USA strikes Syria again

[gaiusmarius]

once again, the evil "regime change coalition", shows it's hypocrisy in the extreme. check it out, notice how this event has barely been mentioned in the regime change supporting msm, when it's mentioned, that a bunch of people were attacked in their homes by rockets full of chemical shot from the Idlib dmz, they say; oh, it must be staged by Russia, they must have sent some special ops to man the fortifications of the terrorists so they could launch some rockets at the government controlled Aleppo! ROFLMFAO! insane world we are living in. seems like; hayat tahrir al sham has decided that staging an attack on themselves will not fly without real proof anymore, so what better way to get rid of the chemical weapons they were given to stage the false flag attack, then to shoot them at the hated nuseyri alawite dogs who support their legal sovereign government.


Selective outrage? Recent toxic strike in Aleppo doesn't grip MSM attention

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[Klompen]

They just keep trying to push the "WMD" narrative over and over and over again. Its becoming so obvious and yet they just keep hoping its enough to blind the public to what they're really.

 

[gaiusmarius]

Haa le lul yaa!

i saw the report about Trumps tweet to this effect on RT a few hours ago, i see yahoo has decided it's also worth reporting on.

as for me, ill believe it when i see it. the US has taken many actions that indicate long term plans to stay on the land they have stolen and occupied from the Syrian Arab Republic.

the US getting out of Syria is the one thing that can still lead to peace breaking out in Syria instead of this horrible perpetual war which the US is feeding, along with the rest of the regime change war mafia.

Trump to announce US will withdraw troops from Syria: Officials

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-ann...-official-150702522--abc-news-topstories.html

President Donald Trump will announce that the U.S. will withdraw troops from Syria on Wednesday, two U.S. officials confirm.

There is no timeline yet for the pace of the withdrawal, the officials said.

The president's move comes after his phone call Friday with Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Erodogan' statement that Turkey would launch a military operation against U.S.-backed Kurdish fighters in northeast Syria "within a few days,"

There are about 2,000 U.S. troops in eastern Syria advising and assisting the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in the fight against ISIS. The first U.S. troops arrived in Syria under the Obama administration in October 2015. The original force of 50 U.S. advisers grew to an official level of more than 500, though it had actually grown beyond that figure to approximately 2,000 over the following year.

Arriving at the Pentagon on Wednesday for meetings with Defense Secretary James Mattis and other top military officials, Vice President Mike Pence ignored shouted questions from reporters about the possible withdrawal.

Trump tweeted Wednesday morning that ISIS has been "defeated," saying it was "my only reason for being there during my presidency."

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders put out a statement later Wednesday morning repeating the president's claim that the caliphate had been "defeated," adding that U.S. troops have started returning home as a "transition to the next phase of the campaign."

“Five years ago, ISIS was a very powerful and dangerous force in the Middle East, and now the United States has defeated the territorial caliphate. These victories over ISIS in Syria do not signal the end of the Global Coalition or its campaign," Sanders said. "We have started returning United States troops home as we transition to the next phase of this campaign. The United States and our allies stand ready to re-engage at all levels to defend American interests whenever necessary, and we will continue to work together to deny radical Islamist terrorists territory, funding, support, and any means of infiltrating our borders.”

Despite those claims about ISIS being "defeated," the State Department and Pentagon officials cautioned as recently as last week that the fight against ISIS was not over -- with the coalition recently estimated that about 2,000 ISIS fighters remain in Syria.

"Even as the end of the physical caliphate is clearly now coming into sight, the end of ISIS will be a much more long-term initiative," Brett McGurk, the Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS, said at a State Department briefing last week. "We’ve talked about that many times. Nobody working on these issues day to day is complacent. Nobody is declaring a mission accomplished."

And a Department of Defense spokesperson told ABC News in a statement last Wednesday that "the campaign against ISIS is not over" as U.S. and SDF forces continue offensive operations against ISIS in the Middle Euphrates River Valley near the city of Hajin.

"We should not and cannot allow ISIS to breathe at this critical point or we will jeopardize the significant gains we have made alongside our Coalition partners and risk allowing ISIS to resurge," the spokesperson said.

One of Trump's usual allies on Capitol Hill, South Carolina Republican Lindsey Graham, was quick to criticize the president' move an "Obama-like mistake."

