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the KUSH thread

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JDOG6000

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Ha, Ha... I guess you just can't talk about Kush around here anymore. Too funny. I totally understand OGbubs frustration.
Sometimes you want to talk about Kush without all the bull.
I get it. Whats the big deal guys? We all know Cali has the bomb Kush's and Kush hybrids.
Look at any Kush thread it's plastered everywhere you look. lol I just think we all take this shit a little too seriously sometimes. Myself inclueded. I understand wanting things to ring true and stop any misinformation. But come on this is the internet.
 
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Can anyone tell me the finishing time of sensi seeds hindu kush outdoors or give me a rough estimate. Lets see some more REAL kushes. I know there are other people out there growing some :)
 
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thanks for the effort og. I probaly screwed up some how, i will try again. I did find a couple on seed bay for a resonable price im going to give a try, but still would like the info on deep chunk and really want pine tar. if anyone can help me locate these two it would be much appr.
 

JLP

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I don't think I've ever smoked bad Kush,it's all been good as so far.

There's no reason why we can't have a civil discussion about it.


JLP
 

Evolution

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how bout hash plant? pure indica, roots in hash production...geographically wrong region?

love me some pure indicas....

peace,
evo
 
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Wow, another original kush thread...:crazy: why don't we clip out the arguing, get this down to a one pager and start things fresh?
 

Herbalistic

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Yeah, im with Kinderfield with cutting all the drama and saving all the info about authentic Hindu Kush strains like the thread starter wanted.

Ok, enough for the offtopic..

Hey Grizz, there are Deep Chunk´s on sale in Seedbay under private breeders, you should score one before you miss it! (sorry, just checked and they are all gone, there was many packs yesterday...)

Great idea BuB for trying to bring all the info about the authentic Hindu Kush strains in one thread, I really hear you with that :yes:

However, like people have requested, I would also like to see comandante Zamalito dropping his wisdom about HK strains.

Another interesting point to think about, is the Afghani sativas. There are some old reports from Afghanistan where discovers (/some similar people) have noticed big plants while trekking in there, not only short & stout, but strains that we would glassify sativa´s. I know Zman had some info about these supposed Ghani sativa´s, so well just have to hope he chimes in..

Hindu Kush hide´s so many "secret" valleys with different climate that it is definitely worth discovering. It´s too bad that part of the region is quit unsafe, at least for western looking travelers nowdays, but like I have noticed on my trips in islamic countries, is that they are very generous with foreigners.

However, there are nodoubt if a westerner who hasnt have any local connections in the smugling region, would set himself in great danger when accidentally lsot in wrong place/route. It´s such a shame that all this because of the politics!!! I cannot say it´s because religion, because I would say that aint the case. Like I said, I have always found that muslims have been very generous while visiting different muslim countries. It´s just them fanatics & smuglers who dont want your nose sniffing their business / tresspassing "their" areas and I can really understand them because of the current situation of world politics & Afghanistan. In fact, I really do think that things are getting worst for westeners in Afghanistan & HK region, but thats all about that subject!!

Maybe I coud try to connect Pakistani friend who has growed at least in past and ask him about the region and maybe some pics?

But like I said, it would be awesome to see this thread pulling the same cannarope, so peace :wave:
 
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aeric

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Herbalistic: member Smokaholik has a thread with Kushes collected from region of origin and has a sativa, like you speak of.

Breeders Choice was supposed to come off with some landrace Kush but sadly it doesn't look that way anymore.

I propose the term 'landrace Kush' in here instead of 'real Kush', it's less confusing or seemingly inflammatory.

I think this L.A. Pure has a good deal of landrace Kush in it, and similar to Ograskals Master, but that is for the experts and geneticists to decide

 
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I grew out some Dark Kush which the breeder swears was landrace taken from the region. About half of them were mostly sativa with a nasty teeth grinding high.
 

fjällhöga

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Here´s a quote from kashgar ... , its from my Masterkush/Skunk thread ...

What the original MK looked like was a thinner stemmed, large spacing between the internodes and a definitive smell unlike skunk.It had a smell like rotten pinecones…it was not seriously pungent nor did the plant produce too much scent.The flowers were more like medium sized pyramid shaped flower with a density to them in their compact form.

You could grow say 10 of these MK with a spacing of 30cm and they would all grow and entangle themselves…you had to stake the plants or use a netting as their stems could not support the flowers the last week or 10 days.The characteristic colouring of MK in the mature stage was for the hairs to be more towards the yellow to orange spectrum than brown or red.
 

THC•20

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ograskal said:
Heres some Wannabe Kush.....Straight from Cali.....So Cal Master Kush that is.......Hey Bub,......Would you say this a real Kush or Cali Kush Bullshit.????....Raskal

Maybe I need to smoke cali kush for my self, all I have to go by is all the hype people talk on it. Some of those plants look like the best weed I've ever seen and I'd just love to give it a try like seriously.
 

