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Snype's RDWC Construction Tutorial For 250 Watts - 7,600 Watts!

paperchaser825

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I just ran some numbers. I own a waterjet cutting system and I cannot buy a sheet of rubber and cut these for cheaper than Lowe's and Homedepot make them. They are 2 bucks a piece, hardy and thick and will probably last a lifetime. You can't go wrong. If you guys need help locating them online let me know.
 
I just ran some numbers. I own a waterjet cutting system and I cannot buy a sheet of rubber and cut these for cheaper than Lowe's and Homedepot make them. They are 2 bucks a piece, hardy and thick and will probably last a lifetime. You can't go wrong. If you guys need help locating them online let me know.
I think i would rather pay ~0.10$ each, thanks.

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Snype;
Good thought heading out for you. heal and be well.
 

gmanwho

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These 5 gal net pots have been out for years, maybe 4-5 years that i can remember. And the 10" do hold about 1.5 gal of medium or hydroton. One 5-gallon bucket of hydroton will do 3 of these 10" lids.
 

Stonefree69

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I think i would rather pay ~0.10$ each, thanks.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=6097564&postcount=151

Snype;
Good thought heading out for you. heal and be well.



One alternative is use the Rubbermaid Roughneck Storage Boxes for 10 gallon 23.9" L x 15.9" W x 8.7" H only about 9" high vs 16" for the 5 gallon buckets, they are only about $$10 each. Then you'll easily find EDPM o-rings on amazon (1/8") that will fit flush and seal your tubs for about 10 cents each for 100 per batch.

I'm using the 5 gallon buckets for veg room and 14-18 gallon Roughnecks in the flower room. Ditching my cooler idea and getting 2" polyurethane foamboard from Lowes (HD seems to only list them like the 1st post noted on those foam bait buckets) cut into a hexagon w/top and bottom with Reflectix to super insulate them. My chiller's gonna feel like the Maytag repairman. :) If you're interested: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=281131

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EPDM O-Ring, 70A Durometer, Black - don't have to worry about the 50 durometer soft washers that need to be 1/4" thick or more as they fit flush on square tubs.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003SLE5L8/ref=biss_dp_sa1
 

Snype

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Just to show you what you guys can do with my systems:

4,000 Watt - 2 x 10 Bucket RDWC Systems
12 Day VEG in VEG-A and 9 day VEG in VEG-B
Total Yield: 4,230 Grams of Dry Bud
920 Grams of Bud Trim that will produce 4 oz of Hash Oil
13 Grams of Scissor Hash


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Snype

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While i ogle your porn here, let me ask about your eyes. you ok?

P.S. You have any washers i might get? PM me?

Is there a problem with the washer link in the first page of this thread? If there is then I can have some washers sent out but why can't you order them from the link in the first page? My eye is not good. Thanks for asking.
 

Stonefree69

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Just to show you what you guys can do with my systems:

4,000 Watt - 2 x 10 Bucket RDWC Systems
12 Day VEG in VEG-A and 9 day VEG in VEG-B
Total Yield: 4,230 Grams of Dry Bud
920 Grams of Bud Trim that will produce 4 oz of Hash Oil
13 Grams of Scissor Hash
Just over 1 gpw with reflectors, you're sure doing something right Snypes! :D

I'm gonna insulate all my 5 gallon buckets (& res bucket) together using 2" foamboard & Reflectix (R-20.4) and call them "Uni-Buckets". It elimates 9 surfaces over individual insulation (less surface area, more insulating value). 16" OC. All piping and return water flow (UC style) to the res between the buckets won't even need insulation wrap (it's inside the Uni-Buckets)! :D
 

Snype

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Just over 1 gpw with reflectors, you're sure doing something right Snypes! :D

I'm gonna insulate all my 5 gallon buckets (& res bucket) together using 2" foamboard & Reflectix (R-20.4) and call them "Uni-Buckets". It elimates 9 surfaces over individual insulation (less surface area, more insulating value). 16" OC. All piping and return water flow (UC style) to the res between the buckets won't even need insulation wrap (it's inside the Uni-Buckets)! :D

