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Gry

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Had we invested one percent into the peace corp, that we did into the military industrial system, we could have a very different set of out comes.

We are a country which must deal with a sense of deeply conflicted values.
 

Badfishy1

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well, you're reading a lot in to rational
i used rational in the sense that Trump isn't making a lot of sense in his foreign policy vision of the world
he's not well informed on most foreign policy issues
he gets publicly contradicted, a hissy fit ensues
as to rational and your list of police failings, that's another very long thread

The 2 are mutually exclusive...
 

Badfishy1

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Had we invested one percent into the peace corp, that we did into the military industrial system, we could have a very different set of out comes.

We are a country which must deal with a sense of deeply conflicted values.

Out of rep sir but +1
 

Badfishy1

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Yeah, fuck any form of law enforcement, all the way down to rent a cops. The irony of a bunch of pot growers/smokers placing trust in any sort of government official is pretty damn funny.

Almost as funny as the same people who claim to be old hippies banging the war drum and getting salty AF over pulling out of Syria. Almost like they have smoked themselves retarded and are willing to just throw away ‘values’ for likes and upboats
 

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Fake News Implodes – A Year of Don Trump Jr. Phone Contact Speculation Ends With Irrelevant Nothingburger…
Posted on January 31, 2019 by sundance

The sound of sad trombones echos through the halls of media networks today as a year of speculation, surrounding contacts between Don Trump Jr. and ‘blocked phone records’ before and after the oft-emphasized Trump Tower meeting, ends with congress identifying two long-time Trump friends and a major nothing-burger.

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Three phone calls by Donald Trump Jr. to blocked numbers in June 2016 fueled rampant media speculation that DJT-Jr. was coordinating with his father, Candidate Trump, over the substance of the Trump Tower meeting, before and after it took place.

SSCI Vice-Chairman Mark Warner and HPSCI Chairman Adam Schiff both sold a suspicion narrative that candidate Donald Trump and Trump-Jr. were organizing, coordinating and colluding with “Russians”. Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his primary investigative asset Andrew Weissmann fueled the Russian Conspiracy speculation with targeted leaks to allies in the media. However, the truth comes out; and it is boring:

VIA ABC NEWS – Investigators on the Senate Intelligence Committee have learned the identities of three blocked phone calls with Donald Trump Jr just before and after the now-infamous Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016, three sources familiar with the calls told ABC News.

The calls to blocked numbers, which came on June 6, and after the meeting on June 9, were between Trump Jr.’s cell phone and two family friends — NASCAR CEO Brian France and real estate developer Howard Lorber, according to the sources.

Both men have close ties to President Donald Trump and actively supported his campaign during the 2016 election.


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Sources tell @ABC News the blocked calls that many Congressional investigators long believed were between Donald Trump Jr and his father were NOT – instead to longtime Trump family friends https://t.co/Vh0S9LKn7l

— John Santucci (@Santucci) January 31, 2019

A lot of people look dumb today.

"Records provided to the Senate Intelligence Committee show the calls were between Trump Jr. & two of his business associates…and appear to contradict Democrats' long-held suspicions that the blocked number was from then-candidate Donald Trump" https://t.co/Iw513UQwuV

— Andrew Surabian (@Surabees) January 31, 2019

New Evidence Destroys Adam Schiff’s Theory About Trump Tower Meeting https://t.co/DDHaO0IdEG via @dailycaller

— Chuck Ross (@ChuckRossDC) January 31, 2019

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Medfinder

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As long as the embedded deep miltary industrial complex get it's funding from the 20 trillion gdp... It doesn't matter if a actor that stared in bedtime for bonzo got elected years ago.... looks like they are deciding whose next.
Research Eisenhower defence warnings and cia black tar ops.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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I don't think Arnie Schwartzenegger can be POTUS - since he was not American born - he's Austrian born - and the last time we had an Austrian as a world leader - it didn't work out too well for humanity -


There must be quite a few actors and reality show hosts around anyway - so there will always be plenty of Presidential material - just waiting in the wings.
 

gaiusmarius

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some of what you say is true, other parts are exaggerations, mis-characterizations, etc.
why did we invade saddam's home? georgie porgie decided he understood the intelligence better than his spy masters
he wanted to invade and justified it as he saw fit
they're not infallible, but they are mostly rational

some of the most rational people in the world are monsters who should be strung up for the sake of the race. being rational doesn't maen being right, or decent. anyway if you think the Iraq war was rational i have to disagree. it was an evil war crime against the Iraqi people. and here we are 15 years later and the place is still a fucked up mess.
 

Zeez

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i find it funny how much trust and integrity you are crediting to the cia, fbi and nsa etc. how is it that you guys are now taking the words of these professional assassins, liars, spies and thiefs words as gold?

You must be a hard core trump supporter to say this.