OG bub

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Herbalistic said:
Another interesting point to think about, is the Afghani sativas. There are some old reports from Afghanistan where discovers (/some similar people) have noticed big plants while trekking in there, not only short & stout, but strains that we would glassify sativa´s. I know Zman had some info about these supposed Ghani sativa´s, so well just have to hope he chimes in..
High Herb!
good posts!
I know of a Sativa Afghan.
its called Krush, a clone only. I got cuts from the keeper about 3 yrs ago, I ran them for a bit, and made an F1 Hybrid to a DC dad. verry unique plant, the first sativa I actually KNEW was a ghani when I smoked it, amazing stuff!
Krush blooms for about 90 days, yeild is decent, resin prod and potency is high. stretch is something wild too. krush uniformly grew 3x its size from beginning of bloom till end.
beancounter recently made the same F1 with DC aswell, and handed some testers out. theres a thread on that hybrid in the HTC testgrow section.

Ill try and dig up the liniage, I know its posted somewhere, and some pics.. I might still have some pics aswell but Ill havta dig.

peace, bub.
 
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what about S.A.G.E. sativa afghani gentic equalibrium(sp).....

ihave grown out a few affies in my day and a few pakistani landraces and as they all had the same appearence none had the hit like the cali kushes.. i think the only one with a real hit was dc and a sick affy from back in the day.otherwise what is said to be pure indica wasnt really..i know lebenon is nowhere near the kush mountains but i ahve some true lebonese hash plant seeds coming in from my best friend who is from there.. so when those arrive i will start cracking them babies..
 

craiger

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aeric said:
Herbalistic: member Smokaholik has a thread with Kushes collected from region of origin and has a sativa, like you speak of.

Breeders Choice was supposed to come off with some landrace Kush but sadly it doesn't look that way anymore.

I propose the term 'landrace Kush' in here instead of 'real Kush', it's less confusing or seemingly inflammatory.

I think this L.A. Pure has a good deal of landrace Kush in it, and similar to Ograskals Master, but that is for the experts and geneticists to decide


BC did come out with landrace kushes. They have Hindu kush, Purple kush, Mazar-I-Sharif, and Tirah Valley. Ask zam, HHF, or ogbub for the info. I dont have enough post to send it. I cant wait to see how these landrace kushes compare to cali kush. Ive been smoking two types of "pure" kush here in LA recently. One is very similar to OG kush and the others bud formation looks very sativa dominate.
 
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damn i was on seed bay on and off yesterday and never saw any DC. OG since tom wont reply caN you tellme the history of Dc?
 
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One other ? what do you guys know about somas free tibet, does it have a kush back ground
 

OG bub

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gimme an Hr Grizz, Ill dig it up.. woman wants to email baby pics to fam...lol...
 

A.N.Other

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interesting thread. made me think about a few things, not all cannabis related.

i've grown out one or two old school indo/pak land and garden races collected by myself or others on back packing journeys in our late teens early twenties. being young (and just a little dumb) the value of these was not apparent and we wasted many on failed attempts at guerilla outdoor and later indoor grows. we did get a few successful harvest later in the day though. strangely it always seemed a little different than the product from where it had been collected but recognisable characteristics were always there.

if we [partner and I] had a little less trouble travelling [partner diagnosed relapsing remitting ms] a few more trips would be in order. instead we have been playing with various seed lines purported to contain land race genetics. we were recently growing out some Speed Queen from Mandala and we found a great example of what i consider a classic indo/pak mountain hash plant. this strain contains N.Indian landrace gentics from the Himachal Pradesh, which is south east of the kush range so this may be a little off topic but the aroma of this plant was entirely deep, pungent, narcotic hash plant and it's primordial looking leaves are classic indo/pak indica/aghanica hash indica/afghanica. this third pheno (Dark Type 2 - SQD2) was entirely different in growth and flower structure to any of it's sibling types and there was only one amongst the eight from the first seed run and from another couple of packs I haven't found another.





the quotes in this thread regarding tall plants, with long internodal distance whilst retaining a reasonably broad leaf seem entirely in line with observations made both by classical cannabis writers and reports from contemporary travellers and growers. i myself have seen various "stretching indicas" in a few kush/afghani derived lines. the region itself is many-faceted in terms of micro climates so the degree of variation between land/garden race grown by one farmer in one area to a land/garden race grown by a different grower in a different valley is likely to be large [like mendo?!? hehe ;)]. this stands true even if the genetics ultimately have the same roots; as we all know our good lady acclimatises well and quickly.
 
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