Saudi Dissident Disappears in Saudi Consulate Istanbul

[Storm Shadow]

https://www.rt.com/news/441783-saudi-arabia-khashoggi-died-fight/

Saudi Arabia says Khashoggi died in accidental ‘fistfight’ inside the consulate

Might as well say he slipped on banana peel and broke his neck/skull....I guess chopping him up alive with 4 dudes present was for what reason?

 

[igrowone]

https://www.rt.com/news/441783-saudi-arabia-khashoggi-died-fight/

Saudi Arabia says Khashoggi died in accidental ‘fistfight’ inside the consulate

Might as well say he slipped on banana peel and broke his neck/skull....I guess chopping him up alive with 4 dudes present was for what reason?

ah, i get it now
he was suffering, they just wanted to end that suffering, that was all
i knew there was an innocent explanation, had to be

 

[gaiusmarius]

What's an NPC?

non playable character, or non player character in online games.

 

[gaiusmarius]

Saudi prince MBS put in charge of intel purge following Khashoggi death

https://www.rt.com/news/441785-saudi-intelligence-agency-restructure/

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has been appointed to head a ministerial committee tasked with restructuring the General Intelligence Agency, after its deputy director was sacked amid the Khashoggi death scandal.
The decision to appoint MbS to head the restructuring process came after King Salman issued a decree firing the agency's vice president, Ahmed bin Hassan bin Mohammed Asiri. The King has also issued orders to terminate some officers and appoint new ones within the primary intelligence agency of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

The committee tasked with overhauling the command of the general intelligence agency will include the country's Interior Ministry, the Foreign Ministry, and the chief of homeland security. The team will look at evaluating the methods and procedures of the agency and will set guidelines to determine the agency's powers. The task force will have a month to provide a progress report to the King.

The intelligence agency is being overhauled purely out of “public interest,” King Salman's order said. Therefore the committee will be tasked with devising a new “administrative and hierarchical” structure to ensure its “proper functioning” and “determination of responsibilities” within the spy agency, the SPA news agency reported.

The new measures, allegedly aimed at ensuring more “transparency” within the highly secretive intelligence structure, were introduced after the disappearance of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, last seen entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul over two weeks ago. Turkish officials have accused a Saudi assassination squad close to Bin Salman of murdering and dismembering the body of a journalist who wrote for The Washington Post.

After being forced to conduct an investigation amid international pressure, on Friday the Saudi prosecutor –finally for the first time– admitted that, according to its “preliminary” probe, Khashoggi died during an accidental fight at the consulate on October 2. Saudi authorities emphasized that they are fully committed to uncovering the truth and have already detained 18 suspects in connection with the case.

roflmao, you have got to be shitting me, lol. MBS planning another purge apparently. of course the world will pretend to believe this nonsense, so things can go back to normal business as usual asap.

 

[Elmer Bud]

https://www.rt.com/news/441783-saudi-arabia-khashoggi-died-fight/

Saudi Arabia says Khashoggi died in accidental ‘fistfight’ inside the consulate

Might as well say he slipped on banana peel and broke his neck/skull....I guess chopping him up alive with 4 dudes present was for what reason?

G `day Stormy

They have repatriated a few of their folks home before .
One prince was acting up ,so they called a meet . He got an injection in the neck in prep for repatriation and had complications .

Thanks for sharin

EB

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Gotta wonder if those 18 suspects have any blood on their hands at all.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Disappearance of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi – TIMELINE -

Dissident journalist went missing after visiting Saudi consulate in Istanbul to collect paperwork.

By:Bethan McKernan and Sam Levin

Protesters outside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.
Protesters hold posters bearing an image of Jamal Khashoggi outside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on 5 October.

Saudi Arabia has admitted journalist Jamal Khashoggi is dead, more than two weeks after the critic of the Saudi royals disappeared during a visit to the consulate in Istanbul.

The announcement and claim that the 59-year-old writer died in a “fist-fight” sparked new questions about the kingdom’s shifting public explanations of what happened on 2 October, and how the investigations have developed since. Turkish officials have slowly released details in the astonishing case of alleged Saudi state-sponsored murder.

Here is how the events have unfolded:

Friday 28 September

Khashoggi, after seeking assurances for his safety, visits the Saudi consulate in Istanbul to pick up paperwork he needs in order to get married. He is told to return next week when the documents will be ready.

Tuesday 2 October.

The journalist pays a second visit to the Saudi consulate. Hatice Cengiz, Khashoggi’s Turkish fiancee, waits outside the building for several hours with his personal effects including his phone – these are not allowed to be taken inside the diplomatic building – and then calls the police when he does not return.

