It's this simple - a small, rich cabal spends the necessary money to buy the system. It just happens to go against the rest of our interests.
I support the protesters but not the violence, vandalism and theft. A few bad apples give the whole idea a black eye.
OWS are just a bunch of anarchist, communist thugs that need to go away. As for any body still endorsing these groups........maybe they are just as crazy as the people in the streets lighting flags on fire.
this comment is very ignorant and you do not understand the problem. Nobody is rooting for communism. They are there to combat the global corporatism that has stolen our democracy and destroyed our capitalist economy.
Corporatism is just a form of Fascism.
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini
Except half the tea party does not understand the constitution because they think they should Christianize the government and make the drug war even more harsh.
Basically both of them are full of angry stupid people that are clouding the big picture. Our Democracy is broken. we need a constitutional convention, but that in it's self may trigger a civil war.
Relax everybody...take a deep breath.
Change is coming anyway, whether anyone likes it or not.
The economic oxygen is being sucked out of the atmosphere by a global tornado of debt. The Fed , IMF and ECB are busy sticking toothpicks up the ass of hollowed out straw-man banks and their broke-ass client nations in a last ditch effort to prop them up.
In the end it's only paper anyway, but the problem really lies in the fact that even healthy sensible, productive companies rely on that paper as well. When their production suffers then scarcity will create a stagflation with price increases without growth.
The worst of both worlds.
The whole thing is gonna crash but this time it will take decades to recover because the wise, all-knowing Govt. has us to bankroll this entire mess. Taxpayers get the delightful task of being the teenage enema nurse to an engorged terminally ill patient.
Maybe the lost generation will learn the lesson that thin air 'money' fractional banking is a doomed enterprise that can only last so long before it implodes.
lol, you have NO FUCKING CLUE GP73LPC......How's it feel when somebody says that to you?
You support a movement you don't understand one bit. You just can't condone a movement but not it's violence when they are perpetuated by the cause of the movement. I will repeat this again, they have MURDERS, RAPES, Racists, Thiefs. That is the movement whether you get it or not. That is like saying I like Snoop Dog but think all his songs about drugs and bitches are not good. What does that leave left of Snoop Dog? Just like OWS, take away their violence and what exactly is the message?
Your so in tune with all this, why don't you give us OWS message. Please do.
Keep in mind they have now
Thrown condoms at Catholic school girls
Have murders
Have rapes (not to mention they claim they are taking care of those issues in house, with out the law. In other words, if you get rapped be quite because it effects the movement.)
Closed down NYC subway
Closed Oakland docs
Ran sacked Oakland City hall.
Had OWS yelling at Jews to go home
Vandalize the biggest jewish settlement in NYC and the USA with antisemitism vandalism.
But let me guess, this is just a small number of the group. More than 1,500 arrests in the OWS moment. Small number huh????????
Anybody have the figures on how many people got arrested during the Tea Party Movements? O that's right, ZERO!!!!!
Please give me the answer to what they are trying to achieve when all they do is destroy and effect the 99%, not the 1%.
And I am clueless, lol. Just patiently awaiting this answer. Please answer all questions, unless you can't or don't have a clue. Also, maybe you could tell me what part of my comment was wrong and how........
the movement is not about a few thugs that have obviously been in the crowd. i have seen plenty of interviews with some very clean, intelligent, educated people in that group.
you sound like newt gingrich... 'go get a job, but take a shower first...' i am sure a lot of those people wish they could get a job in todays economy...
you opinion is laughable to me. you think everyone involved in the movement is a criminal, which could not be further from the truth. and if you were paying attention i said i DID NOT CONDONE the violence... and of the 1500 arrested how many committed violence and how many were just disobeying authority...
as far as shutting down the subway or or the Oakland docks... Boohoo... that's fucking terrible isn't it..., lol !!! it's called civil disobedience and sometimes you gotta get the motherfuckers attention that are in charge. The 1% control the world and the world is about fed up with their bullshit laws where they always prosper, but a college grad today can't get a job.
i mean let's face it... look at elections. whoever has the most money wins, so in reality the rich motherfuckers in the world decides who gets elected. we live in a SICK, FUCKING GREEEDY society.
now i would like to keep the conversation civil and i am sorry you took offense to my comment. don't take the world(internet) so seriously... and if you wanna get ugly, bring it, i can get ugly with the best of them...
btw, Snoop Dogg's music sucks IMO...
peace
GP73LPC - you failed to answer almost all my questions. Shows you have no answers. The only answer you could muster up is how me saying you don't know anything makes you feel. How about answering some questions about the conversation we are having.
Now, if you want to continue the conversation, please answer all my questions from two posts ago, until then, I have to believe you are the one without a clue.
lol, you have NO FUCKING CLUE GP73LPC......How's it feel when somebody says that to you?
