
              I'm never too worried about hitting them right out the gate. Again, I only grow organics so I let the dirt do all the work. There is plenty of nutrients in a solo's cup worth of recycled/reamended soil to keep them fed long enough for them to get established. Plus that is a handy size to still move around and not take up too much space. After they start getting rootbound and pissed I bump them up to 1 gallon containers.
              Cool, thanks for the info. I started them on water for the first few days, then bumped up to light nutes and increased when I moved to larger containers.

              I love the Solo cups too, really easy to move and squeeze into small spots.

              Sometime I'd like to pick your brains a bit on organic growing. Pretty curious about it and I'm always trying to learn.

              Thanks again.
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                Originally posted by snakemanOG View Post
                Cool, thanks for the info. I started them on water for the first few days, then bumped up to light nutes and increased when I moved to larger containers.

                I love the Solo cups too, really easy to move and squeeze into small spots.

                Sometime I'd like to pick your brains a bit on organic growing. Pretty curious about it and I'm always trying to learn.

                Thanks again.
                Honestly, organics is easier and more forgiving. You don't have to be nearly as worried about over feeding them either. pH isn't an issue if you have living soil and it's nice and buffered with dolomite lime. Dive on in, the water is warrrmmmmm
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                  Originally posted by who dat is View Post
                  Honestly, organics is easier and more forgiving. You don't have to be nearly as worried about over feeding them either. pH isn't an issue if you have living soil and it's nice and buffered with dolomite lime. Dive on in, the water is warrrmmmmm
                  Cool. Any suggested reading? If I try it, I wantbto know as much as I can going in.

                  I'm trying to maintain a low profile, would be nice not having to figure out where tondispose of my empty bottles. I'm also trying to keep my cost down as much as possible.
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                    Originally posted by snakemanOG View Post
                    Cool. Any suggested reading? If I try it, I wantbto know as much as I can going in.

                    I'm trying to maintain a low profile, would be nice not having to figure out where tondispose of my empty bottles. I'm also trying to keep my cost down as much as possible.
                    I liked reading True Living Organics by The Rev. http://www.amazon.com/True-Living-Or...iving+organics

                    Take some of the stuff he writes about with a grain of salt though. Some of what he's convinced about seems more like Bro Science to me than real science.

                    Another staple is Teaming With Microbes by Jeff Lowenfels and Wayne Lewis http://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Microb...iving+organics

                    It's drier though and admittedly I didn't make it all the way through. I need to pick it back up and finish what I started.
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                      Teaming with microbes: Jeff Lowenfels, Wayne Lewis

                      Teaming with nutrients: Jeff Lowenfels

                      Permaculture a designers manual: Bill Mollison

                      Encyclopedia of Soil Science: Springer

                      Rodale's Ultimate encyclopedia of organic gardening

                      ... and logicalgardener.org

                      Guide to Beneficial Insects
                      The Terpenes of Cannabis Their Aromas and Effects

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                        i third the organic/living soil method - the teaming with microbes tome changed my whole thought process
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                          Muthahfuckin' *BOOM*! The knowledge bomb just got dropped. Thanks for the links Seafour.
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                            Originally posted by who dat is View Post
                            Muthahfuckin' *BOOM*! The knowledge bomb just got dropped. Thanks for the links Seafour.
                            Thanks for the links guys. I sppreciate it. Going to be doing some serious reading I can see, lol.

                            It would really be nice not having to mess with nutes any more. I spend way too much time mixing and then pHing. I mean, I can and do mix enough for 3-4 days at a time. But when you have plants on slightly different schedules you sometimes have to mix for specific plants and that's a huge pain in the ass. Not to mention that I really don't want to be smoking any chemicals if I can avoid it.
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                              almost anyone grows it better than me but I was still impressed. I wish you all great luck with the Glue!
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                                uhh?
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