Why I'm Urging People to Vote FOR the AUMA in Cali

[weedaholic721]

Colorado legalization saved me from the fear of going to jail for a gram of weed. I am from Virginia, it's another world compared to here. I have been harassed by neighbors over the slightest smell of smoked cannabis, them calling the cops and getting other really good people busted. I have been robbed at gunpoint just being at a dealers house at the wrong time. I have watched upstanding members of society labelled as gangmembers, just because they have friends that also smoke cannabis.

I understand California has it pretty good under current laws but people are still being busted there, we have to fight for small personal use first.

Noncannabis users are also voting for these laws. Do you really think people who are on the fence are going to consider large amounts safe, or what about your local government being afraid of federal retribution for a local deciding to take advantage and ship mass amounts across state lines?

We not convincing other users of cannabis, we are convincing those who do not understand this plant at all and have lived under reefer madness. They are changing their opinions but it's not going to happen over night.

Having protections for small personal users is the first step towards normalization. More freedom will come as people see the sky hasn't fallen. In places like Virgina, there are ALOT OF people who know nothing of legal states. They don't know you can buy it in stores, shit most do not know DC is legal when Virginia is literally touching it.

Western States seem to live in a sort of bubble when it comes to cannabis from my experience. There are many in the southern east coast who have it bad, just trying to access the plant, let alone leading a double life and avoiding jail.

 

[DJM]

since when did a step in the wrong direction become good just because its a step? people who trust things will progress better after a bad step forward are clearly naive , dont follow history and have far too much trust in the system. once you open pandoras box you cant close it again...funny how the only people that think its great in colorado are only 20 something personal smokers with a plant or two in their backyard, growers who have sold out to work in corporate ran warehouses and shop owners. try talking to some caregivers who were there before legalization, that built this industry, then talk to their patients. youll get a far different impression . some people obviously like to be pissed on and told its raining instead of doing something about getting pissed on

 

[weedaholic721]

Never said it was great, there are negatives, but when compared to living in a completely illegal state, it is much better here. Talk about getting pissed on, the illegal states are getting drenched. It's apples and oranges for me from someone who has spent the last fifteen years in a real prohibition state.

 

[rolandomota]

Meanwhile in half the USA people are still going to jail for any amount. The big boys already saw how much more money can be made if it's legal they are ready to pounce on the new market. Win or lose either way I don't give a Fuck it ain't my state my stupid state is still debating wether to legalize 6 plants for medical! The bull shit cbd law passed but the docs can't prescribe it politicians need to rewrite the law to say "recommend" cbd oil. And our gov. Says he won't sign any legalization law not medical whole plant use or decriminalization of an ounce. Texas has no voter initiatives and the assholes in charge of getting these laws voted on by the house and Senate don't even bother in voting for them in their commites. I saw people testify for medical mj for hours and the people in charge did not vote! The chairman was like "we will vote but at a later date please hurry we all want to get home"....it was midnight. They seemed more annoyed than compassionate and sure enough the idiot chairwoman never scheduled a vote what a bitch.

This time in 2017 the same shit will happen guaranteed....if somehow this new group of senators does get the bill to the house and Senate it will either a) not be scheduled for a vote b)voted against or c) if it passes the piece of shit governor won't sign it so maybe in 2019 when maybe a new governor is in place Lmao yea right. It's not like weeds ever going away especially here next to Mexico. The only time the government has passed a medical mj law is because they didn't want the better written voter initiative passed so this really makes me sad. My state will never relax it's crazy weed laws ever. Cbd doesn't count

 

[trippn]

The Feds give ZERO FUCKS about states rights/momentum.

They just announced last week that cannabis will remain a SCHEDULE 1 NARCOTIC.... right next to some of the most toxic chemicals known to man.

It's all bullshit. DEA will never give up that sweet sweet asset forfeiture money. 49 states will have legal cannabis and the POTUS will still be moaning about 'needs more research.."

Perfect response my friend.
We will all die old men before the government treats us with respect & equality .
What we want; we must take for ourselves.
They have proclaimed themselves our eternal enemy. Time for other states to start fighting as well .

 

[who dat is]

Hey OP, where you at? How you gonna stir up a hornets nest and then walk away?

 

[packerfan79]

Op is a troll

 

[krunchbubble]

Never said it was great, there are negatives, but when compared to living in a completely illegal state, it is much better here. Talk about getting pissed on, the illegal states are getting drenched. It's apples and oranges for me from someone who has spent the last fifteen years in a real prohibition state.

We arent talking about other states, we are talking about a semi legal marijuana state who already decriminalized marijuana...

 

[Betterhaff]

Apples, Oranges, Watermelons. We don’t grow Oranges here. Did you know the fishing cats of SE Asia are having a tough time?

