I was under the impression that decarb'd oil was inferior because of reduced shelf life and lack of terpenes, is there anything other than that to be concerned about?
I wonder if you can find crystals in the decarboxylated?
I was under the impression that decarb'd oil was inferior because of reduced shelf life and lack of terpenes, is there anything other than that to be concerned about?
Yea I started with a piece of shatter and then from information on this forum and elsewhere, raised the temps on it and it started to look like wax/budder but it never started looking like honeycomb. I don't really wanna mess around with it anymore because the shatter was a nice translucent amber, but by the time it turned into budder it was opaque dark brown I just decided I'm not gonna waste time catering to people who want honeycomb since there are enough people already who want shatter.
Hey mr. durden!
I also want to name products properly, help me to learn it, please, answer a few questions.
Partially decarboxylated product can be crispy?
I thought that after partial decarboxylation product must be flexible but not crispy.
I thought that shatter is a hard, transparent product that is not sticky and breaks into shards at room temperature.
The product in the video looks that way.
What follows from the fact that it had previously been waxed up?
After processing product has become a solid, transparent and brittle.
Why it can not be called shatter?
Please define the term.
i wouldn't use words like "must" as that seems like an absolute.
Lol yea we have no business wasting time on a product that takes more time and effort to make, sells for less, and is technically inferior.yeah, people either want shatter or wax it seems. wax is just such a pain to make... takes like 2-3 times longer in the oven compared to shatter :/ wish i could charge more for that very reason :/
I think Mr Durden's point is that the process depicted will at least lead to partial decarboxylation which will at least add some plasticity to the final product. I guess you can say that there are varying degrees of shatter, some being closer to the coveted 100% THCa (not sure if this is possible?)I think deсarb'd can not crystallize, it has the consistency of thick viscous resin.
It acts as a plasticizer, gives flexibility to the rest of the product and does not allow it to become brittle.
I like absolutes, do not want to avoid them.
Lol yea we have no business wasting time on a product that takes more time and effort to make, sells for less, and is technically inferior.
the process depicted will at least lead to partial decarboxylation
Not to stir up shit, but FE, do you think that even though the heat gun you use is high heat, you're only heating the wax until it barely melts. flash heating it if you will. that might still be considered a low heat application am I wrong? its not like you are cooking the fresh wax in an oven for an hour at a certain high temp.
in other words, its the temperature of the wax that matters not the heat source heating it
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Also, it could be the amount of time being spent under heat. I remember gray wolf saying something like even wax at temps of 120 for 6 hour periods could decarb the wax. when I first made shatter, I slow melted it all into giant Chrystal rock that i chipped away at to vend. well seeing that I was the only one doing this and the thinner pieces of shatter obviously looked lighter in color and was able to show better, i remelted the rock into sheets like everyone else does. sheets to rock crystal to sheets again. that final remelt turned my hard shatter into bend and snap even though i never let my wax hit above 125. it could have been the accumulative heating time catching up with me?
When using an IR temp gun Ive seen the puddles go as high as 198F degrees and that was me taking the temp myself. Meaning I had to set down the gun grab the IR and shoot the puddle so it was/ is most likely getting hotter than that. THe only reason I didnt do it in the video is the temp really isnt important. You can tell by looking at the oil if its at that point, thats what I was trying to illustrate in the video. When its clear and tiny bubbles begin, stop. Or else you will scorch it. In early photos you can see this more clearly.
Respectfully,
FE
Hey mr. durden!
I also want to name products properly, help me to learn it, please, answer a few questions.
Partially decarboxylated product can be crispy?
I thought that after partial decarboxylation product must be flexible but not crispy.
I thought that shatter is a hard, transparent product that is not sticky and breaks into shards at room temperature.
The product in the video looks that way.
What follows from the fact that it had previously been waxed up?
After processing product has become a solid, transparent and brittle.
Why it can not be called shatter?
Please define the term.
Decarb'd oil still forms crystals only not as nice of form/terminations.
I don't see how this could be any more 'decarbed' then the method of 115* for a few hours.