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HempKat

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I just wish they'd call it something else like synthetic angel dust since the bad reactions you hear about in the news are very similar to someone flipping out on PCP. The one that got me the most and convinced me to never try this stuff was a story about some guy in the Military who used it and even 3 weeks later was still not back to normal. In that story the wife of the guy said he was so bad off from the shit he couldn't even remember how to eat. She talked about how when being served a sandwich he would bring it to his mouth but couldn't figure out how to take a bite and chew it. I've done plenty of hard core drugs over the years and never once was so wasted I couldn't remember how to eat. I mean what's next? Forgetting how to breath? I'm sorry but when a drug makes you forget how to do things you know to do instinctively without thinking then that my friends is a bad drug.

If they called it synthetic PCP no big deal because PCP is already considered a bad drug. Marijuana on the other hand has already been wrongly perceived as bad by false racist and greed driven propaganda like "Reefer Madness" the last thing it needs is to have someone saying here is something like Marijuana that actually will have a "Reefer Madness" like effect on you.
 

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I just wish they'd call it something else like synthetic angel dust since the bad reactions you hear about in the news are very similar to someone flipping out on PCP. The one that got me the most and convinced me to never try this stuff was a story about some guy in the Military who used it and even 3 weeks later was still not back to normal. In that story the wife of the guy said he was so bad off from the shit he couldn't even remember how to eat. She talked about how when being served a sandwich he would bring it to his mouth but couldn't figure out how to take a bite and chew it. I've done plenty of hard core drugs over the years and never once was so wasted I couldn't remember how to eat. I mean what's next? Forgetting how to breath? I'm sorry but when a drug makes you forget how to do things you know to do instinctively without thinking then that my friends is a bad drug.

If they called it synthetic PCP no big deal because PCP is already considered a bad drug. Marijuana on the other hand has already been wrongly perceived as bad by false racist and greed driven propaganda like "Reefer Madness" the last thing it needs is to have someone saying here is something like Marijuana that actually will have a "Reefer Madness" like effect on you.

What substance caused this guy to forget how to eat a sandwich for weeks at a time? Do you really believe cannabinoids do this to people? I'm telling you there's a 0 percent chance of a cannabinoid causing this kind of reaction. It is literally impossible.

Stories like this are the new "reefer madness" in the media today. Stories like this are causing more and more drugs with tremendous potential medical benefits to be banned before we have time to study them.
 

vapor

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I have seen a friend high on pcp for a week after one dose{it was pretty heroic} He never did that again was very scarry......
 

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I will not eat foods grown or packaged in China....as I will never smoke something created there. I pay $7.99/lb for my favorite fish (Talapia) vs the Chinese raised Talapia @ $3.99/lb....out of more cash...but peace of mind.
 

stihgnobevoli

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What substance caused this guy to forget how to eat a sandwich for weeks at a time? Do you really believe cannabinoids do this to people? I'm telling you there's a 0 percent chance of a cannabinoid causing this kind of reaction. It is literally impossible.

Stories like this are the new "reefer madness" in the media today. Stories like this are causing more and more drugs with tremendous potential medical benefits to be banned before we have time to study them.

Yeah...^^^ what this guy said. all the rest of this is reefer madness hyped up old wives takes. i'm living proof along with my friend who smokes the shit way more than i ever have. he works at a tv station doing ad's and editing video. he has no issues with eating sangwiches, he is not homeless or retarded and it has not affected him in any way. he just bought a ps4 and a 60inch 3d tv. i don't think the drugs are effecting him in any negative way.
 

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What substance caused this guy to forget how to eat a sandwich for weeks at a time? Do you really believe cannabinoids do this to people? I'm telling you there's a 0 percent chance of a cannabinoid causing this kind of reaction. It is literally impossible.

Stories like this are the new "reefer madness" in the media today. Stories like this are causing more and more drugs with tremendous potential medical benefits to be banned before we have time to study them.

I never said it was a cannabinoid what it was, was something packaged and sold as synthetic marijuana. The guy was in the military and so because of that didn't want to stop getting high but didn't want to piss dirty. So he purchased some synthetic marijuana likely at a local gas station and smoked that. Who knows what the fuck he actually smoked? Certainly nothing remotely like marijuana ever fucked someone up that bad. I've done drugs like PCP that conceivably could fuck you up that bad and yet it didn't fuck me up that bad. The news story or documentary showed the wife talking while the guy sat there mostly with a vacant look on his face. She describe one incident where he would raise a sandwich to his mouth but then not know what to do from there and that he would be like that even as much as three weeks from the last time he got high.

That's why I wish it wasn't called synthetic marijuana because it's not. It's whatever chemical combination that can maintain an interesting enough high for people to want it and yet be technically legal because it's a drug combination not yet made legal or illegal. Another documentary out just in the past month on some cable channel (I forget which one) actually bought several different kinds and had them analyzed and found combinations of chemicals very similar to ecstasy and meth. I remember the interviewer asking the lab technician that analyzed them, "So you're saying this one basically contains ecstasy and meth" and the technician replying, "Yep. pretty much."