If you look at the room you will see there is no reflectix or milar on the walls which contributed to less yield. I got still got over a gram per watt with 10 bucket systems. I have newer systems that I'm about to test which have 3 containers per row and 2 rows. I have a combination of vertical and horizontal lighting. I'm also going to test out another system I'm working on that is for 1 plants per light also in combination of vertical and horizontal lighting. For the 1 plant per light, there is the same SCROG that I use now but the legs also get SCROGed as well. For the horizontal lighting, I'll use 1000's but for the vertical bare bulb I'll be using 600's. I'm thinking I'll start the test with 42" plant centers. The horizontal lights will be on for 8 hours per day and the vertical lights will be on for 4 hours per day. The vertical lighting being 600 watters will equal the same watts as the horizontal lighting. So 2 x 6 bucket systems would have 12 x 1000 watt lights on top and 20 x 600 watts vertical. I've been doing a lot of research on rates of photosynthesis and it's making me rethink my lighting strategies. Testing will show for sure. I'll be testing many combinations of plant arrangements per light but I'm going to try to focus with 1 plant per light because I think it is a better idea for bigger grows. For these ideas, I've been looking into container options and think I have some good ideas but they are all missing components. This may lead to me having new pieces manufactured to be placed on exiting products. Specifically, the Botanicare 20 Gallon White Rez which actually holds 16.5 gallons full. I'm thinking of designing a new cover for it out of the same materials and having it professionally manufactured but I still have to figure a lot of other things out first.
 

Catatafish

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The low plant counts will be interesting.

There is a guy local to me and on these forums killing 2k with 4 x 2gal coco. Thats very little garbage to toss which makes it nice for security reasons. I know its different media but shows it can be effective.

Just a heads up snype, i dont think the two net pots you suggest fit together any more.
They must have changed something somewhere along the line. I ordered the exact ones and verified the part numbers. If i cut the bottom out of the hydrofarm 6", the 5" daisy flex will fall right thru and not catch. Luckily i didnt order crap tons!

I think i have found a current solution but i need to do some testing in the flood table with water this weekend. May have to widen the holes just slightly....ugh.. hopefully a dremel with a little sander will do the trick if i need to widen.
 

Snype

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The low plant counts will be interesting.

There is a guy local to me and on these forums killing 2k with 4 x 2gal coco. Thats very little garbage to toss which makes it nice for security reasons. I know its different media but shows it can be effective.

Just a heads up snype, i dont think the two net pots you suggest fit together any more.
They must have changed something somewhere along the line. I ordered the exact ones and verified the part numbers. If i cut the bottom out of the hydrofarm 6", the 5" daisy flex will fall right thru and not catch. Luckily i didnt order crap tons!

I think i have found a current solution but i need to do some testing in the flood table with water this weekend. May have to widen the holes just slightly....ugh.. hopefully a dremel with a little sander will do the trick if i need to widen.

My bad! I should have explained this further. You need to leave 1 ring on the Hydrofarm Bucket Lids. When you leave 1 ring, the Daisy Net Pot fits perfectly. There's some small details that I still haven't included which shows I need to edit this thread. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
 

Catatafish

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i noticed the one ring....i still dont think mine will work. Willing to try though :)

Ill give it a shot on saturday when i have some more play time.

My cam battery dies in less than two mins, i need to replace but ill try to snap some pics and maybe you can show me something im doing wrong. I hope so...i dont feel like widening the holes :)

My alternative was HG6NETCUP (note cup not pot, two different sku's) to replace the daisy 5". Fits perfectly in the bucket top, but i dont think it sits deep enough in the flood table to get soaked good by default. They seem smaller than my other 6" net cups so its a close fit in the table. They are nice and sturdy though and would be nice if they work as i could see them lasting a lot longer than teh daisys.
 

Catatafish

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No prob on the forgetting the small detail. I havent destroyed anything yet :) I try to analyze everything first before doing. I know its a lot of work to build to tut like this. Its much appreciated.

