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Who's working on C99?
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mr soul
mr soul
info from the original breeder of c99, copy/paste
Genius is the sister of Princess. Both seeds came from the same bud.
=Princess was obtained from growing out seeds found in buds of Jack Herer that was purchased in Amsterdam at the "Sensi-Smile" coffee shop, an authorized outlet of Sensi Seed Bank. Thus, it is considered to be an f2 generation Jack Herer. The seeds were found only in the deepest part of the buds indicating that the father was an unusually early-maturing JH that the growers missed at first. MrSoul
MrSoul
Cinderella Story
I've been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the "Cinderella Story", so here it is:
In 1997, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ "Sensi Smile" coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn't expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call "Princess".
Therefore Princess' mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant.
I also got 2 more females (Genius & Cafe'Girl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process.
The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is "Cinderella 99", a cubed version of Princess.
The name "Cinderella" was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning. It's also VERY similar to the story of the "Morgan Horse"...go Figure
MrSoul
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Registered: Dec 1999
Location:
Posts: 1224
Anyone who knows me knows I have kept Princess to myself and have NEVER sent anyone a clone.
You've made the colossal mistake of claiming you "own Princess", a strain that's never left my garden. Now you've lost all credibility.
Anything else you say must be SERIOUSLY doubted after an obvious lie like that one!
Cinderella Story...
I've been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the "Cinderella Story", so here it is:
In 1997, I (MrSoul) discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ "Sensi Smile" coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn't expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call "Princess".
Therefore Princess' mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant.
I also got 2 more females (Genius & Cafe'Girl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process.
The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is "Cinderella 99", a cubed version of Princess.
The name "Cinderella" was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning.
MrSoul
"Princess is a female which resulted from a seed found in a Jack Herer bud I bought in Amsterdam near the Sensi Seed Bank at "Coffeeshop Sensi Smile". The bud came in a 2 gr. cello-pack with the Sensi logo; I expected sinsemilla, but it had about 10 seeds so I assume she's an F2 JH. Her characteristics were so fine I wanted to create seeds that would "replicate" this plant. She has the KILLER Haze-influenced high with the most DELICIOUS pineapple/evil scent, 50 day maturation in 12/12, and incredible resin production, doesn't stretch - yet clearly Sativa-dominant! Last but not least: Never a hint of hermaphrodism after 2 years of cloning & many different styles of grow.
I wanted to "cube" Princess but add a little beef to her branches because the buds were always too heavy at harvest and branches needed staking to keep from flopping over. I crossed my ShivaSkunk female with one of the males from the same group of seeds that Princess came from. THIS cross produced a male which was then crossed to Princess, creating "P.50" (using a shorthand notation I developed to indicate the fraction of Princess genes in the cross).
Each generation is the result of crossing a male from the previous generation to Princess herself (incestuous, I know).
Blow-by-blow description of the generations:
P.50 = Heavy, single-cola type plants with mellow high (too much influence from the ShivaSkunk) Sweet fruity scent/flavor. Unstable in most traits - for example, 10 days difference in fastest/slowest maturation period in a group of 20 seedlings.
P.75 = Plants leaning MUCH more in the direction of Princess in floral cluster and bud structure, scent/flavor turned more "tropical" like pineapple. The stability was becoming better - two major phenotypes; short & dense (potent too) or tall/HUGE (Not so potent).
P.88 = Renamed Cinderella 88 when first released on the market. It grows fast and produces excellent yields of FROSTY buds in 7 weeks! Generally uniform seedlings with minor differences in floral formation and some height variance, but the smoke is quite consistent from all plants - Dense, heavy nuggets of fruity scented & flavored (like wild berries) and covered in resin glands, the dried buds have distinctly ORANGE pistils.
And now P.94 = Cinderella 99. This project has been a huge success. The strain has been embraced by the "net"work of growers with rave reviews.
"I personally think the plants these Cinderella 99 seeds produce are every bit as good as a cutting from Princess herself (or better).
I say better because the flavor of no two plants is "identical"; there's a personality to all living things. Like Princess herself, Cinderella is sweet & fruity to the palette and nose, and when you take a hit you're BLASTED...with the same "racy" high as Princess!