Now you seem to talk of legitimate synthetic marijuana, in other words someone making cannabinoids artificially, which if some are that's very different. For the most part, on the national stage, when people are talking about synthetic weed they're talking mystery chemicals sprayed on dried organic material.
 

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I saw a Documenteryon this stuff, The Labs create and sell the chems, Anybody can buys this chemical online. However, SOMEONE still has to prepare whatever it is that is going to be smoked, maybe dried tree leaves for all we know, then that someone spreads it all out on the floor and sprays the chemical mixture on the stuff, then it dry's it is packaged then is sold in a package with a cool name, with a Label that says "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION"

Enough said

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stihgnobevoli

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I never said it was a cannabinoid what it was, was something packaged and sold as synthetic marijuana. The guy was in the military and so because of that didn't want to stop getting high but didn't want to piss dirty. So he purchased some synthetic marijuana likely at a local gas station and smoked that. Who knows what the fuck he actually smoked? Certainly nothing remotely like marijuana ever fucked someone up that bad. I've done drugs like PCP that conceivably could fuck you up that bad and yet it didn't fuck me up that bad. The news story or documentary showed the wife talking while the guy sat there mostly with a vacant look on his face. She describe one incident where he would raise a sandwich to his mouth but then not know what to do from there and that he would be like that even as much as three weeks from the last time he got high.

That's why I wish it wasn't called synthetic marijuana because it's not. It's whatever chemical combination that can maintain an interesting enough high for people to want it and yet be technically legal because it's a drug combination not yet made legal or illegal. Another documentary out just in the past month on some cable channel (I forget which one) actually bought several different kinds and had them analyzed and found combinations of chemicals very similar to ecstasy and meth. I remember the interviewer asking the lab technician that analyzed them, "So you're saying this one basically contains ecstasy and meth" and the technician replying, "Yep. pretty much."

Now you seem to talk of legitimate synthetic marijuana, in other words someone making cannabinoids artificially, which if some are that's very different. For the most part, on the national stage, when people are talking about synthetic weed they're talking mystery chemicals sprayed on dried organic material.

you sound like you're confused or maybe those guys are confused. i've been interested in research chemicals for over 10 years now since back in the day when you could buy pure mdma online. there are research chemicals that are synthetic/analogues to every fucking drug you can think of. from coke to extasy and meth.

the "weed" would not have those drugs in them. it would be a jwh-NNN some number increment with a slight tweak to bypass the laws that made the previous number suffix illegal. not meth. not extasy, but a cannabinoid analogue.

i suggest you take a visit to erowid or google swim and research chemicals as a string.
 

Sativa Dragon

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I suggest you leave your research chemicals to the researchers till they are done researching them, before you end up researching what happened to your brain, and you end up in a lab being researched by a bunch of researchers.

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stihgnobevoli

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my brain is just fine. you guys need to increase your knowledge so you can stop being scared into hysteria by every sensational headline...jeez.
 

stihgnobevoli

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me too, but i'm not gonna go around saying the sky is falling because people choose/have to use synthetics.

K.I.P Knowledge Is Power
 

Sativa Dragon

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my brain is just fine. you guys need to increase your knowledge so you can stop being scared into hysteria by every sensational headline...jeez.

With all the negative hype or fact whatever it is, you will never reassure an intelligent mind that smoking this stuff is good for you.

Can you tell me what it is you are smoking other than the chems for sure?

No you can't because it is not for human consumption so you could be smoking birch tree bark or mulch for all you know, I prefer to play it safe when I here about all the horrible reactions people are having, you are the only source I have heard rave reviews about this shit.

I could put glue in a bag and say not for human consumption, someone will buy it and abuse it.

All this is, is wanton wholesale abuse of peoples better judgment, It ranks up there with those payday loan places that hold people in debt in perpetuity.

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Sativa Dragon

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One of the biggest problems with the world today is that we have large groups of people who will accept whatever they hear on the grapevine, just because it suits their worldview—not because it is actually true or because they have evidence to support it. The really striking thing is that it would not take much effort to establish validity in most of these cases…but people prefer reassurance to research.


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stihgnobevoli

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you know you can just buy the research chemicals themselves then add it to whatever you want right? you can soak tobacco in it and roll up some "cigarettes" and get high all day everywhere you are with none being the wiser...

like i said K.I.P.


also most of those packages either list what's in em on the package or on a website. if you cares to...ahem...research it :rolleyes:

i don't know all this stuff by magic, i practice this long lost ancient technique called reading. really strengthens the brain.

but most of the "herbs" in those blends are as i said regular shit that people smoke for other reasons with no ill effects like damiana, cloves, salvia (not divonorum), and other shit like that. you're only fueling the "reefer madness" with your speculation and guesswork.
 

SpasticGramps

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Fuck that shit.

I've tried it a few times and know several people who did a lot of it (PO PO) and it fucked them up.

I hated the high. Hated the taste. And you don't know what it is or dosage or anything.

Garbage fucking drugs IMO and potentially dangerous from what I've seen.

I'd rather eat glue and sniff whiteboard markers.
 
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