Im loving the system other than my mod on using regular bucket lids with netpots cut into the top. THAT WILL BE fixed for next run as it was a very stupid idea. Its so nice not to have to crawl thru the jungle underneath and water :) Do all the work from controller.
 

dc105

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SNYPE Just wanted to pop in and give a lil respect man! Love the dedication you have put in and sharing some of this knowledge! Helluva tutorial!

You have me wanting to change my shit all up!
 

Stonefree69

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If you look at the room you will see there is no reflectix or milar on the walls which contributed to less yield. I got still got over a gram per watt with 10 bucket systems. I have newer systems that I'm about to test which have 3 containers per row and 2 rows. I have a combination of vertical and horizontal lighting. I'm also going to test out another system I'm working on that is for 1 plants per light also in combination of vertical and horizontal lighting. For the 1 plant per light, there is the same SCROG that I use now but the legs also get SCROGed as well. For the horizontal lighting, I'll use 1000's but for the vertical bare bulb I'll be using 600's. I'm thinking I'll start the test with 42" plant centers. The horizontal lights will be on for 8 hours per day and the vertical lights will be on for 4 hours per day. The vertical lighting being 600 watters will equal the same watts as the horizontal lighting. So 2 x 6 bucket systems would have 12 x 1000 watt lights on top and 20 x 600 watts vertical. I've been doing a lot of research on rates of photosynthesis and it's making me rethink my lighting strategies. Testing will show for sure. I'll be testing many combinations of plant arrangements per light but I'm going to try to focus with 1 plant per light because I think it is a better idea for bigger grows. For these ideas, I've been looking into container options and think I have some good ideas but they are all missing components. This may lead to me having new pieces manufactured to be placed on exiting products. Specifically, the Botanicare 20 Gallon White Rez which actually holds 16.5 gallons full. I'm thinking of designing a new cover for it out of the same materials and having it professionally manufactured but I still have to figure a lot of other things out first.
Super Snype! That's what I was always looking for in the Side by Side Grow Experiments. :tiphat:
 
Hey Snype!!

Can't tell you how much we appreciate your sharing here. I am nearly complete collecting parts and pieces to build a 6 site system per your design.

I have been flowering in a "shared" flower room with 2 - 6 site systems on an alternating basis. I would like to break my flower spaces up into 3 isolated spaces and place a 6 site RDWC in each space. This will allow me to duplicate your veg A/B process.

Question: With my available space I will likely wind up with 3 flowers spaces each 5'x6' and lighted with 2 - 600watt air cooled HPS. Do you think that is an adequate space for 6 plants following your grow guide?

Thanks again.

FJ.
 

Snype

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Hey Snype!!

Can't tell you how much we appreciate your sharing here. I am nearly complete collecting parts and pieces to build a 6 site system per your design.

I have been flowering in a "shared" flower room with 2 - 6 site systems on an alternating basis. I would like to break my flower spaces up into 3 isolated spaces and place a 6 site RDWC in each space. This will allow me to duplicate your veg A/B process.

Question: With my available space I will likely wind up with 3 flowers spaces each 5'x6' and lighted with 2 - 600watt air cooled HPS. Do you think that is an adequate space for 6 plants following your grow guide?

Thanks again.

FJ.
I see why you are trying to break up the spaces. The VEG-B process complicates putting other plants in various stages into the flowering room / rooms. I personally don't use 600 Watt lights because I use 1000's but 2 x 600's would work with the space that you listed. Those lights won't be good enough to go to a 5' width and I'd be focusing more on 3' - 4' for your width. 600's are probably good for a 3.5' x 3.5" so 2 x 600's could be used in your specific space as 3.5' x 6' because according to your detentions, that all the space in length that you have. I wouldn't be trying to grow tall plants with 600's. Personally I would probably SCROG at around 2'- 3' max because 600's won't give as much light penetration as 1000's and 36' of height seems perfect for horizontal reflectors with 1000's and 600's will be less than that. Glad that you are running the systems and I hope that they are doing well for you. Change the spacing of the buckets to conform to the lights and reflectors that you are using. You will be the best judge of how far to place each plant because all reflectors are different from one another as well as strain. Good luck!
 

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