“If these media reports are true, it will be an Obama-like mistake made by the Trump Administration. While American patience in confronting radical Islam may wane, the radical Islamists’ passion to kill Americans and our allies never wavers," Graham said in a statement.

“An American withdrawal at this time would be a big win for ISIS, Iran, Bashar al Assad of Syria, and Russia. I fear it will lead to devastating consequences for our nation, the region, and throughout the world," Graham said.

(MORE: Trump orders strike on Syria in response to chemical attack )

In March, Trump caught most senior members of his administration off guard when he publicly announced his intention to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria “like, very soon,” sending officials scrambling to square the president’s declaration with U.S. policy. The move also contradicted his own previous criticism of President Obama for forecasting U.S. military actions.

The decision to withdraw U.S. forces comes at a moment of rising tensions between the U.S. and Turkey in northeast Syria.

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President Donald Trump will announce that the U.S. will withdraw troops from Syria on Wednesday, two U.S. officials confirm.

There is no timeline yet for the pace of the withdrawal, the officials said.

The president's move comes after his phone call Friday with Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Erodogan' statement that Turkey would launch a military operation against U.S.-backed Kurdish fighters in northeast Syria "within a few days,"

PHOTO: President Recep Tayyip Erdogan speaks about the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi during his weekly parliamentary address, Oct. 23, 2018, in Ankara, Turkey. (Getty Images)
There are about 2,000 U.S. troops in eastern Syria advising and assisting the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in the fight against ISIS. The first U.S. troops arrived in Syria under the Obama administration in October 2015. The original force of 50 U.S. advisers grew to an official level of more than 500, though it had actually grown beyond that figure to approximately 2,000 over the following year.

PHOTO: U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Jamie Jarrard (L), thanks Manbij Military Council commander Muhammed Abu Adeel during a visit to a small outpost near the town of Manbij, northern Syria, Feb. 7, 2018. (Susannah George/AP)
Arriving at the Pentagon on Wednesday for meetings with Defense Secretary James Mattis and other top military officials, Vice President Mike Pence ignored shouted questions from reporters about the possible withdrawal.

Trump tweeted Wednesday morning that ISIS has been "defeated," saying it was "my only reason for being there during my presidency."


White House press secretary Sarah Sanders put out a statement later Wednesday morning repeating the president's claim that the caliphate had been "defeated," adding that U.S. troops have started returning home as a "transition to the next phase of the campaign."

“Five years ago, ISIS was a very powerful and dangerous force in the Middle East, and now the United States has defeated the territorial caliphate. These victories over ISIS in Syria do not signal the end of the Global Coalition or its campaign," Sanders said. "We have started returning United States troops home as we transition to the next phase of this campaign. The United States and our allies stand ready to re-engage at all levels to defend American interests whenever necessary, and we will continue to work together to deny radical Islamist terrorists territory, funding, support, and any means of infiltrating our borders.”

Despite those claims about ISIS being "defeated," the State Department and Pentagon officials cautioned as recently as last week that the fight against ISIS was not over -- with the coalition recently estimated that about 2,000 ISIS fighters remain in Syria.

"Even as the end of the physical caliphate is clearly now coming into sight, the end of ISIS will be a much more long-term initiative," Brett McGurk, the Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS, said at a State Department briefing last week. "We’ve talked about that many times. Nobody working on these issues day to day is complacent. Nobody is declaring a mission accomplished."

And a Department of Defense spokesperson told ABC News in a statement last Wednesday that "the campaign against ISIS is not over" as U.S. and SDF forces continue offensive operations against ISIS in the Middle Euphrates River Valley near the city of Hajin.

"We should not and cannot allow ISIS to breathe at this critical point or we will jeopardize the significant gains we have made alongside our Coalition partners and risk allowing ISIS to resurge," the spokesperson said.

One of Trump's usual allies on Capitol Hill, South Carolina Republican Lindsey Graham, was quick to criticize the president' move an "Obama-like mistake."

“If these media reports are true, it will be an Obama-like mistake made by the Trump Administration. While American patience in confronting radical Islam may wane, the radical Islamists’ passion to kill Americans and our allies never wavers," Graham said in a statement.

“An American withdrawal at this time would be a big win for ISIS, Iran, Bashar al Assad of Syria, and Russia. I fear it will lead to devastating consequences for our nation, the region, and throughout the world," Graham said.

