To Vaccinate, or not to Vaccinate....?
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You do realize free energy has been suppressed for decades, that's why you won't find any "respected scientists" in this field.
But keep believing you're at the pinnacle of human evolution, stop looking and stick your heads deeper.
If you really want to debate whether these are crackpot theories or not, then please show me some scientific data that disproves for instance Tesla technology.
But keep believing you're at the pinnacle of human evolution, stop looking and stick your heads deeper.
If you really want to debate whether these are crackpot theories or not, then please show me some scientific data that disproves for instance Tesla technology.
What would be the point in that? Nobody said anything about Tesla other then you implying he's considered a crackpot.
The point being, there's one guy who has already utilized our electric universe and build working teslacoils until his documents and devices were taken and he was left dying alone and poor.
A new thread is probably needed for this debate, this one is about vaccines.
Sorry for derailing the thread on simply pointing out there are people making equations about the nature of our reality, and the current conventional model is full of flaws.
A new thread is probably needed for this debate, this one is about vaccines.
Sorry for derailing the thread on simply pointing out there are people making equations about the nature of our reality, and the current conventional model is full of flaws.
Free energy lol.
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GetUpStandUp
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This is not a attack on your post or your choice to feel the way you do, this is just an attempt to get you and others to see how much bigger it is than vaccination. See we all live in a controlled system period, to realize who is controlling you and society, and how they operate in past and in present then you can step back and see the bigger picture.
Point being generations upon generations of very private people run things, and it is proven these same ppl dont have an ounce of good in them, but yet all forms of governments, and laws are controlled by them, just look around dude the world is shite, and we have ppl like yourself saying WOOKIE things eventho you have that right, but fact is people do bring things to light should not be looked at as nonsense, but taken seriously enough to look into it. I will post a video at the bottom of this post, and this subject should be killed by it.
Yes to vaccinate would be ideal if you put your kids in harms way ie schools, out in public etc... the world is not safe with the over load of toxic man made and synthetic adnormalies in our lives, match that to a food system that has been degreded to mush, and crap to allow our own emmune systems to not work properly, you add those up you got death, just so happens you have a cure from all this madness in the hands of the few who control all the food, and toxic crap in our lives.
Has anyone gotten a ticket you really wanted to argue in court, and the court tells you DRIVING IS A PRIVLAGE! This is what I am saying, these few who control things think this way about us living, that it is a privilage. If you fail to head these words, and the video below, and your stance is still nonesense, then all my prayers indeed go out to you all, and pray for not just you, not just america, but the whole planet!
This video you must realize is talking of things that had been going on since the 50s, and notice all the documents, and powers that are in play, notice this same structure in every country not just america, this is sick, this is to powerful of a truth for any of us not to know wether you vaccinate or not!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F418hEVteFM&feature=related
GetUpStandUp
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Tho this thread is bout vaccines, you could not be so correct to bring another fact to the table which tho it only relates in relation to ppl in control, and how they do things. Tesla, and just bout every fortune 500 company own stocks, and we as the ppl think little, or care little if the leading tech company owns half of all phama stocks.I'm surprised any of you naysayers ever tried cannabis with a closed mind like that.
Why is it so hard to look at something from more than one perspective..
Heres another off subject fact, same piss you off knowledge that should awaking you to this world, and the ppl who run it. Look up the volkswagon jetta that is made in america, but sold in uk that gets 75 plus miles a gallon, but americans cant have this model here even if its made here, you can say why this is all you want, but its frickin apparent why this is, if you dont get it go to a gas station look up and read price!
Tesla has very much tons of tenticals that dont just make electric cars, or control technology, they are ahead of the game, and have been for long time, and this company is not american!
Vaccines are a surface problem, or debate, truth is ppl got to explore further, and deeper than the surface READ RESEARCH AND REAP!
Tela said:
Umm... sorry, no thanks.
One shot, one 'vaccination'... not a combo, and yes it was thimerisol free. Half her face swelled up for 2 days and 2.5 years later you can still see pronounced capillaries on her eyelids.
To this day I'm not happy I didn't do more research before birth. Never would have done it.
Stay Safe!
Italy have the same question in their courts regarding autism .
