Yayyy! My first colloidal silver generator (photo)

[jump117]

Add few drops of dish shampoo into cs spray to improve wettability
and up pH, that is good for ions activity as scientists say.

Spray mostly at the places of branching where flowers will appear, save fan leaves from spray.
When solution dries it leaves silver metal and oxide film that may hurt plant aspiration.
This film looks bronze.

CS kills bacteria, it does not matter to inorganic hydroponics, but hurts the organic soil.
Cover the soil from CS drops.

 

[Buddaluva]

How do you think using the c.s on autos would work ?

I would like to try it out on some of my autos but since they stay on veggin hours idk how it would work out

Most autos normally start sexing after 3 weeks so would i just start spraying at 2 weeks ?

 

[jump117]

I know autos are special, sorry I'm inexperienced with them.

 

[hisser]

How do you think using the c.s on autos would work ?

I would like to try it out on some of my autos but since they stay on veggin hours idk how it would work out

Most autos normally start sexing after 3 weeks so would i just start spraying at 2 weeks ?

I tried reversing a Sour 60 AF but all I got were empty sacks, and there were lots of them. But I doubt you can be sure from 1 female only... maybe this happens too sometimes with 12/12 strains?

 

[Buddaluva]

Been spraying twice a day for 3 days now

She looks like shit for sure ( Is the the norm when spraying with c.s ? )

I know you said not to get the c.s on the fan leaves but with her being small like she is it just happens

Also i was re reading the original 1st post and it said to completely soak the whole plant in it

But this is day 3 and just looks like shit

 

[jump117]

Also i was re reading the original 1st post and it said to completely soak the whole plant in it

Let's not argue with the first post, and see with your own eyes. Here are a couple of pictures.



In the first picture you can see a layer of bronze color that remains after drying a solution of CS.
In the second picture the treated leaves with the same coating.

Colloidal particles are much larger than ions.
Many of them, if not all, do not get inside the plant, and remain on the surface, forming a coating.

It's pretty dense substance consisting of particles of metallic silver and its oxide, which apparently may prevents aspiration.

 

[Buddaluva]

Thanks jump

I will do another single grow and wait for the plant to be a little bigger so i can avoid getting it on the fan leaves

In the meantime do you think it will still work even though the c.s has gotten on the fan leaves ?

I hoping it will still work , looking at your pic it looks like your leaves was curling around like mine are starting to do so im hoping for the best

 

[jump117]

so im hoping for the best

Me too! Mine also were curling and looked not healthy like under heavy nitrogen overdose but stayed alive.

Hold on and don't give up!

 

[Buddaluva]

Thanks jump

you have been a big help

 

[jump117]

MY SILVER BETTER THAN YERZ
AND GOT SEKSY LAIDI INGRAVEATED

Design "Horn of Plenty" is SEKSY?
If so, I have a pure porn.

Serial number is covered for ethical reasons,
as the most obscene part of design.

Zo0t, It will be pity to dissolve such beauty.
And the more pity to cut it in half, if you bought one.

"Horn of Plenty" can be saved from cutting, if you make it the central anode (+),
fixed by the middle of glass lid on a small pan of stainless steel, which is the cathode (-).

With this design you might be interested to experiment with 220V DC, which you asked earlier.

IF I USE 220VOLTS WOULD IT SPEED UP DA PROCESS ????

Interesting discoveries await you.

 

[PhenoMenal]

A LOT of EXCELLENT points made by jump117 in the last couple of pages, thanks to his research and more importantly testing - i take my hat off!!!

I also want to echo jump's words here ... "Mine also were curling and looked not healthy like under heavy nitrogen overdose but stayed alive. Hold on and don't give up!"

He's spot on... they certainly won't look pretty after a week or so of CS, sometimes look like they're dying, but we're after feminised pollen, not buds, and pollen forms very quickly anyway (just a few weeks, as opposed to eight or more weeks for buds), so just keep spraying and be patient

I don't know exactly what the physical distress that a plant goes through from colloidal silver "poisoning", but the plants generally don't like it! I feel that if you ever apply CS or STS or GA etc to to a plant to produce femme pollen then you should just write that plant off and treat it as sacrificial, ie. dont bother trying to get smokeable buds off it, just use it exclusively to try to get femme pollen.

The resulting dozens/hundreds of feminised seeds you can make as a result easily make up for this sacrifice of 1 female plant

 

[noreason]

Yesterday I started the generator with a used 9v battery, .999 silver and cheap ''distilled'' water.

After some minutes I already saw reaction.Grey ''dust'' start to fall down to the bottom of the jar.

Unfortunately I can't read ppm.

After 18 hours the solution was opaque grey:

At this point my EC meter can read only 0,0 mS/cm. So there is no difference for my meter, it can't read low values.

However I decided to throw away the solution mainly for one reason. Because the ''distilled'' water I bought clearly smell of some kind of detergent, soap.

I went to bought a purer water at the pharmacy. No smell at all.

I repeated the process exactly the same and after some hours the water is crystal clear. No visible reaction.

I change the 9v battery with a 12V 1000mA adapter. Nothing, the water is still clear and nothing seems happened.

What is happening? What's going wrong or right?

 

[jump117]

Very slow start confirms the purity of your water, lack of electrical conductivity at 0ppm.

Subsequent launches will go more quickly when some previous solution can be added to pure water.

