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Skunkman Sam's Secret Dry Sift 2009

Mikell

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Soooo im wrong because its time consuming? Maybe Sam starts using a vibratory machine of some kind and finishes with hand carding?

Yup.

If you read the thread or have followed this elsewhere, there is frequent mention of bulk processing efficiently.

Time yourself carding 100g if you need more proof.
 

growingcrazy

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What is the maximum water temp for the settling of the resin glands and the floating of any leaf particles?

Just asking
 

TerpChild

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How many grams of the super pure headies can sam make in an hour? I must have missed where that info is stated in this thread.
 

Mikell

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You can be butt hurt all you want, doesn't make here nor there.

Sam has vaguely mentioned a way to make 99+% heads in a quick and scaleable fashion.

This is a man who built a 40' long continuous feed dry sift tumbler and you think carding plays a role in the next level up?

Read that a few times.

How stupid would you look trying to card 40lbs of raw sift without a busload of migrants.

Cheers
 
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Chrondiddle O

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I am sure,from what I have heard spoken about this by bubbleman,that it is a technique rather than a piece of equipment which was the secret to Sams sift..I don't know where I heard or read it,but again I am 99% positive it was bubblemans youtube channel,that Sam could take someones sift,disappear for a few minutes and return with 99% heads..so unless the piece of equipment is very small and portable,I am sure it's a technique we need to learn.
 

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Static electricity dry sift cleaning tek:

The trick to clean up dry sift kief is using static electricity.
Trichomes heads gets attracked to static electricity.

For large volumes you'll need a vibrating table with a static charged screen a few millimeter above the spread out kief. This makes the trichomes bounce up and down and the heads gets attracted to the static charged screen.

A simpler method for low volumes anyone can do at home is to wrap a book or dvd case in parchment paper (or other charged cloth/fabric/sticker/plastic/glass..., rub it over your dog or carpet to charge it, lol) and 'go through' the dry sift kief with it. Lightly press down the wrapped book/DVD -to crush the trichomes a bit- and move it through the kief.
This will make the heads to detach from the stalks. And the static charge of the parchment paper will attrack the heads.
Then simply scrape of the heads from the parchment paper and repeat if necessary.

Watch this video starting @35:30 min to see a demo.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eXNh3miueNs

This method was first presented by a guy named Meze Maccalman (time2shine). Here are his original vids.

Static Dry Sift by Meze Maccalman:

Video 1 (long version):
https://youtu.be/U7IN27mczNU

Video 2 (short version):
https://youtu.be/pGQHOHLk-0k

You can find his tutorial posted here under his nickname time2shine:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=287730


Other famous vids are the ones by D420K:

Video 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCsQVUu7EEI

Video 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOpIW-QKfFM


Bubbleman Worlds showing 3 teks incl parchment dry sift tek:
https://youtu.be/qC5S-uF8VLQ

Bubbleman plexiglass tek:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=2203945&postcount=6
(You could change the plexiglass plate to an old analog TV/Computer screen you plug in. This will generate static electricity...)


And finally here is a post by Sam The Skunkman where he confirms the parchment static dry sift is legit and works fine (he denies this is his secret method):
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=6974349&postcount=61


PS: Does anyone know of a wand of some sort which produces static electricity? It might be very usefull, you just plug the device in and move it over/through your dry sift kief. And then scrape of the resin heads.

Or one might simply make himself a magical negative charged wand out of plastic (PVC) and rub it with a woolen cloth to charge it...Or does one need a positive charged wand out of glass rubbed with silk? How would one figure out what charge and material to use?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triboelectric_effect
http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/static_materials.htm#.WLYi8KPvKBY
http://web.physics.ucsb.edu/~lecturedemonstrations/Composer/Pages/56.06.html

Maybe Ask Ed? Here's an answer from Ed why trichomes stick to the inside of plastic baggies:

The small plastic bags are made from the same kind of material as zipper bags, polyethylene plastic. This plastic can develop a static electrical charge that is positive. It attracts negatively charged materials, including marijuana trichomes. If you’ve ever carried a baggie of pot around, you may have notice the inside of the plastic has become covered with trichomes. If you tried to scrape them off you discovered that they were bound to the plastic.

Trichomes develop a static negative electrical charge to counter balance the positive charge on the plastic. As the buds scrape against the bag the exposed trichomes break away from the bud and bond with the plastic. As they do this the potency of the smokable bud is lost. The more the buds are handled or scraped across the plastic, and the smaller the bud pieces are, the higher percentage of loss. Large buds lose surface glands but not inner ones. Keeping a baggie in your tight jeans is a bad idea because the bud scrapes against the plastic and gets broken up, exposing more surface area and losing more trichomes.