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.c...t-translation/
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Posted on May 23, 2012 by ChildHealthSafety
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The Italian Court Decision is not a “one-off”. People have forgotten – We have been here before.
Just posted 28/May/12 – Italy – Court Holds MMR Vaccine Causes Autism – IV: – BUT – So Has The USA – Some Autism History
Original CHS article now continues:
We present here a professional medical translation of the full text of the decision of the Italian Court of Rimini holding that the MMR vaccine causes autism in children. First a few observations.
The MMR vaccines used in Italy prior to 2007 were is Merck’s MMR II, GSK’s Priorix and Morupar, from Chiron [until the latter was withdrawn urgently on short notice by W.H.O. because it was unsafe: click here and here for copies of W.H.O. and other documents - [Green text updated 26/5/12]]. Morupar is a Urabe mumps virus strain containing vaccine, which is the type abandoned unilaterally and urgently in the UK in September 1992 by the manufacturer [a GSK company] for legal reasons because of the high levels of all kinds of adverse reactions it causes. It was done so urgently that the UK’s Department of Health was not even given a week to break the news. However, the kind of MMR vaccine Hannah Poling in the US received with 8 other vaccines on the same day would have been Merck’s MMR vaccine containing the Jeryl Lynn strain of mumps virus. [US Government In US$20 million Legal Settlement For Vaccine Caused Autism Case]
And here is the key part of the Italian Court’s judgement:
The medicolegal and auxilary medicolegal assessments must be conducted according to their merits, which, on the basis of an in depth examination of the case in the light of the specialist literature to date, has conclusively established that the young child is suffering from AUTISTIC DISORDER ASSOCIATED WITH MEDIUM COGNITIVE DELAY ascribed with reasonable scientific probability due to the administration of the vaccine MMR occurring on the date 26\3\2004 at the ALS of Riccione
It should also be acknowledged that the auxiliary evaluation pursuant to the Medical Commission has expressed the view that there is a permanent impairment of physical and mental integrity established, ascribed to the first category of Table A, attached to the DPR 30 \ 12 \ 81 n.834.
Now a further point to be made is that in common law jurisdictions like England, Australia, Canada and the USA and many more, a finding of fact by a Court of first instance is extremely difficult to overturn except in the case of manifest error or some other factor like fraud
Additionally, it appears the judgement of the Italian Court was by consent, which also appears to mean 1) the Italian health authorities did not contest the findings and 2) they cannot appeal. If a qualified Italian lawyer might like to comment here on CHS on whether that is a correct intepretation of the judgement that would be appreciated. The relevant part of the judgement is:
The case, informed through the production of documents and the testing of medical-legal advice, was discussed at today’s public hearing as a consent decree.
The English translation provided here has been kindly provided by Dr JLM Donegan.
Dr Donegan is the only English medical practitioner whose advice on vaccination issues has been found in a three week UK General Medical Council legal trial in August 2007 to the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt to be based on valid medical and scientific literature, not to be misleading and unaffected by any personal views Dr Donegan may hold – in other words Dr Donegan’s advice is independent, objective and unbiased. The findings in the case were most unusual. Instead of finding that the GMC prosecution’s case was not proven, the hearing panel made a positive finding and found in Dr Donegan’s favour to the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt that her defence was proven.
More information can be found here:
UK’s GMC, Dr Jayne Donegan’s Story, Vaccines & MMR
The hearing came about after Lord Justice Sedley in the English Court of Appeal condemned Dr Donegan’s evidence to the English Family Court as “junk science”. This was without Dr Donegan even being present, given any opportunity for comment or being represented. [So much for English justice].
The GMC’s expert witness at the GMC trial, Dr David Elliman, then of Great Ormond Street Hospital spent 5 months preparing an expert report against Dr Donegan for the August 2007 hearing for the purpose of having Dr Donegan’s medical licence revoked, only to be forced to admit in cross-examination that he was “quibbling” over a few details.
Interestingly, whilst Dr Elliman was spending all this time on his report for the GMC prosecution there were problems in the unit he managed at Gt Ormond St Hospital. Despite being warned by his professional staff he took no management action. This matter came to a head with what has become known as the scandal of the death of “Baby P”. In short a child died, killed as a result of extensive injuries over many months caused by child abuse by the partner of the child’s mother.