Process will accelerate with increasing voltage and temperature and decreasing the distance between the electrodes.

Milky cloud in the first attempt is insoluble in water AgCl, in result of reaction between Ag+ ions and Cl- that was present in water.

The same reaction uses to test CS by adding kitchen salt (NaCl), no milky cloud means no Ag+ in solution.

 

[jump117]

A LOT of EXCELLENT points made by jump117 in the last couple of pages, thanks to his research and more importantly testing - i take my hat off!!!

Thank you!

 

[noreason]

Well guys, Jump is simply a ''well of knowledge'' ! I have to say thanks for one more time. I'm learning a lot of things from you man.

Very slow start confirms the purity of your water, lack of electrical conductivity at 0ppm.

This makes perfect sense!

Subsequent launches will go more quickly when some previous solution can be added to pure water.

Nice trick, thanks!

Milky cloud in the first attempt is insoluble in water AgCl, in result of reaction between Ag+ ions and Cl- that was present in water.

Sound strange in the water were CL- ions, but it actually is.
And I think there were not so few considering the color of solution after only 18 hours with a 9 volts battery.

To confirm that cheap distilled water was contaminated, I took a little of new clear solution with Ag+ in it and mixed with cheap water. After a minute the reaction was visible:

The same reaction uses to test CS by adding kitchen salt (NaCl), no milky cloud means no Ag+ in solution.

Today are passed more than 12 hours from the moment I started 12V 1000mA adapter and purified water generator.

The solution is still clear, but I can clearly see reaction on the silver bar.

I can also see a little brown/grey dust falling down coming from both bars.

I took some solution (transparent- no color) and add few NaCl in it. Stirred for few seconds. Let it sit for a minute and then I can clearly see the reaction forming AgCl. The solution looks a little milky, it's not anymore crystal clear as in the next picture.

On the left Ag+ solution with added NaCl. On the right a control with only purified water with NaCl.

At this point my meter still read 0,0 mS/cm. Should I wait till 0,1 read? or give more 24 hours to go and than spray, 0,1 or not, or whatever?

 

[jump117]

At this point my meter still read 0,0 mS/cm. Should I wait till 0,1 read? or give more 24 hours to go and than spray, 0,1 or not, or whatever?

Unfortunately it is clear that the accuracy of your instrument is not sufficient.
Even at 48ppm and a conversion factor of 0.5, EC is less than 0.1 mS/cm, and the unit still shows 0,0.

I can clearly see reaction on the silver bar.


I can also see a little brown/grey dust falling down coming from both bars.

This is metallic silver and its oxide in the form of a fine powder.
If left the electrolysis process unattended, the amount of sediment will increase over time,
but the concentration of ions will remain stable, not to exceed a threshold of about 30ppm.

In order to avoid this phenomenon of self-extinguishing of the ionization process, do the following.
First you need to clear the electrodes, washing from them right to the solution.
Secondly you need to clear solution from the suspension and sediment.

Easier and faster just to filter out the solution through a paper coffee filter.
More delicate cleaning procedure takes more time, but will keep the fine-dispersed silver.

This powder is not needed for feminization, but can be used as medicine. But it is a little away from the topic.

 

[noreason]

Unfortunately it is clear that the accuracy of your instrument is not sufficient.
Even at 48ppm and a conversion factor of 0.5, EC is less than 0.1 mS/cm, and the unit still shows 0,0.

At now the reading is still 0,0. I let the generator on for some more hours and that's it,ready for the go, even if the read is still the same.

However the NaCl trick is telling me that even if the solution is clear, Ag+ is present.

The solution has take something yellow, it's not as the starting water.

This is metallic silver and its oxide in the form of a fine powder.
If left the electrolysis process unattended, the amount of sediment will increase over time,
but the concentration of ions will remain stable, not to exceed a threshold of about 30ppm.

Exactly what you told. I clean silver bars every couple of hours.

What about 30 ppm threshold? Can't the Ag+ go into solution easily after a point?
Btw, is there any solution? or Ag+ remains in suspension?

In order to avoid this phenomenon of self-extinguishing of the ionization process, do the following.
First you need to clear the electrodes, washing from them right to the solution.
Secondly you need to clear solution from the suspension and sediment.

Easier and faster just to filter out the solution through a paper coffee filter.
More delicate cleaning procedure takes more time, but will keep the fine-dispersed silver.

Already did a filtering with coffee paper to remove everything possible. I'll do one more in the end.

I'll post some more shots of finished solution soon

 

[noreason]

Colloidal silver suspension is ready to go.
My meter is definitely out of game with making CS, Ec value is 0,0, however I think the generator run enough time to do the job.

Let's share some picture...

Silver deposits after a night (I noticed as jump said the more the generator runs less time is required to form deposits)

And after breaking those deposits in the water it look like this

 

[noreason]

After filtering residues the CS had an light opaque yellow color, with a lot of suspension in it

And a last try with NaCl. White solution is CS, the other is water, both with added NaCl in the same quantity.

With flashlight

Without flashlight

 

[HighBurn8]

sorry, dont mean to rip this thread but i have a quick question for you guys. so I received a 32oz. Glass bottle of Kornax Colloidal Silver that is 400ppm from a friend mine...

How much should I dilute this stuff?
I know 400ppm is pretty potent from what i've been reading.

thanks in advance~