Tom Hill Haze

[Tom Hill]

....... too bad he hasn't been here in 2 yrs., would be nice if he were to respond.

Woulda been nicer if you just stayed out of it and allow me to deal with it when he was, twats.

 

[CosmicGiggle]

......... maybe dealing with a private business matter online in open forum isn't the best way to go about things.

 

[Tom Hill]

I fully informed you back then, some old school shit needs to go down. You totally disregarded those sacred words and blew me off locked me out of the info I needed and all that. Tsk tsk tsk.

 

[Tom Hill]

......... maybe dealing with a private business matter online in open forum isn't the best way to go about things.

Fuck all that I do not jump the gun in matters such as this when I come forward in public you can be damn sure it's fucking time to.

 

[Tom Hill]

Haze#19 never came straight away.....it come at least a year or year and a half after sam was in Holland..also it was a female clone...the seeds from the clone were given werenard...sam even polinated the plant himself with the pollen they give him....im sure if I remember right wernard and posi had another female haze clone to they were getting sam to use as well for them...ot1hz comes from the communes....ther were 3 batches he had...they came in 66-69......also by the way he mixed some of them up...inbred them.....ace worked them extensive too....once you start ibl-ing a hybrid it can get to the point it largely becomes its own thing...eg ...thai/mex/lumb1/lumbo2 x lumbo1 when inbred would start becoming mostly lumbo.....on phylos that would just match with the nearest lumbo.....you would also have the issue of the scents and high and vigour changing....and also the change between quality of the intial f1 compared to progeny from f6 or even f20.
By they way im not sure were this last grows of hz thing with ot1hz comes from as he said him self those were just test versions and not thee thing....they were still trying to develop an get to the one....so in order to do that growing is involved

Haze 19 come after I was there man, it was what they crossed out all that bullshit early Dutch shwag to. The first is straight up Sam seed, and Sam's words. The second is what those clowns ruined it into in record timing. That is the reality period end of.

 

[Tom Hill]

If you were there in '94 and not impressed with that junk 1 crap going around everywhere and focussed to cutting to the bone then you would know this. There was no such thing as haze 19 until '96. I was there in '94 grabbing original haze stock that Sam was selling there. I am tired of explaining to you guys who were not there and have no clue.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

If you were there in '94 and not impressed with that junk 1 crap going around everywhere and focussed to cutting to the bone then you would know this.

wat year you on about.....ther is a difference between the clone haze#19 and seeds made from it....sam had to land in holland...he came in 1984...took him a year or so to start getting the haze work going...he only had a dozen or so seed and open polinated them....all the clones were selected from that....posi chose to use 19.....some of us seen the clone....it was one female clone.....no male....#19 came from that grow of sams.....dude ive been around all them places a long time before 94.

 

[Tom Hill]

wat year you on about.....ther is a difference between the clone haze#19 and seeds made from it....sam had to land in holland...he came in 1984...took him a year or so to start getting the haze work going...he only had a dozen or so seed and open polinated them....all the clones were selected from that....posi chose to use 19.....some of us seen the clone....it was one female clone.....no male....#19 came from that grow of sams

No man you are dreaming. There is no mention of haze 19 anywhere until the '96 Positronics catalog. Show me different. The seed I bought was "original haze", a Mexican/Colombian/s. India/ Thai.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

No man you are dreaming. There is no mention of haze 19 anywhere until the '96 Positronics catalog. Show me different. The seed I bought was "original haze", a Mexican/Colombian/s. India/ Thai.

Why would there be any mention of it...it was sams own clone...it was supposed to be used as a parent to make his own haze seeds....he only gave posi acces to make hybrids with it....he even done the polinations himself on the clone and give them the seeds....

 

[Tom Hill]

Sam had suitcases full of seed. Sold a haze line through Positronics from the haze bro that used Sam's Thai. And didn't understand till years later it was the best lol.

 

[Tom Hill]

Why would there be any mention of it...it was sams own clone...it was supposed to be used as a parent to make his own haze seeds....

Believe you me, when Positronics started using the haze 19 clone in '95 the said so.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Ther are other clones of sams ...you herd of those...#13, #5

 

[Tom Hill]

The earlier stuff was Sam selling his own seed through them because they had just come out of the shwaggy ass dark ages that is the early Dutch canna scene.

 

[Tom Hill]

Ther are other clones of sams ...you herd of those...#13, #5

No, I don't care about other folks selections, especially Sam's, after sk1 lol.

 

[Tom Hill]

Anyway I was there, I am not a liar, and I take great offence at any implication of anything coming close to such. I am not mistaken, I am not confused. I am telling you the God damn truth and other mother fuckers are lieing, end of.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Anyway I was there, I am not a liar, and I take great offence at any implication of anything coming close to such. I am not mistaken, I am not confused. I am telling you the God damn truth and other mother fuckers are lieing, end of.

Your jumping the gun....you can only say what you know. .never said you were lying....grow all the haze batches together and see what the cominality is....and those traits that are individual and unique to each....you'll see what im saying is right....if your saying those traits that are unique to yours were ther in the beginning back in the usa before seed getting to Holland...well they will pop up at some point in the other batches....with you all ready on the gro im sure the guys will hook you up the other batches of ohz...plus you can check them out too

 

[Tom Hill]

Your jumping the gun....you can only say what you know. .never said you were lying....grow all the haze batches together and see what the cominality is....and those traits that are individual and unique to each....you'll see what im saying is right....if your saying those traits that are unique to yours were ther in the beginning back in the usa before seed getting to Holland...well they will pop up at some point in the other batches....with you all ready on the go im sure the guys will hook you up the other batches of ohz...plus you can check them out too

Huh? I not saying anything but that Thai is like 3 times better than Lumbo ever was lol. And Sam damn sure did release years of Thai heavy original haze in Holland. It's really good man.

 

[Tom Hill]

I just not gunna sit around watching folk backpedal about it or pretend like it did not happen or make me out to be a liar or even confused, it's simply not gunna happen.

 

[Tom Hill]

You hear that hard slap? We're gunna get that on a time tab, let's dance.

 

[Tom Hill]

It's probably best if you just don't even think about fucking with me guys you are in way over your heads.