Trump implies that he might legalize cannabis.

[Duggy Dinsdale]

it's not a handout or entitlement if you pay into it

Police, Sheriff, Fire, Public Schools, streets/roads/highways, city/county management... way too many to list.

I agree that the corruption isn't controlled. That's a huge failure and I resent lazy worthless users too. However, I do believe those who can't support themselves deserve help, especially if they paid into the system their entire lives.

I'm not sure what I previously wrote would indicate I think otherwise. I just don't agree that Trump is the answer to our problems. I also disagree that having social services is worse than the one percent fleecing us all.

Sanders' mistake was/is calling himself a 'Democratic Socialist'. What most folks refuse to see/accept is that the USA is already greatly Socialistic... including so-called Conservative Republicans.

Cannavore... It depends on how much you pay into it over the duration of your working life, compared to how much you take.


There are some good social programs in place, right across the western world. As you have listed. But everything has it's limits. Take a look at California... Standing on the outside looking in, it doesn't look good. Sanctuary cities, Taxpaying citizens leaving the state, due to higher taxes. When you have too many people free loading off the system, and not enough contributing, things get messy real fast. I do feel sorry for those who are genuinely trying to have a go.

 

[Duggy Dinsdale]

from someone seeing this from afar...LOL...

we are still stunned you guys elected an immature, selfish, egomaniac in the first place...

you guys got the 2nd Amendment to protect from tyranny...but voted in the tyrant...

anyway wish you all the best

Hillary lost the election, didn't you hear.

 

[Rubber Chicken]

i just LOVE the sound of liberals crying in the morning. keep crying for the next 6 1/2 years.

Are you tired of 'winning' yet?

I honestly don't think many people could give a shit about democrat vs republican.

 

[jimdc]

Are you tired of 'winning' yet?

not tired of winning at all. when trump tames un and gets the nobel peace prize[that he will have EARNED unlike obama who was given 1 because they THOUGHT he would do good. they were wrong] what will you say? that he didnt do it soon enough?

 

[moose eater]

Could one partisan team or the other please lend me one of these crystal balls they seem to have, that foretells the future? I can't seem to locate one worth a damn in the local stores near me, and my Ouija Board was probably burned in a secret house raid by local Fundamentalists..

 

[Jhhnn]

who jumps in endlessly regurgitating alt-right fake news BS every time he needs to divert attention from reality???

It's Whataboutism & Gish galloping from one false talking point to another.

The subject is... Trump, right? When it gets a little warm for people who have an irrational affection for the guy they'll try to divert conversation to something, anything, else.

They're probably still chanting Lock Her Up! at Trump rallies.

I like Michael Moore's take on it-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Smz2oxT7wM

They believed in all sorts of lies before Trump & his Russian friends whipped 'em into a frenzy for the election. They've been expertly manipulated by GOP propagandists for decades, basically taught to look the wrong way.

What's happening is that we've been letting the financial elite, the "Job Creators" have their way with us more than we should have for nearly 40 years, and it shows. We let them have the lion's share of the financial fruits of technological progress. It's been ruthless top down class warfare & looting every inch of the way.

It's why the Rust Belt is rusty, isn't it? Job Creator Activity? That's right- they own, you don't, & when they move on to greener pastures & automate what's left, well, what you get is bumpkus. Oh, and don't try to get anything more out of us with government because government is bad, Mkay?

Just get some jobs, assholes. No, we're not hiring. Pay the rent & STFU.

 

[Rubber Chicken]

not tired of winning at all. when trump tames un and gets the nobel peace prize[that he will have EARNED unlike obama who was given 1 because they THOUGHT he would do good. they were wrong] what will you say? that he didnt do it soon enough?

Sorry

Why do you always bring up the past or other people?

What has it to do with anything?

I'm not American and have no allegiance to one 'side' or another anyway....

I just know a steaming turd when i see one.

 

[jimdc]

trump didnt HAVE to be president. he told oprah 20 years ago when she asked if he would ever run he said no unless he saw the US going downhill. he is a BILLIONARE. why would he want the shit he is getting from all sides when he could be living the life of luxury the rest of his days. because he CARES about america. he donates his salary to charity. has any other president done that? no. the jobs growth, businesses coming back, stock market, bonuses, pay raises, blacks, hispanics and women unemployment down, welfare recipients down[doubled under obama] etc................ i could go on and on. tell me how your life sucks under trump and tell me how it was better under obama. chicago[obamas home town]is STILL the murder capital of america yet has very strick gun laws. is it law abiding citizens committing all these murders? no. would the people committing these murders give up their guns if laws were passed? no. i could go on and on but dont want to because being a liberal means you lack common sense and are scared of facts.

 

[jimdc]

Sorry

Why do you always bring up the past or other people?

What has it to do with anything?

I'm not American and have no allegiance to one 'side' or another anyway....

I just know a steaming turd when i see one.

well then your opinion means shit. stay out of americas business

 

[moose eater]

I think I'll start a thread in Toker's Den entitled, "My Dad Can Kick Your Dad's Ass."

I'll be expecting at least as much humble reality-and-fact-based honest discourse therein..


And no matter your nationality, residence, or citizenship status, you're welcome to post in it. However, there may be a 1-gram admission fee.. ;^>) (*No lower potency than 17%, please... with extra posts awarded to those who bring sativas or haze-strains... or good hash.... or....).