(MORE: Trump orders strike on Syria in response to chemical attack )

In March, Trump caught most senior members of his administration off guard when he publicly announced his intention to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria “like, very soon,” sending officials scrambling to square the president’s declaration with U.S. policy. The move also contradicted his own previous criticism of President Obama for forecasting U.S. military actions.

The decision to withdraw U.S. forces comes at a moment of rising tensions between the U.S. and Turkey in northeast Syria.

PHOTO: Soldiers of the U.S-backed Syrian Manbij Military Council, a part of the SDF, stand next to a U.S. humvee at a U.S. military outpost on a road leading to the front lines between Syria and Turkish backed fighter,north of Manbij, Syria. (Hussein Malla/AP)
Last week, the Pentagon announced it had established observation posts in northeast Syria near the Turkish border because the U.S. wanted to warn the Turks of individuals moving in that area, namely Kurdish fighters who belong to a force that Turkey considers to be an element of a terrorist group. But some of those Kurdish fighters also serve in the U.S.-backed SDF.

In the past, skirmishes between Turkey and the Kurds along the Turkish-Syrian border drew Kurdish fighters away from the final offensive against ISIS, even causing the U.S.-backed fighting force to suspend their operations for a short time.

Trump spoke with Erdogan on Friday about Turkey's security concerns in Syria, according to a readout of that conversation from the White House.

"The Presidents agreed to continue coordinating to achieve our respective security objectives in Syria," the readout continued.

ABC News' Alexander Mallin and Mariam Khan contributed to this report.

 

[gaiusmarius]

and another story on this, but again, ill believe it when i see it, this isn't the first time Trump said he will order the end to this illegal US occupation of Syrian land. last time, the deep state told him to get fucked, basically they were like; "the US will stay for ever!" so, lets see what comes of the presidents orders this time round.

Trump orders US troops to leave Syria as White House declares victory over ISIS there

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-ann...-official-150702522--abc-news-topstories.html

LUIS MARTINEZ, ELIZABETH MCLAUGHLIN and CONOR FINNEGAN,Goo

The Pentagon announced Wednesday that it has started the process of withdrawing all 2,000 U.S. troops from Syria after the White House confirmed President Donald Trump had given the surprise order to leave because ISIS there had been "defeated."

The announcement was met with backlash from Capitol Hill, especially from Republican senators, and Wednesday afternoon Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker, R-Tenn., was headed to the White House for an unscheduled meeting with the president.

President Trump's decision followed a phone call with Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan last Friday which triggered the decision, a U.S. official told ABC News. During that call, Trump told Erdogan that he was planning to pull U.S. troops out of Syria, a senior Turkish official said.

“Five years ago, ISIS was a very powerful and dangerous force in the Middle East, and now the United States has defeated the territorial caliphate," White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said in a statement. "These victories over ISIS in Syria do not signal the end of the Global Coalition or its campaign.”

Earlier Wednesday, amid breaking news reports about the withdrawal, Trump tweeted that ISIS has been "defeated" in Syria, saying it was "my only reason for being there during the Trump Presidency."

Chief Pentagon spokesperson Dana White said in a statement on Wednesday that the U.S. had "started the process of returning U.S. troops home from Syria." Once officially ordered by Defense Secretary James Mattis, the withdrawal would be completed within 30 days, an official told ABC News.

A second U.S. official said the withdrawal would be dependent on the security environment for the American units, so that it's safe for them to leave. Mattis has not yet signed the orders that would trigger the actual withdrawal, those officials said, though they have been drafted by the Joint Staff.

The State Department is already beginning to pull out the dozen U.S. diplomats from Syria who were running programs to stabilize areas liberated from ISIS, a third U.S. official told ABC News.

Trump's call with Erdogan on Friday followed a week of rising tension with Ankara, including the Turkish leader saying he would launch a military operation against U.S.-backed Kurdish fighters in northeast Syria "within a few days."

The third official told ABC News that the call made it clear that Trump never bought into the idea of keeping U.S. troops in Syria, despite officials believing they had convinced him otherwise.

While Erdogan and other world leaders such as Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu were alerted to the president's impending decision earlier, some top U.S. officials were unaware until Tuesday.

Later on Wednesday, the State Department also announced an intended $3.5 billion sale of the U.S. Patriot missile system to Turkey.