You support a movement you don't understand one bit. You just can't condone a movement but not it's violence when they are perpetuated by the cause of the movement. I will repeat this again, they have MURDERS, RAPES, Racists, Thiefs. That is the movement whether you get it or not. That is like saying I like Snoop Dog but think all his songs about drugs and bitches are not good. What does that leave left of Snoop Dog? Just like OWS, take away their violence and what exactly is the message?
Your so in tune with all this, why don't you give us OWS message. Please do.
Keep in mind they have now
Thrown condoms at Catholic school girls
Have murders
Have rapes (not to mention they claim they are taking care of those issues in house, with out the law. In other words, if you get rapped be quite because it effects the movement.)
Closed down NYC subway
Closed Oakland docs
Ran sacked Oakland City hall.
Had OWS yelling at Jews to go home
Vandalize the biggest jewish settlement in NYC and the USA with antisemitism vandalism.
But let me guess, this is just a small number of the group. More than 1,500 arrests in the OWS moment. Small number huh????????
Anybody have the figures on how many people got arrested during the Tea Party Movements? O that's right, ZERO!!!!!
Please give me the answer to what they are trying to achieve when all they do is destroy and effect the 99%, not the 1%.
And I am clueless, lol. Just patiently awaiting this answer. Please answer all questions, unless you can't or don't have a clue. Also, maybe you could tell me what part of my comment was wrong and how........
I believe in not backing a group of thugs, no matter how peaceful they TALK! Talk is cheap, but words and actions show everything. I believe the OWS movement has millions of supporters, and they only have 1500 arrests, i get it. However, when you have the group, and their leaders, talking about bringing city's to their knees by racking up huge debts by creating horrible messes. Who will pay for all the clean up????? O yea, the people with jobs. SNAP!
Also if you could read, one letter in front of the other, making words, then sentences. I said and quote, "You just can't condone a movement but not it's violence when they are perpetuated by the cause of the movement." Get it now? If not, remember, letters make words, words make sentences, sentences make statements.
You guys have to understand I agree with the OWS "said" movement.
simmer down and stop hating on each other. use that energy to educate people about how they are living in Corporatism and not capitalism. educate them on how communism is not the answer to fix corporatism. taking the money out of government and going back to a true capitalist system is how to fix America.
When government is large and powerful in the market then corporations want to buy that power. when it is small and can do nothing for your corporation negative or positive then there is no appeal to buy it. Problem solved. Small government, not for sale. easier to hold people accountable as well
Ok, got it now, except the "the Palestinian Holocaust victims".Ye I posted a rough draft; check the edit.
Elsweeto;4929 Tell me about these great goods youv'e done? [/QUOTE said:Strait up, without the United States, many countries could not feed themselves. We subsidize the worlds crops. Right now farmers in Mexico can't produce corn at the same price as the US sells it to the rest of the world. That price is helped out by the tax payers in the United States. (even the very rich) We give about $30,000,000,000 a year in foreign aid. Face it, if that 30 billion dollars went away, a lot of countries would have a very hard time.
Think about it, when a huge earth quake or natural disaster happens, who has their check books open at all times? America.
Not to mention the Western way of life that America has spread through the world. I know some points of view would think that is a bad thing. However, freedom is hard to come by in history. Experts have estimated that 25 billion people have lived on the Earth. Only 5% of those 25 billion people are believe to have freedom during their life. Freedom is not the rule, but the exception. America spreads freedom. ( I know it's not perfect, but talk to people women in the middle east about freedom)
Another thing, how about helping stopping Germany from taking over the world.
Ireland for instance gives more per capita then any other nation on earth to charitable causes so allowing for scale...
That is awesome. I did not know that, thank you.
Where does the vast bulk of the blessed U.S money go?
Oh Yeah that's right Isreal, and what is the Israeli government perpetrating on the Palestinian People? military attacks, sanctions on medical goods, ghettoising communities, denying education; food, water, I'd say it amounts to a Holocaust.
Most countries do less bad it would take to long to list them
Dude, show me hard facts on these claims. Start with "ghettoising" communities and denying education and food and water. Other wise it is bull shit. You really think Israel is at fault, and not "Palestinians" at all? That is a another argument, but lets just agree to disagree.
BTW - you are very very wrong about Israel being where the most foreign aid goes to. They are not even in the top 20. Where did you pretend to pull that fact up? Maybe the same place you pulled out "Isreali government perpetrating on the Palestinian People? military attacks, sanctions on medical goods, ghettoising communities, denying education; food, water, I'd say it amounts to a Holocaust."
Here is a link to show what the US foreign aid is and how much is given to who. Please read so you can stop spreading lies.
Comparing the war between Israel and Palestinians, and the Holocaust is disgusting.