 

[Jhhnn]

trump didnt HAVE to be president. he told oprah 20 years ago when she asked if he would ever run he said no unless he saw the US going downhill. he is a BILLIONARE. why would he want the shit he is getting from all sides when he could be living the life of luxury the rest of his days. because he CARES about america. he donates his salary to charity. has any other president done that? no. the jobs growth, businesses coming back, stock market, bonuses, pay raises, blacks, hispanics and women unemployment down, welfare recipients down[doubled under obama] etc................ i could go on and on. tell me how your life sucks under trump and tell me how it was better under obama. chicago[obamas home town]is STILL the murder capital of america yet has very strick gun laws. is it law abiding citizens committing all these murders? no. would the people committing these murders give up their guns if laws were passed? no. i could go on and on but dont want to because being a liberal means you lack common sense and are scared of facts.

You forgot to mention that he's a narcissist & an attention whore who hasn't found a way to screw it up.

 

[xavier7995]

Lol this thread. Superman...meet clark kent.

 

[brown_thumb]

You forgot to mention that he's a narcissist & an attention whore who hasn't found a way to screw it up.

And insanely power hungry. Why doesn't Trump hand over his businesses to his kids? After all, he's a billionaire so why does he need to keep dealing with all that business stress? As you point out... narcissism, greed, power, control, attention (Look at me, look at ME!!).

 

[Hermen_eutics]

trump didnt HAVE to be president. he told oprah 20 years ago when she asked if he would ever run he said no unless he saw the US going downhill. he is a BILLIONARE. why would he want the shit he is getting from all sides when he could be living the life of luxury the rest of his days. because he CARES about america. he donates his salary to charity. has any other president done that? no. the jobs growth, businesses coming back, stock market, bonuses, pay raises, blacks, hispanics and women unemployment down, welfare recipients down[doubled under obama] etc................ i could go on and on. tell me how your life sucks under trump and tell me how it was better under obama. chicago[obamas home town]is STILL the murder capital of america yet has very strick gun laws. is it law abiding citizens committing all these murders? no. would the people committing these murders give up their guns if laws were passed? no. i could go on and on but dont want to because being a liberal means you lack common sense and are scared of facts.

Gullible rube trump is a lying, greedy buffoon. Trump draws the praise of the dullest bigots, racists and poorly educated misogynists. His followers reveal their own toxic commitments and childlike fear praising a hideous human being who has spent his life lying, cheating and threatening.

Trump is so laughably phony even Fox mocks his desperate ineptitude:
Let me be clear, Mr. President,” Cavuto said. “How can you drain the swamp if you’re the one who keeps muddying the waters?

“You didn’t know about the $130,000 payment to a porn star, until you did,” he continued. “Said you knew nothing about how your former lawyer handled this, until you acknowledged today that you were the guy behind the retainer payment that took care of this. You insist that money from the campaign or campaign contributions played no role in this transaction. Of that you’re sure. The thing is, not even 24 hours ago, sir, you couldn’t recall any of this.”

 

[brown_thumb]

This is how I imagine a typical Trump board meeting...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRbc2Axh17M

 

[ozzieAI]

well then your opinion means shit.

all opinions have the same value....

 

[brown_thumb]

For folks who don't live in the USA, you may never have seen this television commercial. It's a real product. Americans buy it. I'm not joking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qv8RSreIM

 

[moose eater]

I'm seemingly constantly out of rep Ozzie, but the way I figure it, as much as the United States' policies, International and National, affect other nations every-friggin'-day, either with bombs/rockets, resource extraction, or money, arms, etc., supporting one leader or another (often questionable despots, at that), there's a great number of valid opinions out there, across many borders.

The day the U.S. minds its own business, honors other nations' sovereignty (that goes for Ds and Rs, by the way; regime change versus illegal invasions, you say tomato, I say to-maaaa-toe), the sooner we can legitimately tell others to mind their own business.

Until then, such commands are simply a matter of nationalists with blinders "wanting their cake and eating it too."

I've read your and rubber chicken's (and many other non-U.S. citizens') opinions here before, and I'd rather read many of them, than half the trash that gets posted.

Keep on posting!! If nothing else, many of you offer a non-partisan, non-nationalist objectivity that is sorely lacking in this Country, if you hadn't noticed... Though I strongly suspect you had... ;^>)

 

[Hermen_eutics]

For folks who don't live in the USA, you may never have seen this television commercial. It's a real product. Americans buy it. I'm not joking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qv8RSreIM

His followers love a butt full of dotard

 

[Jhhnn]

I think I'll start a thread in Toker's Den entitled, "My Dad Can Kick Your Dad's Ass."

I'll be expecting at least as much humble reality-and-fact-based honest discourse therein..


And no matter your nationality, residence, or citizenship status, you're welcome to post in it. However, there may be a 1-gram admission fee.. ;^>) (*No lower potency than 17%, please... with extra posts awarded to those who bring sativas or haze-strains... or good hash.... or....).

Like Kellyanne said early on, they have alternative facts to convince people to believe what they want them to believe. The actual thread topic is a great example of how that works. When Trump took office, the Cole memo was an official DoJ document, written policy that governed enforcement. That's gone, replaced by a verbal promise from Trump to Corey Gardner.

I mean, uh, you know, that seems like a step back from legalization, not a step forward. It's amazing that his fans manage to see it differently. They do that with a lot of things.