The Trump Bomber

[Cannavore]

i call em how i see em no matter what "side" theyre on

partisan propaganda goes both ways but the right is on a whole nother level. no contest.

 

[Zeez]

Yeah, Anything for some recognition. Didn't he have some history of anger / antisocial legal problems? Pizza delivery guy living in a van with mental issues responding to the trump dog whistle.

he seems like your typical authoritarian minded right wing youtube commenter who probably used words like demonrats and thinks a new civil war is inevitable.

 

[watts]

Respect to all points of view in this thread. Everybody's passion points and argument is interesting and well stated. I still have a lot of questions about what exactly has gone down. I'm not one to rush to judgement without all the facts. Clearly though, Trump is a pivot point, an actor in the drama. Just a few days ago he was promoting body slamming journalists. Is it any surprise one of our millions of jut jobs would take him at his word and start something?



I'm a veteran of 1960s activism. I thought the world was coming apart then. Seems a lot worse now.

It is highly possible but think if it was one of these "false flag attacks" and scripted, this is exactly what they are trying to portray to the audience and attempt to persuade public opinion to fit the agenda.

 

[yardgrazer]

99.9% of "False Flag Attack" claims are utter BS.

 

[yardgrazer]

He was talking about the would-be-bomber. I spend a lot of time on rightwing Twitter, don't lie and say there aren't a good number of people using terms like "demoncrat" and "libtard" and raging about Soros and painting all Democrats as people without jobs.

On another topic, the whole "there's going to be another civil war" argument is a weird one, and pretty detached from the reality of now versus the antebellum period.

 

[Klompen]

Not saying this isn't a worthwhile discussion to have, but it doesn't seem entirely relevant, beyond the bomb:bomb connection. Maybe in another thread where it won't get ignored?

It really has nothing to do with the "bomb:bomb connection", but rather has everything to do with American media priorities being totally ass backwards. When Bill Clinton was in trouble for blowjobs with Lewinski, he launched a shitload of cruise missiles at targets supposedly connected to Bin Laden, and killed dozens of innocent people and the media got really distracted all the sudden. While all that was happening, Clinton and his Republican "enemies" were quietly expanding the Federal criminal code to include more crimes punishable by death and demolishing social welfare systems. All this time we have Limbaugh and others screaming day after day about how "liberal" Clinton was, and they distracted the public away from the fact that the "new democrat"(aka "Neoliberal) initiative was an effort to move the Democratic Party to the right. Every time this nation seems close to a meaningful discussion or holding those in power accountable there's suddenly a major distraction that pops up like by magic.

 

[Klompen]

99.9% of "False Flag Attack" claims are utter BS.

The Spanish-American War was started after an accident was spun by American media to justify a war that the nation was badly wanting. The media purposely avoided reporting the valiant efforts of the Spanish troops at the harbor who worked hard to save as many American sailors as possible. There was a very concerted effort by power players in the American government to drum up support for a war regardless of justification. US business interests in Cuba were desperate to avoid losing control of resources on the island so they pushed hard for a war.

World War One was started because the Germans sank the Lusitania. The claim was that the Lusitania was not a valid military target. Thing is, the government put 4 million rounds of ammunition in the belly along with many other types of weaponry. Leaders in both England and the USA wanted passenger ships to carry supplies of war to get them past German blockade, and according to their own words many in the interventionists faction in the USA along with Winston Churchill were specifically hoping such ships would get attacked so as to lure Americans into the war.

World War Two was entered in to by the USA after the Pearl Harbor attack. FDR claimed that he did not know that the attack was coming but he actually did know ahead of time and purposely put a large portion of the Pacific Fleet in a death trap and fired the admiral who objected to his order to do so.

The First Gulf War was started after a false flag operation in which the Kuwaiti royal family and their friends in the Bush family conspired to convince the public that Iraqi troops were killing infants in Kuwaiti nurseries. It never happened.