 

[trippn]

" Thanks for outline of AUMA’s subversive assault on the rights of patients and the integrity of Proposition 215. For 60 years the Federal Government posited and pursued their unilateral assertion they it is/was the sole proprietary owner of all things cannabis. In the face of the big lie perpetrated through the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act passed in the service of the emerging pharmaceutical industry, tens of thousands of seriously ill Americans were denied access to marijuana’s profound medical benefits and allowed to suffer and die unnecessarily by a government that knew better.

As a result of their intransigence, in 1996, the people of California decisively rejected the U.S. Government’s self-declared sole ownership and life-threatening restrictions on the medical use of cannabis, affirming the proprietary rights of patients and their designated caregivers to obtain, possess, cultivate, and process cannabis (from seed to smoke) for their own self-care and personal medical use.

Proposition 215’s total of 274 words were simple and direct in challenging the now 80 year old lie on which which the massive marijuana prohibition industry killed thousands of our fellow citizens through its criminal indifference,. deliberate marginalization of millions of otherwise law abiding citizens through judicial and economic sanctions and mass incarceration, building the largest for profit prison system in the world through its morally corrupt War of Drugs.

Those who claim to support the interests of medical marijuana patients and responsible adult users, yet who stand in alliance with the agents of deceit and death who have profited for the last eight decades from the abject denial of cannabis/hemp/marijuana as a valuable and life-sustaining natural resource betray not only their own integrity but also endanger the joint responsibility we all share for the good stewardship and preservation of a botanical miracle that has serve humanity well for over 10,000,without the genetically modified witchery of Monsanto / Dow / Bayer and their dot.com billionaire proteges.

You can’t legalize marijuana by re-branding the war on drugs, undermining hard won protections for the most critically ill, enhancing criminal and civil penalties in defiance of current decrim standards, and surrendering to the same corporate forces who brought us prohibition in the first place and who now seek to dispossess the people of California of their constitutionally protected proprietary rights of patients affirmed by the voters.

The AUMA is the wrong answer, to the wrong question, by the wrong people, for the wrong reasons. "

author : Scott T, Imler
Co-author, Proposition 215
Founder, Los Angeles Cannabis Resource Center (So Cal’s first patient-based cooperative cultivation project)

 

[Sforza]

Fuck corporate, it is the tool of tyrants.

Says the hippie typing on his smartphone or computer produced by a corporation, running on electricity produced by generators made by a corporation, over copper wire mined by a corporation, smelted by a corporation, and drawn by a corporation. etc., etc., etc.

 

[z-ro]

This bill is essentially DOA

 

[geneva_sativa]

" Thanks for outline of AUMA’s subversive assault on the rights of patients and the integrity of Proposition 215. For 60 years the Federal Government posited and pursued their unilateral assertion they it is/was the sole proprietary owner of all things cannabis. In the face of the big lie perpetrated through the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act passed in the service of the emerging pharmaceutical industry, tens of thousands of seriously ill Americans were denied access to marijuana’s profound medical benefits and allowed to suffer and die unnecessarily by a government that knew better.

As a result of their intransigence, in 1996, the people of California decisively rejected the U.S. Government’s self-declared sole ownership and life-threatening restrictions on the medical use of cannabis, affirming the proprietary rights of patients and their designated caregivers to obtain, possess, cultivate, and process cannabis (from seed to smoke) for their own self-care and personal medical use.

Proposition 215’s total of 274 words were simple and direct in challenging the now 80 year old lie on which which the massive marijuana prohibition industry killed thousands of our fellow citizens through its criminal indifference,. deliberate marginalization of millions of otherwise law abiding citizens through judicial and economic sanctions and mass incarceration, building the largest for profit prison system in the world through its morally corrupt War of Drugs.

Those who claim to support the interests of medical marijuana patients and responsible adult users, yet who stand in alliance with the agents of deceit and death who have profited for the last eight decades from the abject denial of cannabis/hemp/marijuana as a valuable and life-sustaining natural resource betray not only their own integrity but also endanger the joint responsibility we all share for the good stewardship and preservation of a botanical miracle that has serve humanity well for over 10,000,without the genetically modified witchery of Monsanto / Dow / Bayer and their dot.com billionaire proteges.

You can’t legalize marijuana by re-branding the war on drugs, undermining hard won protections for the most critically ill, enhancing criminal and civil penalties in defiance of current decrim standards, and surrendering to the same corporate forces who brought us prohibition in the first place and who now seek to dispossess the people of California of their constitutionally protected proprietary rights of patients affirmed by the voters.

The AUMA is the wrong answer, to the wrong question, by the wrong people, for the wrong reasons. "

author : Scott T, Imler
Co-author, Proposition 215
Founder, Los Angeles Cannabis Resource Center (So Cal’s first patient-based cooperative cultivation project)

Lots of crucial points in that piece.

I posted this in the other thread, am reposting here.

Really can't stand to see schmucks trying to dictate to people with medical conditions how much they can grow or have in their possession. . .

such as lowering plant counts and amounts allowed to have on hand for people that use topically, orally, and breed their own for specific traits.

I think anyone should be able to grow and freely enjoy their herbs, but to see states shit all over the medical community in order to secure the market is really disgusting to watch.