The improvement comes in the yield department; 25% greater yield and a stronger branch structure, which I accomplished by starting with some ShivaSkunk genes in the original father in the cubing process.
I knew I'd blend out the majority of the traits from ShivaSkunk in the cubing process, but I was hoping to incorporate the ShivaSkunk's stronger branches because Princess had a tendency to need supports in the final two weeks of flowering. As it turns out, I got lucky and it worked.
The name suits the strain IMO - it's a true Cinderella Story." - MrSoul
"Jack Herer is an unstable strain bred from an unequal combination of Sk#1, NL#5, and Haze. Crossing a male and female Jack Herer creates an F2 generation which has a HUGE number of possible recombinations of the genes. I grew out some Jack Herer F2s and discovered a SPECIAL one, "Princess", which has many improvements on the original JH such as a shorter flowering time, denser bud structure and pineapple scent/flavour. I have been continually back crossing Princess with her male offspring (generation after generation) which eventually creates a stabilized strain having her special characteristics found reliably in most females grown from those seeds. Each generation is composed of a 50% genetic contribution from Princess (since she's the seed parent) and a 50% contribution from the pollen parent (which also has an increasing percentage of Princess' genetics with each generation). The progression goes: P.50, P.75, P.88, P.94, and P.97...at that point it's considered stabilized (a male and female P.97 can be crossed and the offspring are essentially the same as the parents). I have been VERY pleased with the way this project is going; even the P.75 generation was rather stable in the sense that the individuals were all rather uniform and HIGH quality. ...So, you see, since I have combined genes from Sk#1, NL#5, and Haze, creating a plant which has characteristics distinctly different than Jack Herer, and I'm creating a stable strain from this plant... it's legitimately MY work." - MrSoul
"Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency (P.50 was rather mellow)...P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavour, Cinderella 88 is cerebral & paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavour, and Cinderella 99 is "TRIP WEED"...with more of the fruity flavour and speedy effect from Princess." - MrSoul
"...Princess smells very much like pineapple both during flowering and when dried, but there's this "evil" scent in it too, like rotting meat, which has been linked with the most devastating weed (notably the Durban/Thai hybrid from SSSC, years ago). The taste is connoisseur quality when it's cured; VERY fruity. The high is almost too intense for a lot of people; Dr. Atomic actually refused to smoke any on our second meeting, after getting rather "hazed and confused" on the first sampling we did together a couple of weeks before, so he decided to try Shiva Skunk and found that more mellow and to his liking. Two hits of Princess will induce your body to tremble involuntarily and your heart to race and paranoid thoughts... very much like Haze, but not quite as intense. It also has a "creeper" quality that makes it easy to over-indulge...you get progressively higher during the first 10 minutes after smoking. Look at the May '98 issue of High Times' centerfold and find "Yellow Cab"...that's EXACTLY what the finished Princess buds look like. The "frosting" of stalked, capitate trichomes on the flowers and smaller leaves gives them a "furry" appearance much like Haze."
MrSoul
"I'd personally advise you to "top" the C-99's at their 4th branch set (about 3-4 weeks old) then when the branches grow to be about a foot long (about 6-8 weeks old) you should flower them. You'll know which plants are female BEFORE you ever switch the light cycle to 12/12. Cinderella plants always show preflowers at the 5-7 branch sets during the VEGETATIVE stage... when they're a little over a month old. Mr Soul "
(MrSoul is probably most famous for originating "Cinderella 99" aka "Cindy 99")
[as related in an internet post by "MrSoul", June 2000]
"...Bros Grimm have been employing a method called "Cubing a Clone" to create strains from unique female plants for years now.
Read the following and you'll understand:
Cubing a clone is a way to create a unique seedline (a “strain”) modelled after a currently existing female individual.
The goal is to create seeds from which the females replicate the phenotype of the original female.
Obviously the chosen female should be an outstanding specimen.
Procedure:
CONTINUOUSLY KEEP A MOTHER IN THE VEGETATIVE STATE TO PROVIDE CLONES
1. Pollinate a flowering clone of the original female with the pollen of a related male, preferably her father or a brother. The resulting seeds contain 1/2 the original female's genes and 1/2 those of the male. An unrelated male won’t have the Y-chromosome of the chosen female’s family & therefore any Y-linked traits of the family will always be missing in the seedline.