Dr Elliman has never been charged by the General Medical Council with anything nor has his licence to practise medicine been revoked. The UK’s General Medical Council appears to have done nothing whatsoever about this despite their main purpose being to regulate the conduct and practice of medical doctors to protect the public. Well, they did not protect “Baby P” and by doing nothing they will not protect all the other “Baby P’s” there may be in future. They did however spend millions of pounds getting Dr Wakefield’s licence revoked and now it appears that all along Dr Wakefield was right.
Here follows the translated judgement. Any observations on or suggestions for improvements to the translation or typographical or other errors would be appreciated as this has been prepared as rapidly as reasonably possible .
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.c...t-translation/
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Search Engine Submission - AddMe Italy – Court Holds MMR Vaccine Causes Autism – III: English Translation Of Court Decision
Posted on May 23, 2012 by ChildHealthSafety
STOP PRESS:
The Italian Court Decision is not a “one-off”. People have forgotten – We have been here before.
Just posted 28/May/12 – Italy – Court Holds MMR Vaccine Causes Autism – IV: – BUT – So Has The USA – Some Autism History
Original CHS article now continues:
We present here a professional medical translation of the full text of the decision of the Italian Court of Rimini holding that the MMR vaccine causes autism in children. First a few observations.
The MMR vaccines used in Italy prior to 2007 were is Merck’s MMR II, GSK’s Priorix and Morupar, from Chiron [until the latter was withdrawn urgently on short notice by W.H.O. because it was unsafe: click here and here for copies of W.H.O. and other documents - [Green text updated 26/5/12]]. Morupar is a Urabe mumps virus strain containing vaccine, which is the type abandoned unilaterally and urgently in the UK in September 1992 by the manufacturer [a GSK company] for legal reasons because of the high levels of all kinds of adverse reactions it causes. It was done so urgently that the UK’s Department of Health was not even given a week to break the news. However, the kind of MMR vaccine Hannah Poling in the US received with 8 other vaccines on the same day would have been Merck’s MMR vaccine containing the Jeryl Lynn strain of mumps virus. [US Government In US$20 million Legal Settlement For Vaccine Caused Autism Case]
And here is the key part of the Italian Court’s judgement:
The medicolegal and auxilary medicolegal assessments must be conducted according to their merits, which, on the basis of an in depth examination of the case in the light of the specialist literature to date, has conclusively established that the young child is suffering from AUTISTIC DISORDER ASSOCIATED WITH MEDIUM COGNITIVE DELAY ascribed with reasonable scientific probability due to the administration of the vaccine MMR occurring on the date 26\3\2004 at the ALS of Riccione
It should also be acknowledged that the auxiliary evaluation pursuant to the Medical Commission has expressed the view that there is a permanent impairment of physical and mental integrity established, ascribed to the first category of Table A, attached to the DPR 30 \ 12 \ 81 n.834.
Now a further point to be made is that in common law jurisdictions like England, Australia, Canada and the USA and many more, a finding of fact by a Court of first instance is extremely difficult to overturn except in the case of manifest error or some other factor like fraud
Additionally, it appears the judgement of the Italian Court was by consent, which also appears to mean 1) the Italian health authorities did not contest the findings and 2) they cannot appeal. If a qualified Italian lawyer might like to comment here on CHS on whether that is a correct intepretation of the judgement that would be appreciated. The relevant part of the judgement is:
The case, informed through the production of documents and the testing of medical-legal advice, was discussed at today’s public hearing as a consent decree.
The English translation provided here has been kindly provided by Dr JLM Donegan.
Dr Donegan is the only English medical practitioner whose advice on vaccination issues has been found in a three week UK General Medical Council legal trial in August 2007 to the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt to be based on valid medical and scientific literature, not to be misleading and unaffected by any personal views Dr Donegan may hold – in other words Dr Donegan’s advice is independent, objective and unbiased. The findings in the case were most unusual. Instead of finding that the GMC prosecution’s case was not proven, the hearing panel made a positive finding and found in Dr Donegan’s favour to the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt that her defence was proven.