And something extra:

Do certain speaker boxes produce static electricity I wonder...Or only just your standard Vandegraaff generator: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_generator and nothing else in the world can produce static electricity?

Also check out this accoustical dry sift tek:
https://skunkpharmresearch.com/acoustical-dry-sieving/

You can even levitate items with speaker boxes http://io9.com/scientists-master-levitation-of-small-objects-with-soun-1492781926, you might just only need an (ultrasonic) frequency and one might blow/bounce off all the unwanted material and static attrack the resin heads.


Sincerely,

.:(CVH):.
 
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Cvh

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Also grab yourself a copy of Hashish! 2th edition by Robert Connell Clarke.
It has some very interesting chapters about resieving. i.e. ultra sonic cleaning, vibrating and rotating sieves,..etc.
Also the original secret water extraction technique by Sadu Sam (taught to him by Neville). Plant material and other light debris floats you know while resin heads/glands...what might they do in water...

PM me if you can't find a copy. (Don't ask for pdf's!).
 
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hash head

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If his discovery came from Africa he like likely is using the cookie tin technique which uses the shaking of kief in a cookie tin to generate static electricity.. all the trick heads stick to the top lid of the tin to be collected... popular in the fields of third world producers... anyone tried this tech?
 

hash head

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Also is skunkman Sam the same as Sadu Sam? Found the technique of washing bubble Hash or dry ice sift in jars of cold water and pouring off the water clorophyl mix a couple times until it remains clear after 20 minutes sitting in the fridge each time to allow glands to settle... found the results satisfactory however it does seem any processing with water removes much of the terpenes.. I've found my very favorite hash lately to be rosin made from grade A flower... some very light almost white oil can be had.. and less work and higher yield than pressing kief.. though much smaller quantity per press.. the amount of terpenes seems to enhance the effect greatly and seems to me to be more potent than pure clear, raw, aka thc distillate without terps added.. and some of the blondest oil I've ever seen.. tan and white at times
 

Limeygreen

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If static is the answer Sam could have automated it quite easily, you could set up a tumbler with a static pvc shield to process keif repeatedly until cleaned, it would just need to be re fed in or drop down to a second tumbler and possibly a third. That or you could have a vibrating static (nylon?) charged screen below collection that could have an automatic cleaner on the collection plate then cut the charge once the plate is clean.
 

hash head

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If PVC carries static charge.. maybe just by rolling like paint roller tech or by dumping kief through the pipe and then harvesting with a brush of some kind
 
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Gr33nSanta

poor the dry sift down a pvc tube that is charged, heads should stick to the wall and contaminants fall through, brush the walls of the tube, repeat? lol
 

Cvh

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Here is a simple design for an industrial electrostatic drum separator.
picture.php

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This device works through the corana discharge principle. Please read the wikipedia page for more info.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Electrostatic_separator
(And some other studies: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=0&q=related:Ldq5HVzAf4q2jM:scholar.google.com/&hl=nl&as_sdt=0,5)

This device and several others ideas (and experiences) are mentioned in time2shine parchment paper static tek original thread:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=287730

Sam the Skunkman has written several comments in time2shine original thread (and similar threads). With one comment -which I already posted in my previous post- is that he agrees that with something as simple as piece of parchment paper you can quickly make yourself 90pct clean kief using static separation.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=6974349&postcount=61

This post from Sam the Skunkman comes from the 'Sharing tech? Keep Secrets?' thread.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=305502

You can run the static parchment tek several times to clean it up further or you need to use a more advanced static separator method. Please read through all the threads (and my original post) for more ideas.

Time2shine original thread:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=287730

Sharing tech? Keep Secrets?:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=305502

My original post (Static Dry Sifting Tek):
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7838511&postcount=306
Second part:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7839805&postcount=307
 
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Stan G.

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Every one worried about sam's tek is ultimately silly. It is to easy to stack varying screen sizes and card. takes work and time but you end up with melty sift. you can then take it further by static sifting with a book and parchment paper. :tiphat:


meltyheads
 

PDX Dopesmoker

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No, according to what Bubbleman has been teasing on IG its less than five minutes work to clean a QP of kief down to full melt.
One of the few things anyone on the outside looking in can discern is that part of the trick is to do away with hard work and use their secret tech instead, thats probably why so many people are interested, or at least were initially. If they've been teasing this for about a decade already you have to guess most people probably assume all they got is bullshit by now.
 

Stan G.

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Sam is the man. Some of the cleanest heads in the world, besides my static dry sift. I don't know his tech but would love to learn a quicker less time consuming method. Until then, card, card, card, then static sift, for the comparable to Sam's quality full melty goodness.
 

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