There is so much overwhelming proof that even the most uninformed people now have serious doubts of his innocence. The brazen act of asking the russians for Hillary's emails was over the top. Follow that up with the private meetings with Vlad by a president who shows the reading skills of a 10 year old on a teleprompter. Trump has a long history of being a scumbag. Ask someone who went to trump university and had to sue. You want to take this man's word over the nations top security chiefs who are educated, proven and have spotless records?

It's sadly comical that a document like this is available to the public and the deniers continue to deny. The document is composed by thousands in the nations security apparatus from both parties.

Statement for the Record
Worldwide Threat Assessment of the
US Intelligence Community
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Testimonies/SSCI Unclassified SFR - Final.pdf
 

geneva_sativa

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some of the most rational people in the world are monsters who should be strung up for the sake of the race. being rational doesn't maen being right, or decent. anyway if you think the Iraq war was rational i have to disagree. it was an evil war crime against the Iraqi people. and here we are 15 years later and the place is still a fucked up mess.

indeed,,, really pathetic to see people stunting for invasions of sovereign nations and the subsequent destruction of it, and usually hundreds of thousands, or even millions of innocent people,,, truly disgusting


just cause the media told them it was good,,, funny how many folks flip-flop cause they got suckered into the polarization game, at the cost of their human decency
 

igrowone

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some of the most rational people in the world are monsters who should be strung up for the sake of the race. being rational doesn't maen being right, or decent. anyway if you think the Iraq war was rational i have to disagree. it was an evil war crime against the Iraqi people. and here we are 15 years later and the place is still a fucked up mess.

actually i was pointing out Bush #2's decision to go with his gut as opposed to his head
iraq war #2 was launched on bogus reasons
but it is speculation what any man is carrying around in his head
 

packerfan79

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You must be a hard core trump supporter to say this.

There is so much overwhelming proof that even the most uninformed people now have serious doubts of his innocence. The brazen act of asking the russians for Hillary's emails was over the top. Follow that up with the private meetings with Vlad by a president who shows the reading skills of a 10 year old on a teleprompter. Trump has a long history of being a scumbag. Ask someone who went to trump university and had to sue. You want to take this man's word over the nations top security chiefs who are educated, proven and have spotless records?

It's sadly comical that a document like this is available to the public and the deniers continue to deny. The document is composed by thousands in the nations security apparatus from both parties.

Statement for the Record
Worldwide Threat Assessment of the
US Intelligence Community
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Testimonies/SSCI Unclassified SFR - Final.pdf

Do you really think our intelligence services have a spotless record?

The CIA is known to have worked with some of the worst people on the planet. They have a history of working with drug cartels on several continents.

Thinking the Intelligence agencies are questionable = supporting Trump is a stretch. This illustrates the main issue with the left. If someone opposes Trump you will support them. They are not mutually exclusive. You can hate Trump and still be realistic about what the agencies do.

I am pretty sure "w" was going off the intelligence he received from the agencies. In fact, at some point their were chemical weapons in Iraq. Our idiot government provided chemical weapons to Iraq. They were obviously hidden, or moved out of the country. So, the question that has never been asked is where are they now. How long till they are in the hands of people who are crazy enough to use them.
 

igrowone

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for some morning fun
Trump is now saying he is on the same page as heads of the intelligence agencies that he had dressed down
that was quick, just another day in Trumpville
 

redlaser

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Champagne must be flowing in trumpland today

Wonder what the value of one blocked phone number is in the overall situation?

The no Russian contact quartet will keep on playing in the background




Fake News Implodes – A Year of Don Trump Jr. Phone Contact Speculation Ends With Irrelevant Nothingburger…
Posted on January 31, 2019 by sundance

The sound of sad trombones echos through the halls of media networks today as a year of speculation, surrounding contacts between Don Trump Jr. and ‘blocked phone records’ before and after the oft-emphasized Trump Tower meeting, ends with congress identifying two long-time Trump friends and a major nothing-burger.

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Three phone calls by Donald Trump Jr. to blocked numbers in June 2016 fueled rampant media speculation that DJT-Jr. was coordinating with his father, Candidate Trump, over the substance of the Trump Tower meeting, before and after it took place.

SSCI Vice-Chairman Mark Warner and HPSCI Chairman Adam Schiff both sold a suspicion narrative that candidate Donald Trump and Trump-Jr. were organizing, coordinating and colluding with “Russians”. Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his primary investigative asset Andrew Weissmann fueled the Russian Conspiracy speculation with targeted leaks to allies in the media. However, the truth comes out; and it is boring:

VIA ABC NEWS – Investigators on the Senate Intelligence Committee have learned the identities of three blocked phone calls with Donald Trump Jr just before and after the now-infamous Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016, three sources familiar with the calls told ABC News.