More information can be found here:
UK’s GMC, Dr Jayne Donegan’s Story, Vaccines & MMR
The hearing came about after Lord Justice Sedley in the English Court of Appeal condemned Dr Donegan’s evidence to the English Family Court as “junk science”. This was without Dr Donegan even being present, given any opportunity for comment or being represented. [So much for English justice].
The GMC’s expert witness at the GMC trial, Dr David Elliman, then of Great Ormond Street Hospital spent 5 months preparing an expert report against Dr Donegan for the August 2007 hearing for the purpose of having Dr Donegan’s medical licence revoked, only to be forced to admit in cross-examination that he was “quibbling” over a few details.
Interestingly, whilst Dr Elliman was spending all this time on his report for the GMC prosecution there were problems in the unit he managed at Gt Ormond St Hospital. Despite being warned by his professional staff he took no management action. This matter came to a head with what has become known as the scandal of the death of “Baby P”. In short a child died, killed as a result of extensive injuries over many months caused by child abuse by the partner of the child’s mother.
Dr Elliman has never been charged by the General Medical Council with anything nor has his licence to practise medicine been revoked. The UK’s General Medical Council appears to have done nothing whatsoever about this despite their main purpose being to regulate the conduct and practice of medical doctors to protect the public. Well, they did not protect “Baby P” and by doing nothing they will not protect all the other “Baby P’s” there may be in future. They did however spend millions of pounds getting Dr Wakefield’s licence revoked and now it appears that all along Dr Wakefield was right.
Here follows the translated judgement. Any observations on or suggestions for improvements to the translation or typographical or other errors would be appreciated as this has been prepared as rapidly as reasonably possible .
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My 5 year old son is autistic, and to this day, don't know the reason why. I heard many stories related to vaccinations, but have found no scientific evidence that correlates to this.
Even with that said, my answer would be "NO". And when the school board pushes, I would cite religous reasons. I heard many jewish families, and others do this; however, it's becoming much harder to do now due to the constantly tightening legislation.
Even with that said, my answer would be "NO". And when the school board pushes, I would cite religous reasons. I heard many jewish families, and others do this; however, it's becoming much harder to do now due to the constantly tightening legislation.
its a combination of the vaccine with certain genes, and dietary as well,, since diet mediates genes,, its pretty obvious,
viruses change genes.. so why we risk exposing children to them is beyond me anyway,, id see it as a risk everytime, but to their genes in decades to come as well as an instantly observable change in gene expression because as we get older certain genes kick into action based on your lifestyle and health at different stages,, and certain less virulent viruses do cause conditions very similar to autism,, but are less able to procreate and parasitise and then spread themselves and usually not like what happens to most autistics of today..
and as i see it those vaccines allow loads of people that should be selected against by nature to procreate and further domesticate our species blood to needing vaccinations for ever,,, as well as ruin the earth,,
this shouldnt be a result of vaccines as the principle works obviously, and since viruses can be programmed to do almost anything a valid line of inquiry would be
could someone, for some reason, that works at those (horrible nazi NWO
) pharmaceutical corporations be adding genes to the viruses that they would express and alter in the person they got into,,
now a scientist would look at that notion and think that a pharmaceutical firm would have nothing to gain by doing something like that and could damage their reputation, with further irrelevent ideas about "money" and job losses, and so on,,, so most take the safe route and go back to thinking about what they know,, but the fact is that the corporations all have nothing to worry about because only a few hands control the global pharma nazis and they are given 0% apr loans by the global bank manager because they work for him..
"why would bayer and bayer, or procter and gamble want to hurt me"
so im suggesting that eugenics are at play,, and never stopped being performed through many tenticles like poor food/ tv,the medes /over-medication and red brick public school brain washing curriculums (etc etc),, basically deciding the survivors of this unhealthy un-humane environment,,or experiment,,,
unfortunately we now live in a high speed "multinational" world (we're told) and the spread of viruses have killed off masses and helped illegitimate governments (and religions) reign in every last corner of the globe,,
viruses change genes.. so why we risk exposing children to them is beyond me anyway,, id see it as a risk everytime, but to their genes in decades to come as well as an instantly observable change in gene expression because as we get older certain genes kick into action based on your lifestyle and health at different stages,, and certain less virulent viruses do cause conditions very similar to autism,, but are less able to procreate and parasitise and then spread themselves and usually not like what happens to most autistics of today..