The Vietnam War was directly in response to the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident(actually two incidents). The first incident was claimed to be North Vietnamese aggression but it turned out later that the American vessel the USS Maddox fired first and provoked the fight. The second incident never even happened. Congress knew this and still authorized the president to engage in unrestricted warfare for the goal of "stopping communist aggression".

The Second Gulf War was started under the pretense that Iraq played a role in 9/11 and that they were also supporting international terrorism(not true). It was also justified under the notion that they were imminently going to have weapons of mass destruction(they weren't and the president and the media knew it).

False flags are extremely common in American history. In fact, even the American Revolution was arguably started under deceitful justification. American colonial propagandists spun some events way out proportion to the truth. The most egregious example of this is the so-called "Boston Massacre" in which colonial agitators attacked British soldiers for hours and only eventually provoked a limited response after trapping a few of them and forcing their friends to rescue them.

 

[Mick]

If only the rest of the world could build a ginormous wall around America, we'd all (the rest of the world) be a lot safer.

 

[Klompen]

I think that wall better have a lid on it because we've got ICBMs...

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Maybe true peace, liberty, harmony and the pursuit of true happiness thru that is just not possible - in this day and age - if it ever was?

Maybe it was/is just a pipe dream? - and we have all been hoodwinked to think it is possible.

 

[yardgrazer]

The Spanish-American War was started after an accident was spun by American media to justify a war that the nation was badly wanting. The media purposely avoided reporting the valiant efforts of the Spanish troops at the harbor who worked hard to save as many American sailors as possible. There was a very concerted effort by power players in the American government to drum up support for a war regardless of justification. US business interests in Cuba were desperate to avoid losing control of resources on the island so they pushed hard for a war.

World War One was started because the Germans sank the Lusitania. The claim was that the Lusitania was not a valid military target. Thing is, the government put 4 million rounds of ammunition in the belly along with many other types of weaponry. Leaders in both England and the USA wanted passenger ships to carry supplies of war to get them past German blockade, and according to their own words many in the interventionists faction in the USA along with Winston Churchill were specifically hoping such ships would get attacked so as to lure Americans into the war.

World War Two was entered in to by the USA after the Pearl Harbor attack. FDR claimed that he did not know that the attack was coming but he actually did know ahead of time and purposely put a large portion of the Pacific Fleet in a death trap and fired the admiral who objected to his order to do so.

The First Gulf War was started after a false flag operation in which the Kuwaiti royal family and their friends in the Bush family conspired to convince the public that Iraqi troops were killing infants in Kuwaiti nurseries. It never happened.

The Vietnam War was directly in response to the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident(actually two incidents). The first incident was claimed to be North Vietnamese aggression but it turned out later that the American vessel the USS Maddox fired first and provoked the fight. The second incident never even happened. Congress knew this and still authorized the president to engage in unrestricted warfare for the goal of "stopping communist aggression".

The Second Gulf War was started under the pretense that Iraq played a role in 9/11 and that they were also supporting international terrorism(not true). It was also justified under the notion that they were imminently going to have weapons of mass destruction(they weren't and the president and the media knew it).

False flags are extremely common in American history. In fact, even the American Revolution was arguably started under deceitful justification. American colonial propagandists spun some events way out proportion to the truth. The most egregious example of this is the so-called "Boston Massacre" in which colonial agitators attacked British soldiers for hours and only eventually provoked a limited response after trapping a few of them and forcing their friends to rescue them.

I think you're pushing the definition of false flag with some of those examples. The very nature of a false flag event is that you claim your enemy did something when in fact you did it pretending to be them (hence the "false flag" part, i.e. you're holding up their flag while attacking your own forces).


Using inflated propaganda to demonize your enemy, not a false flag.


Similarly, demonizing your political or social opponent to distract from self-enrichment, not a false flag. Look at emphasizing racial division - it's an age old tactic used by the ruling class to distract the working class from economic inequity.

 

[iTarzan]

If only the rest of the world could build a ginormous wall around America, we'd all (the rest of the world) be a lot safer.

It would have to be immediately torn down because the rest of the world can't even take a shit without asking the USA for help.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Ehhh...I beg to differ mate.