2. Grow the above seeds & flower them. Collect an equal quantity of pollen from each selected male and mix it together.
3. Pollinate a flowering clone of the original female with the above pollen. These seeds contain 1/2 the original female’s genes plus 1/4 more because the male used was 1/2 her genetics too. I call this generation “.75” to capture the idea that it’s 3/4 of the original female’s genetics.
4. Grow the above seeds & flower them. Collect an equal quantity of pollen from each selected male and mix it together.
5. Pollinate a flowering clone of the original female with the above pollen. These seeds contain 7/8 the original genes (1/2+3/8), the ".88" generation.
6. Grow the above seeds & flower them.
Collect an equal quantity of pollen from each selected male and mix it together.
7. Pollinate a flowering clone of the original female with the above pollen. These seeds contain 15/16 the original genes (1/2+7/16), the ".94" generation.
Theoretically, this will be a stable, true-breeding seedline from which all females are replicas of the original. "
December,1999, internet post by MrSoul]
"...
Apollo 13 = Genius/ P75 and is very popular despite my only having created about 500 seeds.
Apollo 11 = Genius/ C99....[*]
Note both have the SAME mother -
"Genius" which is a sister of Princess, although you'd hardly see a family resemblance.
Genius is lemon-scented, rather like Lemon Pledge furniture polish actually.
Her high is not speedy like Princess', it's a "happy high".
As a plant, Genius is a pleasure to flower, producing heavier yields than Princess with similarly resinous floral clusters shaped less like Princess' "braids" and more like a dense cone of sparkling, tightly-packed calyxes & pistils bursting out from between little leaves bristling with stalked glands.
Very sticky and pungent smelling. She matures rapidly, finishing in 7 weeks and when the buds are manicured (very easy) and dried, Genius' final product is true "eye candy" to behold.
The father plant used in Apollo 13 was the same as was used to create Cinderella 88.
The father plant used to create Apollo 11 was the same as was used to make the current generation of C99, i.e., P94. [wayback in December of 1999 when written by Soul]
(*)This (Genius) male was responsible for adding considerable yield to the current Cinderella 99, i.e., P97 generation..."
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IMB Note,
"Vic High" once offered the suggestion to Soul to pollinate individual branches with individuals pollen to test males, a method which soul eventually evolved to (?) instead of his original "shake and bake" method of male selection...
A little luck never hurt a damn thing, a lot of luck can be a beautiful thing, especially in Las Vegas when rolling dice and also apparently when breeding seeds...
well regardless of his breeding methodologies, the bottom line is he certainly got some big time positive results, it worked for him.
The "Brothers Grimm" cannabis strains will not soon be forgotten, thats for sure.
As Granny used to say "The proof of the pudding is in eating it".
That means that the true value or quality of something can only be judged when it's put to use and tried and tested.
mr soul
info from the original breeder of c99, copy/paste
Genius is the sister of Princess. Both seeds came from the same bud.
=Princess was obtained from growing out seeds found in buds of Jack Herer that was purchased in Amsterdam at the "Sensi-Smile" coffee shop, an authorized outlet of Sensi Seed Bank. Thus, it is considered to be an f2 generation Jack Herer. The seeds were found only in the deepest part of the buds indicating that the father was an unusually early-maturing JH that the growers missed at first. MrSoul
MrSoul
Cinderella Story
I've been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the "Cinderella Story", so here it is:
In 1997, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ "Sensi Smile" coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn't expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call "Princess".
Therefore Princess' mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant.
I also got 2 more females (Genius & Cafe'Girl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process.
The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is "Cinderella 99", a cubed version of Princess.
The name "Cinderella" was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning. It's also VERY similar to the story of the "Morgan Horse"...go Figure
MrSoul
Senior Member
Registered: Dec 1999
Location:
Posts: 1224
Anyone who knows me knows I have kept Princess to myself and have NEVER sent anyone a clone.
You've made the colossal mistake of claiming you "own Princess", a strain that's never left my garden. Now you've lost all credibility.
Anything else you say must be SERIOUSLY doubted after an obvious lie like that one!