and as i see it those vaccines allow loads of people that should be selected against by nature to procreate and further domesticate our species blood to needing vaccinations for ever,,, as well as ruin the earth,,
this shouldnt be a result of vaccines as the principle works obviously, and since viruses can be programmed to do almost anything a valid line of inquiry would be
could someone, for some reason, that works at those (horrible nazi NWO
) pharmaceutical corporations be adding genes to the viruses that they would express and alter in the person they got into,,now a scientist would look at that notion and think that a pharmaceutical firm would have nothing to gain by doing something like that and could damage their reputation, with further irrelevent ideas about "money" and job losses, and so on,,, so most take the safe route and go back to thinking about what they know,, but the fact is that the corporations all have nothing to worry about because only a few hands control the global pharma nazis and they are given 0% apr loans by the global bank manager because they work for him..
"why would bayer and bayer, or procter and gamble want to hurt me"
so im suggesting that eugenics are at play,, and never stopped being performed through many tenticles like poor food/ tv,the medes /over-medication and red brick public school brain washing curriculums (etc etc),, basically deciding the survivors of this unhealthy un-humane environment,,or experiment,,,
unfortunately we now live in a high speed "multinational" world (we're told) and the spread of viruses have killed off masses and helped illegitimate governments (and religions) reign in every last corner of the globe,,
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i really doubt there's that much intelligence at play. i see it as a consequence of opportunity ... just like hackers -- there is no evil force creating the hacker army, just a target rich environment -- hey, with enough nutrient the bacterial scum just gotta be free, eh?
a big problem is also that so many people get very emotional about this subject when they dont know the first thing about biology,, they have partly been programmed to be that way, but microorganisms scare the shit out of people anyway..
what is scary to me is what damage irrational approaches do to subjects like this,,, and its no wonder most scientists avoid doing anything contentious thesedays and just have a nice simple life,,
basically the dumb fucking sheep in our population need to take a look up and see that they arent grazing in the field anymore and have been born in pens for hundreds and hundred of years,,, their kids are the product of tomorrow and someone out there has our national(taxpayers) insurance numbers all floating on the stock markets in the west and most of the rest of the world now as well,,
why must we all be so numb ? is it the flouride in the water ? or maybe the brain atrophication caused by tv ?
a few millenia of selection by the crown and gown in the west towards scared (a)pathetic sub humans maybe ??
various drugs ? poor diet? alcohol abuse? generational rhetoric and ignorance ? the noose of fictional debt accrued through fractional reserve banking ? the destruction of our environment and the devastation of nature ? stress caused by being trapped like a rat in laboratory maze ???
or obviously all of the above and much more,,,
i personally refuse to accept this mess we find ourselves in in the west is natural to humans because i know how great our potential is and i love and care so much for those great people that have been and are here today,,, yet i look around and just see the walking dead being herded and rounded up, like so many other times in history,,, and with them the cream is always dragged down and slaughtered,,
and all of those things i listed above are being done by the same bunch of people, just open your eyes (better yet your third eye) and you will see it.. it was obvious to me at a young age so i have no sympathy for "adults" that cant see it,, but children are our future to state the obvious and really its not their fault their parents, and generations that preceded them, are retarded..
it was basically why all those people fled to america in the first place, yet it almost instantly owned the deeds to that cattle pen in 1776, got rid of the greenbacks and set to work printing monopoly money and reigning in its new flock of ex black sheep,, and of course starting writing the new history of the future, in the present..
none of this is a new trick by any means so why it all surprises people is beyond me, but thats the power of brainwashing right ?
especially viruses and bacteria, they have been used to forward a globalist agenda since even before the romans landed in europe,, though mastered greatly since then,, but we didnt know about microorganisms back then i hear people say,,,, or did we/they ???
i guess people think the humans of antiquity were fucking dumb, but they were seriously lightyears ahead of what we are today.. and literally all we have done in the last 2000 years that is even vaguely new is to develop more devastating weapons and illogical concepts to control the masses than ever in human history.. culminating in the poison world we see around us..