After having completed my ablutions this morning - I certainly didn't require any assistance from the USA.

It would have to be immediately torn down because the rest of the world can't even take a shit without asking the USA for help.

 

[iTarzan]

The Trump Bomber has just been topped by the anti-Trump Synagogue Shooter. The guy hated Trump.

Anti-Trump zealots are winning the battle of crazies. The current Crazy Championship standings are:

1. Anti-Trump synagogue shooterwith 11 dead and 6 seriously injured
2. Anti-Trump baseball game assault weapon guy with one serious injry
3. Anti-Trump bicycle lock guy with 9 injured
4. pro Trump fake bomb guy with zero injured

That scoreboard shows a different reality then all you Trump haters live in.

WAKE UP! We should all be on the same side against evil and craziness.

 

[iTarzan]

Ehhh...I beg to differ mate.

After having completed my ablutions this morning - I certainly didn't require any assistance from the USA.

The UK isn't all of the rest of the world Gypsy. The UK is America's one true ally. But my point is valid and can't be debated. The USA helps more countries, gives other countries more money than the rest of the countries combined.

The wall couldn't even be completed because the flow of money would be like a raging, flood swollen largest river in the world pouring out and could never be dammed up for a wall.

 

[Zeez]

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep-xgd_eETE

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Well - the Federal Reserve can print as much money as it wants to - so can the Bank of England - and does this money really help the world? - or is most of it used for unhelpful things - like wars - proxy or otherwise - setting up puppet dictators - after unseating democratically elected officials - etc?

Is it all about actually helping other countries - or just helping American interests?

The UK isn't all of the rest of the world Gypsy. The UK is America's one true ally. But my point is valid and can't be debated. The USA helps more countries, gives other countries more money than the rest of the countries combined.

The wall couldn't even be completed because the flow of money would be like a raging, flood swollen largest river in the world pouring out and could never be dammed up for a wall.

 

[stadanko]

The Trump Bomber has just been topped by the anti-Trump Synagogue Shooter. The guy hated Trump.

The only reason the Synagogue Shooter hated Trump was because in his opinion Trump didn't show enough hatred for Jewish people. It's hard to imagine someone hating Trump because Trump doesn't show enough hate, but sure enough we found it in this psycho.

Don't lose sight of the bigger picture. Just like Trump is funded by Russia the NRA is funded by Russia. Their investment in both is to cause as much damage as possible to the United States. Why do you suppose the Russians want the United States to be flooded with semi-automatic weapons? Why do you suppose they bombard our social media with endless attempts to sow hatred and division in every way imaginable? Hint: It isn't for their great love of our democracy.

They're sitting out in their boats this morning with the world's best hookers and vodka watching our citizens kill each other in hate-fueled anger and they're laughing their asses off.

 

[iTarzan]

This is the time for everyone to stop the hate and come together. Stop the finger pointing and come to grips with the facts. The world has crazy people that defy explanation.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Its been tit-for-tat between the Ruskie's and the yanks/brits - ever since WW2..


Both nations seem to thrive on it - for some odd reason - and its not the common peoples fault - its the big geo-political games these war-mongers play - using all of us in the west and Russia as pawns in their secret games - to weaponize the whole world - and sell them all weapons to kill us all.

The only reason the Synagogue Shooter hated Trump was because in his opinion Trump didn't show enough hatred for Jewish people. It's hard to imagine someone hating Trump because Trump doesn't show enough hate, but sure enough we found it in this psycho.

Don't lose sight of the bigger picture. Just like Trump is funded by Russia the NRA is funded by Russia. Their investment in both is to cause as much damage as possible to the United States. Why do you suppose the Russians want the United States to be flooded with semi-automatic weapons? Why do you suppose they bombard our social media with endless attempts to sow hatred and division in every way imaginable? Hint: It isn't for their great love of our democracy.

They're sitting out in their boats this morning with the world's best hookers and vodka watching our citizens kill each other in hate-fueled anger and they're laughing their asses off.