There are about 2,000 U.S. troops in eastern Syria advising and assisting the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in the fight against ISIS. The first U.S. troops arrived in Syria under the Obama administration in October 2015. The original force of 50 U.S. advisers grew to an official level of more than 500, though it actually grew beyond that figure to approximately 2,000 over the following year.

rriving at the Pentagon on Wednesday for meetings with Mattis and other top military officials, Vice President Mike Pence ignored shouted questions from reporters about the possible withdrawal.

State Department and Pentagon officials had cautioned as recently as last week that the fight against ISIS is not over -- with the coalition recently estimating that about 2,000 ISIS fighters remain in Syria.

"Even as the end of the physical caliphate is clearly now coming into sight, the end of ISIS will be a much more long-term initiative," Brett McGurk, special presidential envoy for the global coalition to defeat ISIS, said at a State Department briefing last week. "We’ve talked about that many times. Nobody working on these issues day to day is complacent. Nobody is declaring a mission accomplished."

A Department of Defense spokesperson told ABC News in a statement last Wednesday that "the campaign against ISIS is not over" as U.S. and SDF forces continue offensive operations against ISIS in the Middle Euphrates River Valley near the city of Hajin.

"We should not and cannot allow ISIS to breathe at this critical point or we will jeopardize the significant gains we have made alongside our Coalition partners and risk allowing ISIS to resurge," the spokesperson said.

One of Trump's usual allies on Capitol Hill, South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, was quick to criticize the president' move as an "Obama-like mistake."

“If these media reports are true, it will be an Obama-like mistake made by the Trump Administration. While American patience in confronting radical Islam may wane, the radical Islamists’ passion to kill Americans and our allies never wavers," Graham said in a statement.

“An American withdrawal at this time would be a big win for ISIS, Iran, Bashar al Assad of Syria, and Russia. I fear it will lead to devastating consequences for our nation, the region, and throughout the world," Graham said.

In March, Trump caught most senior members of his administration off guard when he publicly announced his intention to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria “like, very soon,” sending officials scrambling to square the president’s declaration with U.S. policy.

Last week during the rising tensions between Washington and Ankara, the Pentagon announced it had established observation posts in northeast Syria near the Turkish border because the U.S. wanted to warn the Turks of individuals moving in that area, namely Kurdish fighters who belong to a force that Turkey considers to be an element of a terrorist group. But some of those Kurdish fighters also serve in the U.S.-backed SDF.

In the past, skirmishes between Turkey and the Kurds along the Turkish-Syrian border drew Kurdish fighters away from the final offensive against ISIS, even causing the U.S.-backed fighting force to suspend their operations for a short time.

"The argument can be made that -- by leaving Syria -- we have placed our allies, the Kurds, at greater risk of being targeted by Turkey," said ABC News contributor John Cohen, the former acting undersecretary for intelligence and a former counterterrorism coordinator at the Department of Homeland Security.

In addition to Trump telling Erdogan he was going to pull U.S. troops out of Syria, the two leaders also spoke about Turkey's security concerns there, according to a readout of that conversation the White House released on Friday.

"The Presidents agreed to continue coordinating to achieve our respective security objectives in Syria," the readout continued.

ABC News' Rym Momtaz, Alexander Mallin, and Mariam Khan contributed to this report.

 

[St. Phatty]

Trump orders US troops to leave Syria as White House declares victory over ISIS there

The US gov. barely hides the connection between the US & ISIS.

They have 1 or 2 intermediaries to coordinate the Killer ISIS Bad Guys - Saudi Arabia & Israel.

Amazing that the US general public buys such a simplistic line of BS about their supposed enemies.

 

[White Beard]

Haa le lul yaa!

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-ann...-official-150702522--abc-news-topstories.html

The actual news was rushed past to get into the pie fight faster, I guess: Chump was told by Erdogan that Turkey was coming for the Kurds in Syria, so he bails on the Kurds, declares victory in Syria, and orders everyone home before the scheduled massacre. People in Syria expect the resurgence of ISIS.

That’s the story. Everything else is spin.

 

[igrowone]

The actual news was rushed past to get into the pie fight faster, I guess: Chump was told by Erdogan that Turkey was coming for the Kurds in Syria, so he bails on the Kurds, declares victory in Syria, and orders everyone home before the scheduled massacre. People in Syria expect the resurgence of ISIS.

