Have you used canna nutes in anything other than coco? I'm looking at alternatives to PBP as I am nearly out... It will be for hydroton.
Have you used canna nutes in anything other than coco? I'm looking at alternatives to PBP as I am nearly out... It will be for hydroton.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
I have used Canna with Perlite/ vermic mix and Perlite only and also with hydroton (clay aggregate).
I really like Canna Aqua there was one more nutrient i liked that came in powder but cant remember that brand now.
As long as its a good quality nutrient you should not have any problems.
Perlite and vermiculite do NOT make that big of a mess, so don't dismiss the medium on that basis. I have no experience with coco, but I have over ten years of using the original hempy bucket medium, explained on PAGE ONE of this thread. I'm not knocking coco, but believe me, Perlite and vermiculite is a cheap and easy way to go. JMO Good luck!
p.s.- Yes I know I'm replying to a nine year old post, but I wanted to bump this thread anyway, and I also have to defend perlite/vermiculite, lol.
Hempy bucket thread revival!
Two Ethos 10th Planet
Two Useful Seeds Bag of Oranges
Two Useful Seeds Bag of Skunks and Oranges.
Ive got them under a HLG 600 RSpec LED .
Temps are a bit low so growth is slowed but they are pulling through.
They took a couple days to recover from transplant into the final buckets, probably because of the low temps.
Here they are at 20 days from seed.
Two Ethos 10th Planet
Two Useful Seeds Bag of Oranges
Two Useful Seeds Bag of Skunks and Oranges.
Ive got them under a HLG 600 RSpec LED .
Temps are a bit low so growth is slowed but they are pulling through.
They took a couple days to recover from transplant into the final buckets, probably because of the low temps.
Here they are at 20 days from seed.
realityisntwhatitusedtobe
New member
Lovely mate. What buckets are you using there? What nutes? How often do you Feed with what ECs and PHs?
I m currently growing 6 ladies in 80/20 Coco/seramis. Working with GHE trio, root stim (micronutes) once a week, + calmag, sometimes adding some fulvic acid.
Always had lots of ph problems for 3/4 of the grow period while flowering seemed a Lot easier for me in hempy buckets.
I buffered the Coco btw. Didnt wash it though, no idea why it happened.
I m currently growing 6 ladies in 80/20 Coco/seramis. Working with GHE trio, root stim (micronutes) once a week, + calmag, sometimes adding some fulvic acid.
Always had lots of ph problems for 3/4 of the grow period while flowering seemed a Lot easier for me in hempy buckets.
I buffered the Coco btw. Didnt wash it though, no idea why it happened.
I use 3 1/2 gallon office trash cans.
Currently using 1- 1 1/2 tsp Floranova bloom per gallon throughout the grow with a dash of Floraliscious and a few drops of cal mag per gallon of water.. Will be switching to Pure Blend Pro as soon as it gets here.
I simply mix my nutes , pH down to 5.8-5.9 then apply . Right now I only need to water them every two days but as they get larger I will be feeding every day although I can usually squeak two days out of them if I have to.
Currently using 1- 1 1/2 tsp Floranova bloom per gallon throughout the grow with a dash of Floraliscious and a few drops of cal mag per gallon of water.. Will be switching to Pure Blend Pro as soon as it gets here.
I simply mix my nutes , pH down to 5.8-5.9 then apply . Right now I only need to water them every two days but as they get larger I will be feeding every day although I can usually squeak two days out of them if I have to.
realityisntwhatitusedtobe
New member
I admire people who dont need to be exact. I wouldnt even dare to just use a spoon to measure. Sounds Solid. Any Observations worth sharing?
Dont get me wrong I measure the Floranova. I just up the amount as the plants mature .
My water is fairly soft but it does have some magnesium and calcium in it so a few drops of CalMag is all they need.
The Floraliscious is strong so just a bit is all that is needed. I never noticed marked results from using more.
I stick to the traditional perlite/vermiculite mix mainly because its inexpensive, clean, and easy to dispose of. Last few batches of used medium went into the outdoor veggie garden. I find trying to reuse it is a PITA so I mix new for every grow.
