Vick on dogfighting in GQ: ‘People act like it’s some crazy thing they never heard of

[dagnabit]

Very sad to see what's acceptable in America these days. Throw a ball well and all wrongs are forgotten.

kinda got me thinking...

i'm intimately acquainted with dog fighting and it's history..


"these days"(say the last 40 years)dog fighting is exponentially less acceptable than ever in this countries history.


before anyone gets nutty:
i dont(and have never)roll dogs

 

[paulo73]

Can you elaborate a little further

Can you elaborate a little further

"why are people sweating me harder over dog fighting than selling/using coke or heroin ro any of the other horrors that occur in the ghetto"


and hes right

when people have a greater emotional vestment with animals than people their objectivity regarding humanity is off

and its very common among growers to withdraw from society, befriend animals and plants because they because the are tired of the human dynamic but its one they will never escape

selfless compassion is the key to unlocking human understanding

its the best hope we have for change

What kind of hard time are we talking about?
If people have greater emotional vestments with animals it might have something to do with people like Vic promoting animal cruelty as a way to make a buck.
As common as "growers to withdraw from society, befriend animals and plants because they because the are tired of the human dynamic" is people promoting dog fights being connected with all other sorts of criminal activities. Just saying...
I can't feel any compassion coming from you side and selfless is something we not yet grasp my dear

 

[solarz]

You know...it is amazing how judgmental a bunch of people can be, who PARTICIPATE IN AN ILLEGAL CULTURE in the USA. I mean come on, don't we all grow weed here? And isn't that shit illegal?? Some do it to "provide medicine", some do it to make money, and some do it just because its fucking fun to do, and they like to smoke weed. The point is, that everyone has their reasons for doing what they do, and unless you are that man, how can you speak on his choices? You can have your opinions of what he did...but to go as far as to insult his character, call him ignorant, etc...just seems like a little much from people who have to defend their right to do something that most see as totally unacceptable.

Cookie Monster, you too may burn in hell for the choices you have made, but yet you seem to be able to place yourself higher than another who's made his own bad choices.

I'm not defending Vick, as I think dog fighting is cruel, but we have a lot to learn as people.

solarz

 

[paulo73]

solarz it really seems you are defending dog fighting and Vic!
If not can you translate what you mean?

 

[Sgt.Stedenko]

Vick and the rest of the NFL scum can suck my balls.
Three hours of greed and reach arounds interupted every 5 minutes with a Cialis commercial.
No thanks.
Nothing wrong with football as a sport. My son plays Jr. High and I fully support him and his team.
NCAA is borderline criminal.
NFL is pure ghetto.

 

[headband 707]

Anyone who participates in dog fights are true pieces of SHIT!!!!!! end of story... does it surprise me that they are fucking jocks ??nah....Headband707

 

[teemu shalanie]

dog fighting is a black / hisspanic ghetto culture thing , man I wish he would just breed his own children to fight , jack them on steroids/ beat, molest them ....now that s a sport 2 ghetto year old baby fights
I hate anyone who can be so ignorant as MV ,

I hope some buddy went atm on him inside..... fucking douchebag

 

[solarz]

solarz it really seems you are defending dog fighting and Vic!
If not can you translate what you mean?

No i am not supporting dog fighting, nor Vick...did you READ MY POST?

All i am saying is that in 2011, i think its sad how we can judge someone else, when we ourselves participate in activities that most of the world doesn't agree with, nor understand. When people call us the scum of the earth, because we flood the street with high grade marijuana, we laugh that shit off...and keep on growing. Why do we do that you ask?? Well, its because we are involved in this culture, and we understand it in a way that others dont, so we somehow justify it to ourselves, which allows us to continue doing what we do.

Do you feel like you are ignorant, or that you shouldn't be alive, or that your kids should be felt sorry for? I think not, but yet...there is some ignorant fucker out there who damn sure does! We are sounding like those ignorant fuckers....just saying.

So to reiterate...i am NOT defending Vick, and i am NOT defending dog fighting.

solarz

 

[headband 707]

You know...it is amazing how judgmental a bunch of people can be, who PARTICIPATE IN AN ILLEGAL CULTURE in the USA. I mean come on, don't we all grow weed here? And isn't that shit illegal?? Some do it to "provide medicine", some do it to make money, and some do it just because its fucking fun to do, and they like to smoke weed. The point is, that everyone has their reasons for doing what they do, and unless you are that man, how can you speak on his choices? You can have your opinions of what he did...but to go as far as to insult his character, call him ignorant, etc...just seems like a little much from people who have to defend their right to do something that most see as totally unacceptable.

Cookie Monster, you too may burn in hell for the choices you have made, but yet you seem to be able to place yourself higher than another who's made his own bad choices.

I'm not defending Vick, as I think dog fighting is cruel, but we have a lot to learn as people.

solarz

WHAT?? LOL... not sure what your point is bro? I for one am calling him an ignorant asshole for using dogs in a fight. If he wants to fight then by all means let him fight but leave the dogs out of it. Cannabis has zero to do with this lol.. What the man did was cruel and dickish no two ways about it. He deserves every bit of the two years he gets for doing this shit. I for one am calling the man a fucking ASSWIPE!!!!! Headband707

 

[dagnabit]

Can someone enlighten me please...in what sense dog fighting is a cultural thing in the USA?!
And since when?

dog fighting came on the mayflower.
it was here when we declared independence.
it was here during the civil war.
it was here during the depression...

the modern "urban" dog fights are a different type of thing all together.

dog fighting is wrong(as are all animal blood sports) but the history is much more interesting than you would think...

personally i think the most atrocious abuses today are the bear baiting matches popular in the middle east today!!!

mike vick was no "dog man" no way in hell an old school "dog man" treats dogs the way he did.