That’s the story. Everything else is spin.

don't know how accurate this is
but it does have the feel of something that our prince of darkness could go with
and when he changes his mind(because he's told to), should be quite the mess
ww3 tonight? hoping there's at least an internet to wake up to

 

[White Beard]

From the first item shared by Gaius:

The president's move comes after his phone call Friday with Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Erodogan' statement that Turkey would launch a military operation against U.S.-backed Kurdish fighters in northeast Syria "within a few days,"

From the second item shared by Gaius:

President Trump's decision followed a phone call with Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan last Friday which triggered the decision, a U.S. official told ABC News. During that call, Trump told Erdogan that he was planning to pull U.S. troops out of Syria, a senior Turkish official said.

The US has long “supported” the Kurds, whose ethnic homeland was carved up in the creation of the now-current states, following the WW1 armistice. That support has mostly been in the form of using them when convenient, as in the 2003 invasion of Iraq and now in Syria.

 

[Elmer Bud]

G `day Gaius

Same , same after Bush war 1 .
They told the Kurds to have an uprising while Saddam was licking his wounds .

They got gassed ...



EB .

 

[Klompen]

Once again the Kurds are utterly fucked for siding with America. When will they learn that we always betray them?

 

[gaiusmarius]

The actual news was rushed past to get into the pie fight faster, I guess: Chump was told by Erdogan that Turkey was coming for the Kurds in Syria, so he bails on the Kurds, declares victory in Syria, and orders everyone home before the scheduled massacre. People in Syria expect the resurgence of ISIS.

That’s the story. Everything else is spin.

if this isn't just fake news.

who should the Kurds blame but themselves. they were the ones deciding to side with a foreign occupier against their motherland. i been saying from the start the Kurds are heading for disaster in the whole region with their behavior. they could have been Syrian heros, but instead they sided with foreigners to help destroy their own nation by giving the foreigners a foot hold. this is treason. so what ever happens to them is their own fault.

 

[gaiusmarius]

i will predict it here, if the US actually closes down her occupation of Syrian land, the Syrian Arab republic will be at peace inside 12 months.

Kurds will be forced to be reasonable, they won't get what they could have gotten if they had been smart and if they had not let greed make their strategic decisions. there was a moment when they could have rejoined the Syrian republic and been welcomed back as heroes who deserve autonomy. but instead they decided to go down the path of traitors to Syria, the nation that gave them refuge from the Turks and the Iraqi dictator Sadam.

isis will no longer be able to use the al Tanf US exclusion zone to hide and recuperate from the Syrian arab army,

al qaida will lose huge amount of weapons and ammo being smuggled and sold to them by US proxi terrorists in Syria. also the Saudis and Qataris will stop the money flow once they realize it's a hopeless cause.

Idlib terrorists will realize that it's time to negotiate for real

Isis will be completely and utterly destroyed as they no longer have safe spaces to hide in in the US controlled area in the north and al Tanf in the east

oh yes, the Syrian Arab Republic will control it's own borders again, allowing the US trade blockade to be broken and trade relationships to be resumed with neighbors.

don't be fooled by pundits saying this exit will be like the OBama one in Iraq, the situations are not the same, the SSA has Russia on it's side and the SSA has had 8 years of extreme training in the red hot cauldron fanatical regime change war. if not for the US stopping the SSA, the SSA would clear out those last pockets of isis in a matter of weeks. they have proven it over and over.

this is actually the first good thing Trump wants to do in the middle east, don't let war mongers like Lindsey Graham tell you otherwise. even the Turkish occupation can be dealt with once the US leaves it's illegal occupation.

as for that idiot Macron, who thinks his French soldiers will replace the US in Syria, can be shown the error of his way's, if he even stays in power much longer. maybe the Assad curse will work it's magic on Macron, just like it did on Obama, Holland and Cameron, who were all screaming; Assad must go! while in the end it was their asses who went first, lmao.

i imagine that it will still take a while, but no one can replace the US in Syria, so yeah, once the last US occupiers leaves, it won't take more then 6 months for the rest of Syria's illegal occupiers to see reason, one way or another.

but all that depends on Trump staying strong. im sure the whole deep state is doing everything they can to stop this going ahead. as Putin said, they have talked about leaving Afghanistan nearly every year for 17 years now, but it never actually happens, so we will have to wait and see.