Cinderella Story...
I've been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the "Cinderella Story", so here it is:
In 1997, I (MrSoul) discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ "Sensi Smile" coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn't expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call "Princess".
Therefore Princess' mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant.
I also got 2 more females (Genius & Cafe'Girl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process.
The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is "Cinderella 99", a cubed version of Princess.
The name "Cinderella" was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning.
MrSoul
"Princess is a female which resulted from a seed found in a Jack Herer bud I bought in Amsterdam near the Sensi Seed Bank at "Coffeeshop Sensi Smile". The bud came in a 2 gr. cello-pack with the Sensi logo; I expected sinsemilla, but it had about 10 seeds so I assume she's an F2 JH. Her characteristics were so fine I wanted to create seeds that would "replicate" this plant. She has the KILLER Haze-influenced high with the most DELICIOUS pineapple/evil scent, 50 day maturation in 12/12, and incredible resin production, doesn't stretch - yet clearly Sativa-dominant! Last but not least: Never a hint of hermaphrodism after 2 years of cloning & many different styles of grow.
I wanted to "cube" Princess but add a little beef to her branches because the buds were always too heavy at harvest and branches needed staking to keep from flopping over. I crossed my ShivaSkunk female with one of the males from the same group of seeds that Princess came from. THIS cross produced a male which was then crossed to Princess, creating "P.50" (using a shorthand notation I developed to indicate the fraction of Princess genes in the cross).
Each generation is the result of crossing a male from the previous generation to Princess herself (incestuous, I know).
Blow-by-blow description of the generations:
P.50 = Heavy, single-cola type plants with mellow high (too much influence from the ShivaSkunk) Sweet fruity scent/flavor. Unstable in most traits - for example, 10 days difference in fastest/slowest maturation period in a group of 20 seedlings.
P.75 = Plants leaning MUCH more in the direction of Princess in floral cluster and bud structure, scent/flavor turned more "tropical" like pineapple. The stability was becoming better - two major phenotypes; short & dense (potent too) or tall/HUGE (Not so potent).
P.88 = Renamed Cinderella 88 when first released on the market. It grows fast and produces excellent yields of FROSTY buds in 7 weeks! Generally uniform seedlings with minor differences in floral formation and some height variance, but the smoke is quite consistent from all plants - Dense, heavy nuggets of fruity scented & flavored (like wild berries) and covered in resin glands, the dried buds have distinctly ORANGE pistils.
And now P.94 = Cinderella 99. This project has been a huge success. The strain has been embraced by the "net"work of growers with rave reviews.
"I personally think the plants these Cinderella 99 seeds produce are every bit as good as a cutting from Princess herself (or better).
I say better because the flavor of no two plants is "identical"; there's a personality to all living things. Like Princess herself, Cinderella is sweet & fruity to the palette and nose, and when you take a hit you're BLASTED...with the same "racy" high as Princess!
The improvement comes in the yield department; 25% greater yield and a stronger branch structure, which I accomplished by starting with some ShivaSkunk genes in the original father in the cubing process.
I knew I'd blend out the majority of the traits from ShivaSkunk in the cubing process, but I was hoping to incorporate the ShivaSkunk's stronger branches because Princess had a tendency to need supports in the final two weeks of flowering. As it turns out, I got lucky and it worked.