smell the coffee people,,
and seriously vaccinate your kids if you want,, they're your children after all and i dont give two shits either way,, just at the very least encourage them to have their own brain that is in tune with their hearts and souls desires and not what some gang of snakes have sold them and there is still hope, should be simple shit to grasp,,, at least it was at one time..
at the end of the day im not related to any sheep and my kids probably wont be so why the hell do i care ?
what is scary to me is what damage irrational approaches do to subjects like this,,, and its no wonder most scientists avoid doing anything contentious thesedays and just have a nice simple life,,
basically the dumb fucking sheep in our population need to take a look up and see that they arent grazing in the field anymore and have been born in pens for hundreds and hundred of years,,, their kids are the product of tomorrow and someone out there has our national(taxpayers) insurance numbers all floating on the stock markets in the west and most of the rest of the world now as well,,
why must we all be so numb ? is it the flouride in the water ? or maybe the brain atrophication caused by tv ?
a few millenia of selection by the crown and gown in the west towards scared (a)pathetic sub humans maybe ??
various drugs ? poor diet? alcohol abuse? generational rhetoric and ignorance ? the noose of fictional debt accrued through fractional reserve banking ? the destruction of our environment and the devastation of nature ? stress caused by being trapped like a rat in laboratory maze ???
or obviously all of the above and much more,,,
i personally refuse to accept this mess we find ourselves in in the west is natural to humans because i know how great our potential is and i love and care so much for those great people that have been and are here today,,, yet i look around and just see the walking dead being herded and rounded up, like so many other times in history,,, and with them the cream is always dragged down and slaughtered,,
and all of those things i listed above are being done by the same bunch of people, just open your eyes (better yet your third eye) and you will see it.. it was obvious to me at a young age so i have no sympathy for "adults" that cant see it,, but children are our future to state the obvious and really its not their fault their parents, and generations that preceded them, are retarded..
it was basically why all those people fled to america in the first place, yet it almost instantly owned the deeds to that cattle pen in 1776, got rid of the greenbacks and set to work printing monopoly money and reigning in its new flock of ex black sheep,, and of course starting writing the new history of the future, in the present..
none of this is a new trick by any means so why it all surprises people is beyond me, but thats the power of brainwashing right ?
especially viruses and bacteria, they have been used to forward a globalist agenda since even before the romans landed in europe,, though mastered greatly since then,, but we didnt know about microorganisms back then i hear people say,,,, or did we/they ???
i guess people think the humans of antiquity were fucking dumb, but they were seriously lightyears ahead of what we are today.. and literally all we have done in the last 2000 years that is even vaguely new is to develop more devastating weapons and illogical concepts to control the masses than ever in human history.. culminating in the poison world we see around us..
smell the coffee people,,
and seriously vaccinate your kids if you want,, they're your children after all and i dont give two shits either way,, just at the very least encourage them to have their own brain that is in tune with their hearts and souls desires and not what some gang of snakes have sold them and there is still hope, should be simple shit to grasp,,, at least it was at one time..
at the end of the day im not related to any sheep and my kids probably wont be so why the hell do i care ?
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GetUpStandUp
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Again ppl I dont attack ppls comments just chim in on statements that need some help like this one. We need to only look at the attack on marijuana from the 30s til this date, and the most constant varible we have to see is government, and corperate phama hand in hand, even hollywood and media whos played the false information train for a long time now, but with a 3rd grade education you can look back in history and find mj has been a medicine longer than it has been illegal! Findings of a chinese mummy medicine doctor had a pouch of a number of medicines, alone them was cannabis, and he dated to live 5000 years ago!
Tho it is easy to get jammed up in faulty info with disinformation being more common than truth, and fact. We logical ppl dont think ppl get together in secret to do things to harm others, and innocent ppl, but need to look no futher than the 40s, hell Bosnia, today Eygpt. The FACT that Codex Alimentarus is emplimented by all major Governments across the board shows the tight knit bond very powerful ppl have to control food, and regulate it. Yes it may be hard to believe that a group of ppl would want to get paid, as some of the pills out there cost like 5dallors a pop, most who are on pills are on a cocktail of them, they have been so expensive they have been deemed to obtain them thru your medical insurence, now we all know bout insurence companies.