Trump could get a good win from this, as people would see peace return to Syria, refugees going home even faster then they are now. he could take all the credit for the work being done on the ground.

but yeah, his throthing at the mouth war hawk generals and staff will probably find a way to put paid to this plan. maybe some new staged attack will take place just in time to change Trumps mind.

 

[White Beard]

if this isn't just fake news.

who should the Kurds blame but themselves. they were the ones deciding to side with a foreign occupier against their motherland. i been saying from the start the Kurds are heading for disaster in the whole region with their behavior. they could have been Syrian heros, but instead they sided with foreigners to help destroy their own nation by giving the foreigners a foot hold. this is treason. so what ever happens to them is their own fault.

Kurds used to live in their own region, ruled by the ottomans. Under mandate from the League of Nations, Britain carved it up, breaking the population into now-Syrian, now-Turkish and now-Iraqi territories.

Since then, the Kurds have tried for self-government, for autonomous regions, etc. and have been attacked and marginalized for their trouble. And now you say they should blame THEMSELVES?

Kinda like blaming black Americans for not wanting to be shot dead in the streets - after all, they knew they were black when they left the house, so *what* did they expect?

 

[packerfan79]

Seems like Trump is making the same mistake Obama made. Who in their right mind warns the enemy when they are leaving. The broadcasted pullout from Iraq fueled the spread of ISIS. Trump is looking for a distraction, and a little goodwill from his opponents. It's stupid, Trump could give every dollar he and his family have to the American people. And implement a party line Democratic agenda and they will still attack him at every turn. It's not about right vs. Left. Its about in the beltway(swamp) and out. Trump isn't in the club, so he's never going to have mainstream support from the DC crowd.

 

[Klompen]

Well put White Beard.

I would add that the other issue is that ISIS was literally wiping them out, and leaving them with no other option than to defend themselves. They were cut off from Assad in many places and even had they wanted to let the SAA defend the region, it wasn't an option. They had to make a deal with the Americans or air cover wasn't going to be available. It didn't ultimately matter to them in terms of survival if the USA also made the threat they were facing; the USA offered a lifeline and they needed it.

Lets not be naive and say the Kurds are without sins, but overall they're people who simply don't have a homeland because of foreign invaders arbitrarily dividing up their land.

 

[Badfishy1]

Seems like Trump is making the same mistake Obama made. Who in their right mind warns the enemy when they are leaving. The broadcasted pullout from Iraq fueled the spread of ISIS. Trump is looking for a distraction, and a little goodwill from his opponents. It's stupid, Trump could give every dollar he and his family have to the American people. And implement a party line Democratic agenda and they will still attack him at every turn. It's not about right vs. Left. Its about in the beltway(swamp) and out. Trump isn't in the club, so he's never going to have mainstream support from the DC crowd.

Actually Trump is pushing Israel out of the nest. I applaud him for doing so. Basically he told Bibi if you want to keep trying to expand your borders into golan heights you have to do it by your own damn self. If you want to keep invading foreign lands, do it. But be careful with what you do because Russia has already warned you bomb Syria, we will retaliate on Israeli soil...

 

[gaiusmarius]

sorry but it doesn't matter why they took the path they took, the fact is they went down the road to treason. there is no excuse for it, even if you commit treason under torture, you still get declared guilty of treason. the Kurds, just like the Yazidis, the Christians, the Armenians, the Turkmen, the Syriac, the Druz, the Alawites, the Shia, and the sunnis in Syria are Syrians first and formost. what will happen if all the 20 minority groups now decide they want a piece of Syria for their own? if the Kurds had been wise they would have their autonomy guaranteed already, but they wanted to have 25% of Syrian oil and gas reserves for their own even though they are no more then 6% of the population, thats why they opened the door to foreign invaders, sheer greed and trust in the US being there for ever to help them keep their ill gotten gains, while the rest of the Syrian people are deprived of the benefits said resources should be bringing the whole nation.

 

[gaiusmarius]

Syria never mistreated her Kurds like the Turks and the Iraqis did. hence Syrian Kurds had no legitimate reason to become rebels and traitors to the Syrian constitution and people.

 

[subrob]

Now the Kurds are getting the blame. Jesus fukn Christ.

 

[Badfishy1]

Now the Kurds are getting the blame. Jesus fukn Christ.

Well +1 for you sir (wtf timeline are we in where I’m begrudgingly agreeing with you)