Update, still need help!

[TommyTwoTokes]

Heres the same Apollo 11s a week since my last pics. They are looking far worse IMO .
I gave them nothing but bubbled tap water since my last post.

this happened to me once before about 8 months ago with LCs mix. It started out with twisting leaves. Now they are all super drooped, not close to that nice flat look you want to see. The leaves themselves feel crispy, and thin.
My tent is a flora corp mylar lined, is there off gassing problems with them as well?

I was out of my usual lime, so I took a trip to the local hydro shop and bought up a small prepowdered container of lime. This particular lime was pure white and had "1 half cup per cu ft of soil" written on the lid. Not wanting to stray at all from the recipe i jus t put in th e 1 cup as usual despite the instructions on the container.
Maybe this lime wasnt dolomitic?
looks like cal/magnesium to me.. what do you guys think?

Im just going through my st eps to thi s specific batch of LCs mix to make sure I didnt mess it up somehow.
Everything else was exactly to the recipe. I use a big bowl that holds 3 litres(quarts) of water to mix with.

 

[guest2012y]

If it wasn't dolomite......it's probably that fu*ked up hydrolyzed lime,not something you want to use in pots.

Use the powdered dolomite.....or the lime mix CC uses.

 

[TommyTwoTokes]

If that is the problem, what can I do about it now?
anyone have any ideas? Could there be a lockout because of it?

I want to water tonight because they need it. Lights out at midnight. I want to wait to see if any advice gets thown on the table before I soak them down.

 

[guest2012y]

Transplant immediately into soil with dolomite at the recommended percentage, OR use CC's recommended 3-way Solomon's lime mix - in a new mix immediately!

 

[Zendo]

As others said, transplant now.

 

[Batboy]

What kind of pots are those? Any chance that it's just overwatering?

 

[TommyTwoTokes]

They're actually rose pots I believe.
They're 2 gallons, and seem to made of a compressed cardboard/paper
The relative humidity is kinda low (35%) so I water once every 4-5 days.
I dont think its over watering.
If you look at the pics, the leaves are yellowing in between the veins... with heavy purple stiff stems.

 

[vonforne]

If that is the problem, what can I do about it now?
anyone have any ideas? Could there be a lockout because of it?

I want to water tonight because they need it. Lights out at midnight. I want to wait to see if any advice gets thown on the table before I soak them down.

transplant into new freshly mixed soil and use the right ingredients without deviating from the recipe. And do it when you are not sttttoned.

V

 

[vonforne]

with heavy purple stiff stems

P deficiency.

 

[TommyTwoTokes]

I just got back with some EWC unfortunately i could only find en ough for a half a cu ft.
Before I go down stairs and mix this I have a question:
I dont have a 3 quart sauce pan (I know) so ive been using a large plastic bowl that holds approximately 3 litres.
1 quart is basically 1 litre correct? Is okay to use this for my 'part' size for this recipe?
last but not least, I have no liquid karma, and the drive is over an hour to my closest hydroshop... The only thing I have with humic acids is Original Pure Blend grow... How important is the liquid karma/humic acid? Can I wet the dry mix for the first time with a very weak shot of Pure Blend grow?

 

[TommyTwoTokes]

*bump*
anyone? B1, V, Suby?
Im waiting to mix new soil, in case I need to drive way the hell out of the way to my local hydro shop.

 

[santasapimp]

u can use anything for parts

just make sure u use the recommended parts (5peat/3perl/2ewc) so

5 big bowl peat (broken up no fist sized chunks)
3 big bowl perl
2 big bowl ewc


what you do have to find out is how many gallons you have for calculating the lime and ferts

1gallon:4 litres (approx)

those plants arent even bad looking..

 

[TommyTwoTokes]

what you do have to find out is how many gallons you have for calculating the lime and ferts

1gallon:4 litres (approx)

Exactly. Im using Promix bx so its 6-2-2 but yes the reason I was trying to use a 3 quart container is so I could just dump in a cup of lime and my dry ferts.
It gets confusing and much more complicated if I dont use the 1 cubic foot at a time.

Ill ask again, if I find a container that holds three litres of water, is that equal to 3 quart sauce pan recommended by Burn1?

 

[santasapimp]

google the conversion u want like quarts to cubic feet (3 quart = .1 cf)

theres over 25 liters maybe even 30 in a cubic foot idk 62 L = 2.2 CF (half bale)

so u might want to find a 1 cf bucket fill it with equal parts and then lime/fert

 

[Zendo]

google....
1 liter = 1.05668821 US quarts

 

[TommyTwoTokes]

I got it under control I think.
I just cut 25 clones. Now Im going to trip the lights and find out what I have for females/males while the cuttings root up.
Im short on time for tonight, so tomorrow in the morning Ill mix up a fresh batch of soil.
Hopefully this time I dont mess it up.
thanks to everyone who stopped by.

how essential is the liquid karma? Can I just wet the new soil mix with plain water with a little molasses?

 

[santasapimp]

why dont you put the clones on 12/12 to figure out the sex of your seedlings

seedlings have vigor!

LK is expensive 30$ a quart, i was advised to follow the recipe exactly. so i bought it

 

[TommyTwoTokes]

why dont you put the clones on 12/12 to figure out the sex of your seedlings

seedlings have vigor!

LK is expensive 30$ a quart, i was advised to follow the recipe exactly. so i bought it

Originally that was my plan I only have about 5 weeks to ready myself for outside, as well as fill my tent for an indoor run or two.
I cut the clones today, so itll be at least a week before they root. Which way would be faster? Im just trying to speed things up as fast as possible. Seedlings have vigor but tripping the light on my clones could take almost a months including rooting and everything.
Sorry guys I second guess myself because im green.
thanks for the help Santa. +K

It seems I'll be making the two hour drive for the LK. To be perfectly honest I've never used liquid karma in my LCs mix. I think ive mixed up about 6-7 cu feet in the last 18 months. It could be what ive been missing all this time lol. (hopefully)

 

[santasapimp]

5 weeks is plenty of time your golden.

you dont have to root the clones first you could cut and put directly 12/12 and in 2 weeks ull know the sex of your seedlings if you have the clones labbeled.

if it were me id sex the clones then stick them in a indoor tent and let them finish flowering youll get about an oz per clone of nice sticky buds, not alot of trimming!, and everything will stay short.

tripping the lighsts on your seeds could cause problems aswell. if a plant starts to flower, it shouldnt be reverted to veg. this will delay harvest indoors and out

 

[TommyTwoTokes]

So my cuttings will show sex without roots?
Ive carefully labeled everything so I know whats what.
I wanted to sex these clones then cut one more batch of cuttings for outside, everything left over is going into my 4.5x4.5 mylar tent under the 1000 sodium.

I understand that tripping the lights on the seed plants stress and even stunt the growth. I dont want any hermies. Trust me.

Maybe what Ill do is sex the clones, flower them out, and in the meantime cut more clones and use them for outside, and keep the seed plants for moms?

I want to mix soil for these clones but I have no way of getting to the hydroshop until friday. ARG.
I dont think the soil will 'cook' as well without the Liquid Karma.

Im stressin!

Santa big thanks, it seems as though you're the only one with patience to help me.