So lets just say 1,000,000 ppl are on meds you charge 1 dollar per pill, you just made 30 million on prescribing a month supply to only 1million ppl, thats 360million a year! this is being very nice on numbers here just to get ppl who read things like doubt ppl would get together to distroy whatever just to line their pockets, and harm us ppl who just live. Remember we are not people to major corperate elites, we are consumers, period.
So, anyone here if approached to make 360 plus million a year, who would say no? If you said no then your comended on your morals, and humility, but remember there are 90% more peopel who dont give a shite, just look outside at what we live in.
Sorry for the ramble, we just need to look no further than the next time we smoke our meds, and notice we cant even do this without a power saying so, or say no, so please realize it aint one person at top saying no, its a group, and we aint part of it, period, so no privy vanity, cuz to them living is a privilage, so know your place pesants! God help the world!
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This post is so friickin funny to me today, not laughing at what you said, hell no, really feeling what you are saying. Just the other week I had to get my cat, and dog flea crap advantage, what ever. For some reason this years fleas are off the charts because the weather is hotter than usual. So I go be a consumer on stuff I dont believe in to put on animals, but hey got to be cool to your pets do whats right. So looking at the price for this stuff which I may add is on a pallet just as you come in the doors of the store kickin you in the balls!
So after you get kick in the balls again by the price 56 bucks, your most helpful employee comes to help saying you should get the lesser name brand, half the cost for basically same stuff, I mean it even says this on the box. so I put this shite on my dog, come to find out she start to break out in hives, and starts to act frickin like shes on speed, so Im frick spun into a demention of pist off, call ER vet, come to find out this is very well known by vet just so you know, you wash you dog in dish soap, and benidril pill and pray for no seziers.
Whats even more f-ed up is researching this crap, I found not one good thing about the product, matter of fact I was lucky as I saved at least 600 bucks on vet visit, and my dog had the milder side of side effects. What sucked even more, my apartment is still infested with fleas, matter fact the whole state is. I bombed twice, and the apt. sprayed still fleas, so because of this lovely fact your animals will have worms! yes those micro lifes that scares ppl.
Well thanks to this micro world both my animals got worms bad, and are on strict diets of garlic, ginger, and carrots, soon wormwood will be added, but all this to battle these small ass things that kill your buzz quick! My biggest concluded feelings of all this, and this is only a theory/opinion but I cant go a day without seeing chemtrails, not comtrails, and since I noticed this I notice tons more rain, this same rain water killed a number of plants thinking what the fu@k, only salvaged two out of 11. Right after this so called rain spell shit hit the fan, dying plants, fleas like crazy. Now is where I find it odd to remember the damn pallet of this stuff at the doors.
I just found it odd certaint ppl made huge profits on vet bills, and pet meds/vaccines if you concider the flea med to be just that. And to top it all they got paid for not even helping, because you cannot get your animals worms in check until you kill the flea cycle, and how do you do this when the best stuff all of a sudden dont work-funny! Now looking for over the counter wormer, you cant find any, so either I am not allone, or they want you to by the more expensive, or both! But thinking of your post, and reading it made me think of the other day when I was thinking how this flea thing very well would work as a weapon.
We humans can get worms too! So makes you think!
As a medic in the military during wartime and a new father like you GMO, I would encourage you to vacinate. The issues that were falsely connected to vaccines like mercury causing conditions like down syndrome, etc.. are just that, false. As a person who traveled overseas and lived in various countries for a decade I can tell you first hand about the horrors that can invade the human body and create sickness. I talked at length with our pediatrician about my concerns and she was very open and from what I could tell very honest about the issue. No illness has been linked to vaccines and esp. children's. Your little one deserves the best chance at a disease and virus free start. Give it to him and let him grow prosper. Progress is a good thing and this is progress. I look into my little girls eyes and I see how healthy she is and I know we made the right choice in getting her shots completed.
Plus most pre schools and grade schools wont allow enrollment now unless they have proof of your child getting their shots.
Plus most pre schools and grade schools wont allow enrollment now unless they have proof of your child getting their shots.
