the Mexican Landraces Thread

[GRoot]

Very nice plants you have, just to let you know , your plants origin it's not Punta Cometa, since most of the weed they sell in Mazunte or Zipolite actually come from , San José del Pacífico, San Mateo Rio Hondo, and that villages in the Sierra Sur between Miahuatlán and Pochutla.

I just say this because a lot of gringos name the strains for the place they buy the weed, not the place it was grow, pretty sure that was the origin of "Acapulco gold" for example

This comes from snowhigh seeds description and as someone who purchased the genetics from him I go by the story he tells. I’m sure you may be right or maybe he is or maybe nobody knows.

 

[NOREGRETZ]

Pues si serían variedades locales, pero no landraces (si fueran híbridos). No sé si su chamula sea pura o no, pero si estoy seguro de que la chamula es una variedad ibl, ahora puede ser que haya llegado a San Juan Chamula proveniente de otro estado (tal vez Oaxaca) por allá de los 70s o así, entonces tampoco sería una landrace 100 x ciento chiapaneca pero si una sativa landrace mexicana.

No topo a estos compas, pero no voy a hablar mal de ellos porque no conozco su chamba tampoco, pero la neta son pocos los mexicanos que se están ocupando de las landraces en esta fiebre de las semillas gabachas, y entre más haya mejor.

he tenido contacto solo con makutsin.. y realizo un hibrido de su verde limón con una Malawi muy prometedor creo que estaba trabajando en f3 con estos, solo digo que parecen híbridos y no una variedad pura mexicana.

 

[bonghopper]

he tenido contacto solo con makutsin.. y realizo un hibrido de su verde limón con una Malawi muy prometedor creo que estaba trabajando en f3 con estos, solo digo que parecen híbridos y no una variedad pura mexicana.

What were your findings with this Verde Limon from makutsin? Did it have decent potency, effect, flavour & disease resistance? I'm growing the one from Hyp3rids, hard to find mexican strains over here. They're on the second node, vigorous and already with a very nice stem rub. What latitude you grow them at? Cheers

 

[NOREGRETZ]

¿Cuáles fueron tus hallazgos con este Verde Limon de makutsin? ¿Tenía una potencia, un efecto, un sabor y una resistencia a las enfermedades decentes? Estoy cultivando una de Hyp3rids, variedades mexicanas difíciles de encontrar por aquí. Están en el segundo nudo, vigorosos y ya con un roce de tallo muy agradable. ¿En qué latitud los cultivas? Salud

Esto era verde limón x malawi de makutsin, no he cultivado verde limón de makutsin tampoco de hyp3rids, a mi me parecen más interesantes sus híbridos haze

 

[OntologicalTurn]

he tenido contacto solo con makutsin.. y realizo un hibrido de su verde limón con una Malawi muy prometedor creo que estaba trabajando en f3 con estos, solo digo que parecen híbridos y no una variedad pura mexicana.

he tenido contacto solo con makutsin.. y realizo un hibrido de su verde limón con una Malawi muy prometedor creo que estaba trabajando en f3 con estos, solo digo que parecen híbridos y no una variedad pura mexicana.

Muy bonita tu planta, noregretz, como te digo pues no sabría decir, no he cultivado sus semillas, lo que si te puedo decir es que no creo que haya características tan generales respecto a las variedades landrace mexicanas, ni siquiera en su aspecto morfologíco, no es lo mismo una landrace digamos de Nayarit, cultivada durante siglos en un clima árido de suelo calcáreo que una planta cultivada en la zona alta de la sierra madre sobre los 2500 msnm que tiene que soportar 6 meses de lluvias torrenciales, y dónde unos metros más arriba o más abajo cambia el microclima totalmente.

 

[OntologicalTurn]

This comes from snowhigh seeds description and as someone who purchased the genetics from him I go by the story he tells. I’m sure you may be right or maybe he is or maybe nobody knows.

Well my friend i dont know the history behind, and I don't doubt the guy is legit, i just saying that the process of naming can cause confusiones since it's not the same the place somebody buy the weed and find the seeds, than the place it was growed, i know the área and I can say weed it's not growed by the ocean but in the mountains behind, anyway your plants it's really nice

 

[NOREGRETZ]

Muy bonita tu planta, noregretz, como te digo pues no sabría decir, no he cultivado sus semillas, lo que si te puedo decir es que no creo que haya características tan generales respecto a las variedades landrace mexicanas, ni siquiera en su aspecto morfológico, no es lo mismo una landrace digamos de Nayarit, cultivada durante siglos en un clima árido de suelo calcáreo que una planta cultivada en la zona alta de la sierra madre sobre los 2500 msnm que tiene que soportar 6 meses de lluvias torrenciales, y dónde unos metros más arriba o más abajo cambia el microclima totalmente.