The name suits the strain IMO - it's a true Cinderella Story." - MrSoul
"Jack Herer is an unstable strain bred from an unequal combination of Sk#1, NL#5, and Haze. Crossing a male and female Jack Herer creates an F2 generation which has a HUGE number of possible recombinations of the genes. I grew out some Jack Herer F2s and discovered a SPECIAL one, "Princess", which has many improvements on the original JH such as a shorter flowering time, denser bud structure and pineapple scent/flavour. I have been continually back crossing Princess with her male offspring (generation after generation) which eventually creates a stabilized strain having her special characteristics found reliably in most females grown from those seeds. Each generation is composed of a 50% genetic contribution from Princess (since she's the seed parent) and a 50% contribution from the pollen parent (which also has an increasing percentage of Princess' genetics with each generation). The progression goes: P.50, P.75, P.88, P.94, and P.97...at that point it's considered stabilized (a male and female P.97 can be crossed and the offspring are essentially the same as the parents). I have been VERY pleased with the way this project is going; even the P.75 generation was rather stable in the sense that the individuals were all rather uniform and HIGH quality. ...So, you see, since I have combined genes from Sk#1, NL#5, and Haze, creating a plant which has characteristics distinctly different than Jack Herer, and I'm creating a stable strain from this plant... it's legitimately MY work." - MrSoul
"Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency (P.50 was rather mellow)...P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavour, Cinderella 88 is cerebral & paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavour, and Cinderella 99 is "TRIP WEED"...with more of the fruity flavour and speedy effect from Princess." - MrSoul
"...Princess smells very much like pineapple both during flowering and when dried, but there's this "evil" scent in it too, like rotting meat, which has been linked with the most devastating weed (notably the Durban/Thai hybrid from SSSC, years ago). The taste is connoisseur quality when it's cured; VERY fruity. The high is almost too intense for a lot of people; Dr. Atomic actually refused to smoke any on our second meeting, after getting rather "hazed and confused" on the first sampling we did together a couple of weeks before, so he decided to try Shiva Skunk and found that more mellow and to his liking. Two hits of Princess will induce your body to tremble involuntarily and your heart to race and paranoid thoughts... very much like Haze, but not quite as intense. It also has a "creeper" quality that makes it easy to over-indulge...you get progressively higher during the first 10 minutes after smoking. Look at the May '98 issue of High Times' centerfold and find "Yellow Cab"...that's EXACTLY what the finished Princess buds look like. The "frosting" of stalked, capitate trichomes on the flowers and smaller leaves gives them a "furry" appearance much like Haze."
MrSoul
"I'd personally advise you to "top" the C-99's at their 4th branch set (about 3-4 weeks old) then when the branches grow to be about a foot long (about 6-8 weeks old) you should flower them. You'll know which plants are female BEFORE you ever switch the light cycle to 12/12. Cinderella plants always show preflowers at the 5-7 branch sets during the VEGETATIVE stage... when they're a little over a month old. Mr Soul "
(MrSoul is probably most famous for originating "Cinderella 99" aka "Cindy 99")
[as related in an internet post by "MrSoul", June 2000]
"...Bros Grimm have been employing a method called "Cubing a Clone" to create strains from unique female plants for years now.
Read the following and you'll understand:
Cubing a clone is a way to create a unique seedline (a “strain”) modelled after a currently existing female individual.
The goal is to create seeds from which the females replicate the phenotype of the original female.
Obviously the chosen female should be an outstanding specimen.
Procedure:
CONTINUOUSLY KEEP A MOTHER IN THE VEGETATIVE STATE TO PROVIDE CLONES
1. Pollinate a flowering clone of the original female with the pollen of a related male, preferably her father or a brother. The resulting seeds contain 1/2 the original female's genes and 1/2 those of the male. An unrelated male won’t have the Y-chromosome of the chosen female’s family & therefore any Y-linked traits of the family will always be missing in the seedline.
2. Grow the above seeds & flower them. Collect an equal quantity of pollen from each selected male and mix it together.
3. Pollinate a flowering clone of the original female with the above pollen. These seeds contain 1/2 the original female’s genes plus 1/4 more because the male used was 1/2 her genetics too. I call this generation “.75” to capture the idea that it’s 3/4 of the original female’s genetics.
4. Grow the above seeds & flower them. Collect an equal quantity of pollen from each selected male and mix it together.
5. Pollinate a flowering clone of the original female with the above pollen. These seeds contain 7/8 the original genes (1/2+3/8), the ".88" generation.
6. Grow the above seeds & flower them.
Collect an equal quantity of pollen from each selected male and mix it together.
7. Pollinate a flowering clone of the original female with the above pollen. These seeds contain 15/16 the original genes (1/2+7/16), the ".94" generation.
Theoretically, this will be a stable, true-breeding seedline from which all females are replicas of the original. "
December,1999, internet post by MrSoul]
"...
Apollo 13 = Genius/ P75 and is very popular despite my only having created about 500 seeds.