My water is fairly soft but it does have some magnesium and calcium in it so a few drops of CalMag is all they need.
The Floraliscious is strong so just a bit is all that is needed. I never noticed marked results from using more.
I stick to the traditional perlite/vermiculite mix mainly because its inexpensive, clean, and easy to dispose of. Last few batches of used medium went into the outdoor veggie garden. I find trying to reuse it is a PITA so I mix new for every grow.
Try letting the perlite/vermiculite mix dry in the buckets completely before trying to re-use it. It's easier to work with when it's dry. Falls right out of the bucket, and you can shake a bunch out of the root mass.
realityisntwhatitusedtobe
New member
After growing in coco hempys twice now, im going to go back to perlite. Its much easier to handle the pots weight, it needs less watering, it doesnt need buffering in the beginning and its not as much dirt flying around. I dont see any advantage with coco..No.idea why that dalai guy converted.
That's good to hear, realityisntwhatitusedtobe. I've been using the original hempy medium, perlite/vermiculite for many years. A few years, this thread was buzzing with chatter about coco coir. I almost took the bait, but I continued with P/V. Then this thread started filling up with questions about coco, buffering it for pH, etc.
Me and my plants love the P/V mix, so thanks for the vote of confidence!
Me and my plants love the P/V mix, so thanks for the vote of confidence!
realityisntwhatitusedtobe
New member
I like how validating you are mr jellyfish. What were their reasons to want to bait you to coco? I understand it keeps water longer? What i dont understand is why would you need to water it more often If it holds water better.
Im using seramis or pebbles or rockwool bits instead of vermiculite. It was a bit hard to get and quite expensive.
Im also trying to simplify Things even further. Right now im still using 6 different bottles for nutes. Im thinking one should suffice and watering and cleaning up should be automated. Dont know how yet. Saw selfsucking buckets on that howtogrow Coco page, but i wasnt very convinced..
Whats your Setup and nutes?
Im using seramis or pebbles or rockwool bits instead of vermiculite. It was a bit hard to get and quite expensive.
Im also trying to simplify Things even further. Right now im still using 6 different bottles for nutes. Im thinking one should suffice and watering and cleaning up should be automated. Dont know how yet. Saw selfsucking buckets on that howtogrow Coco page, but i wasnt very convinced..
Whats your Setup and nutes?
My set-up is buckets with holes in them, lol. Seriously though, I use about 1.5 gallon plastic buckets. For nutes, I keep it simple. I use Rez Dog's The Recipe- here's a link- https://www.icmag.com/threads/the-recipe.77264/
Why did you replace the vermiculite? Vermiculite is super cheap, easy to obtain, and works great.
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realityisntwhatitusedtobe
New member
Thats Lucas formula right? With some PK13/14 (koolbloom)? I.will.try on my next run, but i feel it would be a waste to not also use the grow from.GHE, because its already here. But after i will try GHE maxibloom or floranova bloom as a 1 Part fertilizer. Maybe add some fulvic, silica and calmag.
Vermiculite is hard to obtain here. Its about 12 USD for 1 lb. Perlite is ten times cheaper. Seramis is pretty cheap on the other hand.
Vermiculite is hard to obtain here. Its about 12 USD for 1 lb. Perlite is ten times cheaper. Seramis is pretty cheap on the other hand.
goingrey
Well-known member
Seramis is really good, I'm running it side by side with coco and the plants seem happier in the Seramis. Same tent, same light, same feed... Wouldn't call it cheap though, but yes cheaper than vermiculite.
realityisntwhatitusedtobe
New member
What nutes and EC are you running? How often do you water your Coco hempy?
goingrey
Well-known member
I'm using self-watering pots with a water rez on the bottom, so not real hempy buckets with the hole on the side. I water when the rez is dry, varies, can be once a day, can be once a week. Using AN Sensi Coco (just the base grow/bloom) in soft tap water at half to full of the recommended strength, depending on the genetics. Haven't been measuring EC, will do that the next time I water.