Sure you can buy it from whoever the fuck ends up being sanctified to sell, maybe even at a 25% discount (but who knows what the fuck was used in the process of grow, drying, etc) and some folks with compromised immune system or liver cant risk that.

And the cost is astronomical and not feasible for many with medical needs, and is laughable when compared to the freedoms they had before.

Anyway, it is a sad state of affairs to see our community getting divided over rights that we all should be able enjoy as we see fit, and not by just a few that have been granted privilege for the purpose of controlling the market.

 

[_tessarecting]

Scott T Imler FTW

 

[Betterhaff]

Who were the last 2 presidents to get impeached? Nixon lied _

 

[Betterhaff]

This story goes back some years. Working for a company in the bay area one found out he had lung cancer. Cannabis pulled him thru. As cliche as eat a peach may sound we smoked it thru an apple.

edit: Smoking thru an apple may sound like an old hippie trick. But for him it worked. I saw the x's and scans

 

[Lyfespan]

" Thanks for outline of AUMA’s subversive assault on the rights of patients and the integrity of Proposition 215. For 60 years the Federal Government posited and pursued their unilateral assertion they it is/was the sole proprietary owner of all things cannabis. In the face of the big lie perpetrated through the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act passed in the service of the emerging pharmaceutical industry, tens of thousands of seriously ill Americans were denied access to marijuana’s profound medical benefits and allowed to suffer and die unnecessarily by a government that knew better.

As a result of their intransigence, in 1996, the people of California decisively rejected the U.S. Government’s self-declared sole ownership and life-threatening restrictions on the medical use of cannabis, affirming the proprietary rights of patients and their designated caregivers to obtain, possess, cultivate, and process cannabis (from seed to smoke) for their own self-care and personal medical use.

Proposition 215’s total of 274 words were simple and direct in challenging the now 80 year old lie on which which the massive marijuana prohibition industry killed thousands of our fellow citizens through its criminal indifference,. deliberate marginalization of millions of otherwise law abiding citizens through judicial and economic sanctions and mass incarceration, building the largest for profit prison system in the world through its morally corrupt War of Drugs.

Those who claim to support the interests of medical marijuana patients and responsible adult users, yet who stand in alliance with the agents of deceit and death who have profited for the last eight decades from the abject denial of cannabis/hemp/marijuana as a valuable and life-sustaining natural resource betray not only their own integrity but also endanger the joint responsibility we all share for the good stewardship and preservation of a botanical miracle that has serve humanity well for over 10,000,without the genetically modified witchery of Monsanto / Dow / Bayer and their dot.com billionaire proteges.

You can’t legalize marijuana by re-branding the war on drugs, undermining hard won protections for the most critically ill, enhancing criminal and civil penalties in defiance of current decrim standards, and surrendering to the same corporate forces who brought us prohibition in the first place and who now seek to dispossess the people of California of their constitutionally protected proprietary rights of patients affirmed by the voters.

The AUMA is the wrong answer, to the wrong question, by the wrong people, for the wrong reasons. "

author : Scott T, Imler
Co-author, Proposition 215
Founder, Los Angeles Cannabis Resource Center (So Cal’s first patient-based cooperative cultivation project)

people better understand "wag the dog" on amau. be sure to tell your friends not to be fooled when it comes to the facts.

BTW the marijuana tax act was a global decision. so what are signs like holland changing their views and laws on mmj to be interpreted as

 

[Galaxy420]

"At least if this passes, (ANYTHING friggin passes) the rest of the nation is going to follow. They're stupid that way "

I constantly see this argument get brought up; and it is just simply ridiculous.

No other state will do anything for themselves; unless they do it for themselves... .just like Cali did. This entire movement is about spitting in the feds face; as individual states. This entire movement is about States Rights asserting their dominance over the corrupt FED; individually.

When California actually legalizes; it will be due to a large enough informed; highly liberal majority.... unless OTHER states work hard enough to achieve the same like minded populace; California legalizing Cannabis; will help other states zero.

This is not national movement; it has always been a local one. It is the only way we will beat the fed. Our nation is too large to be subject to the same bureaucracy.

it's more about the rest of the nation accepting cannabis more once a large State like California legalizes. acceptance from more people(States) is good, and most of those people will not care of the legal detail ramifications just that it is legal ...

 

[weedaholic721]

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[packerfan79]

it's more about the rest of the nation accepting cannabis more once a large State like California legalizes. acceptance from more people(States) is good, and most of those people will not care of the legal detail ramifications just that it is legal ...

If the rest of the country wants what the outlaws in California have brought out of the shadows. Follow suit, California only got medical because people defied an unjust law. Norcal put California cannabis on the map. Growers have been at this fight for 40 years. You would have us stuck with a shit legalization law so your state will follow suit. If you want your state to follow suit, fight the unjust law. Californians did it why won't you. If you believe in it do something. Don't ask Californians to fuck our selves so you can someday get a fucked legalization to.