Apollo 11 = Genius/ C99....[*]
Note both have the SAME mother -
"Genius" which is a sister of Princess, although you'd hardly see a family resemblance.
Genius is lemon-scented, rather like Lemon Pledge furniture polish actually.
Her high is not speedy like Princess', it's a "happy high".
As a plant, Genius is a pleasure to flower, producing heavier yields than Princess with similarly resinous floral clusters shaped less like Princess' "braids" and more like a dense cone of sparkling, tightly-packed calyxes & pistils bursting out from between little leaves bristling with stalked glands.
Very sticky and pungent smelling. She matures rapidly, finishing in 7 weeks and when the buds are manicured (very easy) and dried, Genius' final product is true "eye candy" to behold.
The father plant used in Apollo 13 was the same as was used to create Cinderella 88.
The father plant used to create Apollo 11 was the same as was used to make the current generation of C99, i.e., P94. [wayback in December of 1999 when written by Soul]
(*)This (Genius) male was responsible for adding considerable yield to the current Cinderella 99, i.e., P97 generation..."
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IMB Note,
"Vic High" once offered the suggestion to Soul to pollinate individual branches with individuals pollen to test males, a method which soul eventually evolved to (?) instead of his original "shake and bake" method of male selection...
A little luck never hurt a damn thing, a lot of luck can be a beautiful thing, especially in Las Vegas when rolling dice and also apparently when breeding seeds...
well regardless of his breeding methodologies, the bottom line is he certainly got some big time positive results, it worked for him.
The "Brothers Grimm" cannabis strains will not soon be forgotten, thats for sure.
As Granny used to say "The proof of the pudding is in eating it".
That means that the true value or quality of something can only be judged when it's put to use and tried and tested.
W
Wunderkind
expert? No. I just have an idea of what I'm talking about. You know, speaking off of personal experience, but I guess you have experience growing c99 too, right? Right.eyes said:
Ahh, C99 (or Cindy as I call her - I'm on a first name basis with her), my fave daytime/worktime smoke and a good friend - my pineapple pal 
The feminised C99 beans I made earlier this year were derived from two GN Collection C99s. Ive only got about 30 beans of that left so I cant release it, but half a dozen or so icmaggers got some. (When I only had 3 GN Collection beans left I thought "damn, I gotta save these!" so I made some colloidal silver, reversed a female to get feminised pollen, pollenated a second C99 female, and voila)
Here is one of my GN Collection C99s (harvested a bit early due to severe bud drought
) ...
And here is one of my Wallyduck C99 F5s:
Both plants grew naturally - no topping or training.
I haven't tried the original Brothers Grimm C99, but both the GN Collection and Wallyduck C99s are superb. I haven't tried any other C99s.
Ive only grown one of my femme C99s so far but it grew out very bushy like the above Wallyduck one, rather than xmastree-like as the GN Collection one did, but I have seen that same bushiness in some GN Collection ones so I guess its a phenotype thang. There are definately at least two phenos in the GN Collection C99s because at least 1 pheno has a very distinct tropical pineapple flavour, and there is at least 1 pheno that doesn't have that at all, as if it was genetically switched off, and that was disappointing - the high wasnt as good, and I felt almost robbed that the pineapple flavor i loved so much wasnt even slightly present!
Here's a closeup, sorry about the blur and crap lighting im not much of a photographer:
I have one of my feminised C99s about 1 week away from harvest now.
The feminised C99 beans I made earlier this year were derived from two GN Collection C99s. Ive only got about 30 beans of that left so I cant release it, but half a dozen or so icmaggers got some. (When I only had 3 GN Collection beans left I thought "damn, I gotta save these!" so I made some colloidal silver, reversed a female to get feminised pollen, pollenated a second C99 female, and voila)
Here is one of my GN Collection C99s (harvested a bit early due to severe bud drought
) ...
And here is one of my Wallyduck C99 F5s:
Both plants grew naturally - no topping or training.
I haven't tried the original Brothers Grimm C99, but both the GN Collection and Wallyduck C99s are superb. I haven't tried any other C99s.