Es de makutsin creo el la compartido, tienes razón tenemos muchos microclimas en todo el país, me gustaría más cultivar algo de huixtepec, popo o las yucas de chischas

 

[GRoot]

Well my friend i dont know the history behind, and I don't doubt the guy is legit, i just saying that the process of naming can cause confusiones since it's not the same the place somebody buy the weed and find the seeds, than the place it was growed, i know the área and I can say weed it's not growed by the ocean but in the mountains behind, anyway your plants it's really nice

He calls it Oaxacan Punta Cometa ‘74 so oaxaca is pretty general as well. Unless you can shed light where it’s from then why post just to be Debbie downer?

 

[OntologicalTurn]

He calls it Oaxacan Punta Cometa ‘74 so oaxaca is pretty general as well. Unless you can shed light where it’s from then why post just to be Debbie downer?

Punta cometa is a beach in Mazunte, in the coast of Oaxaca

 

[Koondense]

Not a landrace but Mextiza

Salud

 

[GRoot]

Punta cometa is a beach in Mazunte, in the coast of Oaxaca

Good to know, thank you.

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Good to know, thank you.

it is a very beautiful and relatively cheap place

 

[GRoot]

it is a very beautiful and relatively cheap place

 

[GRoot]

it is a very beautiful and relatively cheap place

So it seems the breeder refers to where it was scored as that is the first point of origin known

 

[NOREGRETZ]

it is a very beautiful and relatively cheap place

Punta cometa

 

[OntologicalTurn]

So it seems the breeder refers to where it was scored as that is the first point of origin known

Well, I just read that it says that a friend from Punta Cometa gave them to him, and that he may be from the Sierras (basically what I said). The places that I mentioned correspond to the Sierra Sur, which is where the majority of the Oaxacan landraces are found, and which coincidentally is the mountain range that is closest to Mazunte (where Punta Cometa is), which is the mountain range between Pochutla and Miahuatlan.

As I said, in Oaxaca marijuana is not usually planted on the coast, and putting names of where the samples are obtained, which do not correspond to the place of cultivation, generates confusion.

I don't see a contradiction in the breeder's story and what I comment, friend, nor do I question the quality of his work, nor your skill as a grower.

It just seems to me that in order to maintain the conservation of the landraces it would be more convenient that if possible foreign breeders call the landraces they get according to their local names, or approximate place of origin, and not the place where they bought the sample.

 

[GRoot]

Well, I just read that it says that a friend from Punta Cometa gave them to him, and that he may be from the Sierras (basically what I said). The places that I mentioned correspond to the Sierra Sur, which is where the majority of the Oaxacan landraces are found, and which coincidentally is the mountain range that is closest to Mazunte (where Punta Cometa is), which is the mountain range between Pochutla and Miahuatlan.

As I said, in Oaxaca marijuana is not usually planted on the coast, and putting names of where the samples are obtained, which do not correspond to the place of cultivation, generates confusion.

I don't see a contradiction in the breeder's story and what I comment, friend, nor do I question the quality of his work, nor your skill as a grower.

It just seems to me that in order to maintain the conservation of the landraces it would be more convenient that if possible foreign breeders call the landraces they get according to their local names, or approximate place of origin, and not the place where they bought the sample.

I would agree with that

 

[elchischas]

Hey chischas saludos carnal, oye alguna vez te has dado un rol por Chiapas? Te pregunto porque por San Cristóbal la mota más común y barata es la "Chamula", cultivada por los tzotziles de San Juan Chamula, la que se consigue está bastante llena de semillas y no muy bien cultivada, pero estoy seguro de que se trata de una sativa de las de antaño y IBL, ya que el pueblo de San Juan Chamula históricamente a estado muy cerrado a gente y tradiciones de fuera (si vas ten cuidado de que no te rompan la cámara), estoy seguro que tratandola con algo de amor pueden salir grandes cosas, la próxima vez que vaya voy a comprar un tostón solo para experimentar con ella.

Hola bro buenos días.
Ya no voy a postear info o fotos aquí
Abrí otro hilo en " Overgrow" forum, pueden ir ahi y seguir hablando de este interesante tema.

 

[RobFromTX]

Does anyone know a source for this heritage seed co.? Are they still active? Im always looking for new landrace sources

 

[mr.pistil]

Does anyone know a source for this heritage seed co.? Are they still active? Im always looking for new landrace sources

https://heritageseedbank.com/ ??