The calls to blocked numbers, which came on June 6, and after the meeting on June 9, were between Trump Jr.’s cell phone and two family friends — NASCAR CEO Brian France and real estate developer Howard Lorber, according to the sources.

Both men have close ties to President Donald Trump and actively supported his campaign during the 2016 election.


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Sources tell @ABC News the blocked calls that many Congressional investigators long believed were between Donald Trump Jr and his father were NOT – instead to longtime Trump family friends https://t.co/Vh0S9LKn7l

— John Santucci (@Santucci) January 31, 2019

A lot of people look dumb today.

"Records provided to the Senate Intelligence Committee show the calls were between Trump Jr. & two of his business associates…and appear to contradict Democrats' long-held suspicions that the blocked number was from then-candidate Donald Trump" https://t.co/Iw513UQwuV

— Andrew Surabian (@Surabees) January 31, 2019

New Evidence Destroys Adam Schiff’s Theory About Trump Tower Meeting https://t.co/DDHaO0IdEG via @dailycaller

— Chuck Ross (@ChuckRossDC) January 31, 2019

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Zeez

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Hi Packer. I think the chiefs that spoke for their agencies were pretty clean. Yes.

The history of the agencies. Well you are correct with some considerations. Part of the job they do is covert and done with the intention of resolving 'problems' to avoid a potential military conflict. You're right, not spotless at all. Ask General Powell.... On the flip side, How do you think the Arab Spring came about?

Bottom line, If trump is not getting his intel and he is contradicting them, Where do you think he's getting his intel? And why? Many, Many people are asking this question in the midst of the collusion accusations. On that note there is plenty more fuel for the collusion fire.

If you think about it, Our massive military is only required because of two countries. There are a couple of smaller trouble makers that could be dealt with by NATO. One of those two appears to be trumps new national security advisor.
 

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While the distraction continues .... real politics behind the scenes are paving the way for the Chosen Masters of God to forever rule over us Goym

https://www.timesofisrael.com/senat...ills-as-congress-resumes-work-after-shutdown/


Strengthening America’s Security in the Middle East Act now goes to the House; would protect states targeting Israel boycotters, enshrine military aid to Israel in law


Terrorist Nation of Israel will forever be the parasite that sucks the USA dry of all its Values/Valuables

Keeping arguing about their Poster boy... Left and Right are a Sham for ZIonist conquest...
 

gaiusmarius

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You must be a hard core trump supporter to say this.

There is so much overwhelming proof that even the most uninformed people now have serious doubts of his innocence. The brazen act of asking the russians for Hillary's emails was over the top. Follow that up with the private meetings with Vlad by a president who shows the reading skills of a 10 year old on a teleprompter. Trump has a long history of being a scumbag. Ask someone who went to trump university and had to sue. You want to take this man's word over the nations top security chiefs who are educated, proven and have spotless records?

It's sadly comical that a document like this is available to the public and the deniers continue to deny. The document is composed by thousands in the nations security apparatus from both parties.

Statement for the Record
Worldwide Threat Assessment of the
US Intelligence Community
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Testimonies/SSCI Unclassified SFR - Final.pdf

sorry, but it's weak to partially quote someone and the pretend they mean something other then what they said.

how can you say im a hard core trump supporter when i have posted many issues with the way he runs things. i told you it's not about being pro trump, it's about being anti cia, fbi and nsa. their leaders are demons in human bodies. as far as i'm concerned if he really stood up against these agencies he'd get a big slice of respect in my book. but he isn't doing that. he is all for regime change and war on Iran and 10s of other countries.
 

Zeez

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It was your statement that I quoted and responded too.
Good thing it wasn't a book requiring a complete quote not to be 'weak'.
Disagreeing is not weakness. Don't expect everyone to agree with you.

In the current events, and this thread, trump is the one who is out there disagreeing with our entire intelligence community about Russia, Iran, the wall emergency, and pretty much everything. Your statement is inline with trump. This sentiment of disagreeing and discrediting the American intelligence community is a recurring theme in the pro-trump camp here. Being anti FBI, NSA etc is trumps line to deny those prosecuting him and those around him.

As for the methodology of spooks, it must be looked on as a military type of operation. If situations are beyond diplomacy then stuff happens that is short of a full military operation but rougher than Mr Rogers neighborhood.

i find it funny how much trust and integrity you are crediting to the cia, fbi and nsa etc. how is it that you guys are now taking the words of these professional assassins, liars, spies and thiefs words as gold?

sorry, but it's weak to partially quote someone and the pretend they mean something other then what they said.

how can you say im a hard core trump supporter when i have posted many issues with the way he runs things. i told you it's not about being pro trump, it's about being anti cia, fbi and nsa. their leaders are demons in human bodies. as far as i'm concerned if he really stood up against these agencies he'd get a big slice of respect in my book. but he isn't doing that. he is all for regime change and war on Iran and 10s of other countries.
 
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