Ive only grown one of my femme C99s so far but it grew out very bushy like the above Wallyduck one, rather than xmastree-like as the GN Collection one did, but I have seen that same bushiness in some GN Collection ones so I guess its a phenotype thang. There are definately at least two phenos in the GN Collection C99s because at least 1 pheno has a very distinct tropical pineapple flavour, and there is at least 1 pheno that doesn't have that at all, as if it was genetically switched off, and that was disappointing - the high wasnt as good, and I felt almost robbed that the pineapple flavor i loved so much wasnt even slightly present!
Here's a closeup, sorry about the blur and crap lighting im not much of a photographer:
I have one of my feminised C99s about 1 week away from harvest now.
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Pops whats the origin/breeder of your C99?
I have no idea, Pheno. Got her 3 years ago from a med club in San Diego before all 16 were shut down by the DEA. It is short and bushy as hell. Soul described the C-99 as a bushy plants that gets about 3' tall and produces 2 oz. That describes mine to a T. Very aromatic strain and the odor is so distinctive that once you smell it, you don't have to ask what it is. Can't really say that it is the p/a pheno, but it smells more like that than grapefruit. I have several patients who like it for pain management and for depression. I really don't have a good pic of it,as I don't own a camera. A friend took a lousy pic that I have included.
Good question? I plan on following the same procedure with the Afghan Bullrider.I have already crossed it to a Princess Diesel. I will take a good male from that line and cross it to one of my AB moms. That will make a 75% AB. Then take one of those males and back cross it again, making a 88% AB. If I ever get through all the land race hash strains I am measuring for CBD content, that will be my next project. I hope I live long enough to get it done.
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Hey all great work and sweet C99 girls! I think I am working with Rez's cut but can't say for sure. I haven't crossed C99 to itself yet, but I plan in the future to do so. Right now I did cross a gorgeous indica dominant TrainwreckXSour D IBL to my C99 cut outdoors. Got about 50 seeds and they look prime! I think these seeds will be really awesome to work with, cuz on the TWXSD I had a female that grew out beautifully and smelled very strong.
The male I used was super indica dominant, slow grower though so I figured she'd make up for it in bud size or potency possibly. The C99 cut is famous, and super indica as well in my book, together it seemed like an awesome match. Hope you don't mind the pictures!
Male TWXSD ibl
C99 girl
at the end of her days...
MMM!!!
The male I used was super indica dominant, slow grower though so I figured she'd make up for it in bud size or potency possibly. The C99 cut is famous, and super indica as well in my book, together it seemed like an awesome match. Hope you don't mind the pictures!
Male TWXSD ibl
C99 girl
at the end of her days...
MMM!!!
Johnny Chimpo
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Pops said:
Cubing is a myth...not the way it works unfortunately Pops. It's all about how the genetics recombine - dominant, recessive and all that jazz.
Here's a pic of Wally's f5
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JLP made C99 F4s that were given away as freebies on Seedbay last winter.
The post below mentions he made C99 F3s too
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1076476&postcount=49
The post below mentions he made C99 F3s too
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1076476&postcount=49
THC•20
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Oh my God, that's genius the "cubing process" thing. I hope I can create a strain one day. Thanks for posting the story of C99. Other than chemdawg, I've always wanted to know the origins of C99 
. I can't wait to get my hands on these beans!
edit: btw could you explain how the cubing thing is a myth? It makes logical sense to me.
. I can't wait to get my hands on these beans!edit: btw could you explain how the cubing thing is a myth? It makes logical sense to me.
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I just placed 4th in East Coast Nugs n Jugs with a C99 hybrid:
C99 x (NL x G13) bred by a canncom member named The Image Reaper.
The Cindy influence just SHINES through in the flavor, which is very pure and clear and a very close approximation of a glass of gin with pink grapefruit juice. The leaves are glossy and narrow, and foliage on the buds is minimal.
I still have un-popped packs of seeds of that cross and intend to work with her further when I have a safe place to grow out that sort of population size.
C99 x (NL x G13) bred by a canncom member named The Image Reaper.
The Cindy influence just SHINES through in the flavor, which is very pure and clear and a very close approximation of a glass of gin with pink grapefruit juice. The leaves are glossy and narrow, and foliage on the buds is minimal.
I still have un-popped packs of seeds of that cross and intend to work with her further when I have a safe place to grow out that sort of population size.