 

[solarz]

dog fighting is a black / hisspanic ghetto culture thing , man I wish he would just breed his own children to fight , jack them on steroids/ beat, molest them ....now that s a sport 2 ghetto year old baby fights
I hate anyone who can be so ignorant as MV ,

I hope some buddy went atm on him inside..... fucking douchebag

You are an idiot my friend. When yo don't know about something, you shouldn't speak on it.

But just to educate you, dog fighting actually isn't some ghetto black, hispanic thing. Anyone can be involved with it, the same way anyone can be involved in growing weed. On this very site, i'm almost positive, we have a fucking black, white, mexican, trust fund kid, college student, law enforcement, etc....who ALL GROW WEED. But i'm sure you knew that right. Grow the fuck up, and use your brain!

solarz

 

[solarz]

WHAT?? LOL... not sure what your point is bro? I for one am calling him an ignorant asshole for using dogs in a fight. If he wants to fight then by all means let him fight but leave the dogs out of it. Cannabis has zero to do with this lol.. What the man did was cruel and dickish no two ways about it. He deserves every bit of the two years he gets for doing this shit. I for one am calling the man a fucking ASSWIPE!!!!! Headband707

You are right, we doesn't have shit to do with dog fighting, but it is an activity that takes place in the US, that is deemed immoral, illegal, and many other things. And here are, being apart of this culture, blasting someone who is apart of another. Maybe your mind won't allow you to comprehend what i am saying, but *I* felt that we were past this type of thing.

solarz

 

[paulo73]

solarz you start to sound like a criminal yourself.
How can you compare growing weed with killing dogs for fun?!
In what world do you live in?
Again your arguments justify all the stupidity, violence and evil that goes in the world.
Good for you buddy, you must live a chilled life.

 

[solarz]

lmao...ok, i'm thru here.

And no, i'm no more of a criminal than you are, and i have no clue what the chilled life is.

 

[headband 707]

You are right, we doesn't have shit to do with dog fighting, but it is an activity that takes place in the US, that is deemed immoral, illegal, and many other things. And here are, being apart of this culture, blasting someone who is apart of another. Maybe your mind won't allow you to comprehend what i am saying, but *I* felt that we were past this type of thing.

solarz

Yeah bro I'm getting what your putting down it's just not what I think is right .....
Dog fighting and maiming /killing dogs for sport as opposed to growing illegal cannabis is just such a far reach lol..
Yes they are both illegal but one actually hurts an animal. This type of behaviour should be unacceptable to normal humanbeings.Anyone who enjoys seeing a dog getting hurt needs their own head examined ,seriously, culture or not...I am sick of ppl saying this is a culture thing this is a cruel thing period!! You see these dogs when these assholes are done with them? These guys are fucking losers ... Headband707

Did you know that they are just now trying to pass a law that they stop using animals for experiments i.e. "Planet of the Apes" type shit...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...Apes-experiments-create-sci-fi-nightmare.html

 

[F. Dupp]

If Hell exists, Michael Vick will be going there.

 

[solarz]

Yeah bro I'm getting what your putting down it's just not what I think is right .....
Dog fighting and maiming /killing dogs for sport as opposed to growing illegal cannabis is just such a far reach lol..
Yes they are both illegal but one actually hurts an animal. This type of behaviour should be unacceptable to normal humanbeings.Anyone who enjoys seeing a dog getting hurt needs their own head examined ,seriously, culture or not...I am sick of ppl saying this is a culture thing this is a cruel thing period!! You see these dogs when these assholes are done with them? These guys are fucking losers ... Headband707

I agree and you are right...i just used the growing weed because it is something that is dear to us, and strikes a nerve, as i'm sure that shit was to him...whether right or wrong.

 

[COOKIE MONSTER]

Cookie Monster, you too may burn in hell for the choices you have made, but yet you seem to be able to place yourself higher than another who's made his own bad choices.

^
Vicks dog

^ my dogs

I think I'm entitled to place myself higher than that scumbag

 

[F. Dupp]

I agree and you are right...i just used the growing weed because it is something that is dear to us, and strikes a nerve, as i'm sure that shit was to him...whether right or wrong.

If you feel that the torture and killing of innocent creatures was "dear" to him, you shouldnt be defending him in any way.

 

[Puffaluffagus]

"Vick talked more about the cultural aspect of the dogfighting trade, and how some folks just wouldn't understand where it comes from.

"[The media is] writing as if everyone feels that way and has the same opinions they do. But when I go out in public, it's all positive, so that's obviously not true … You got the family dog and the white picket fence, and you just think that's all there is. Some of us had to grow up in poverty-stricken urban neighborhoods, and we just had to adapt to our environment. I know that it's wrong. But people act like it's some crazy thing they never heard of. They don't know."

Slavery was part of the "culture" of the 1700's, does that make it ok?

I don't see the connection between being poor in the inner city, and the need to fight dogs.