Wednesday 3 October.

The Saudi government issues a statement confirming Khashoggi is missing. It says he disappeared after leaving the consulate building the day before and it is working with the Turkish authorities to find him. Turkish officials say they believe Khashoggi is still inside the building, which they cannot search without an invitation.

Thursday 4 October.

Turkey summons the Saudi ambassador in Ankara to the foreign ministry to discuss Khashoggi’s whereabouts. Human Rights Watch says if Saudi Arabia has detained Khashoggi without acknowledging it, his detention constitutes an enforced disappearance.

Friday 5 October.

In Riyadh, Saudi Arabia’s crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, says in an interview with Bloomberg that the Turkish authorities are welcome to search the consulate building in Istanbul. He declines to say whether Khashoggi is facing any charges at home, adding: “If he’s in Saudi Arabia, I would know that.”

Saturday 6 October.

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Reuters news agency is given a tour of the six-storey Saudi consulate to prove that the missing journalist is not being detained there. In the afternoon, Turkish prosecutors confirm an investigation has been opened.

Reuters claims two Turkish officials have leaked that their intelligence suggests Khashoggi was killed shortly after entering the consulate. Sources confirm to the Guardian that they believe the journalist is dead, adding – without providing evidence – that he was tortured and his body removed from the premises. Saudi Arabia denies what it says are “baseless” allegations.

Sunday 7 October.

Officials say they believe a hit squad of 15 men arrived from Saudi Arabia on 29 September and were present in the building on the day of Khashoggi’s disappearance, leaving shortly afterwards. Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, says he is “saddened” by the case and will wait for the results of the police investigation.

Monday 8 October.

Turkey summons the Saudi ambassador for a second time in order to request Riyadh’s “full cooperation” in the investigation, including permission to search the Istanbul consulate.

Tuesday 9 October.

British foreign secretary, Jeremy Hunt, demands answers in a meeting with the Saudi ambassador to London, releasing a statement saying, “Violence against journalists is going up and is a grave threat to freedom of expression. If media reports prove correct we will treat the incident seriously – friendships depend on shared values.”

Wednesday 10 October.

Details of an alleged hit squad are listed on flight manifests leaked to Turkish media. Reports emerge that Saudi special forces officers, intelligence officials, national guards and a forensics expert were allegedly part of a 15-person team tied to the disappearance of Khashoggi. Authorities also claim that security camera footage was removed from the Saudi consulate in Istanbul the day of the disappearance. Donald Trump says the US is “demanding” answers from the Saudi government.

Thursday 11 October.

Trump announces an investigation, but insists that the US will not forgo lucrative arms deals with Riyadh, regardless of the outcome. The Turkish and Saudi governments also announce they will conduct a joint investigation into the case, raising new fears of a cover-up of evidence.

Friday 12 October.

Turkish investigators allege that there are video and audio recordings to prove that Khashoggi was killed. Some officials say the evidence demonstrates that his body was dismembered.

Sunday 14 October.

US officials suggest that treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin may not attend an economic conference in Saudi Arabia due to the presumed murder of Khashoggi. Saudi Arabia’s stock market tumbles, with the biggest fall in years.

Monday 15 October.

Saudi Arabia says it will retaliate against any sanctions imposed over the disappearance of Khashoggi after JP Morgan and Ford pull out of the conference in Riyadh. Pressure intensifies as the French, German and UK foreign secretaries release a joint statement calling on the Saudi government to give a full account of the disappearance. Trump speculates that “rogue killers” may have been responsible for the death.

Tuesday 16 October.

Trump defends Saudi Arabia in a controversial interview, comparing the case to allegations of sexual assault against supreme court justice Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearing. “Here we go again with, you know, you’re guilty until proven innocent. I don’t like that. We just went through that with Justice Kavanaugh and he was innocent all the way as far as I’m concerned,” Trump tells the Associated Press.

Wednesday 17 October.

It is revealed that a key suspect in the alleged torture and murder of Khashoggi worked in Australia for three months at the Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine. Turkish officials say an audio recording proves Khashoggi was attacked by a Saudi hit-team when he entered the consulate. The audio allegedly reveals Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy, a forensic specialist, ordering the team to put on headphones and listen to music while dismembering Khashoggi’s body. Trump also says the US has asked Turkey for an audio recording.

On Wednesday evening, the Washington Post also publishes Khashoggi’s final column for the paper with the headline, Jamal Khashoggi: What the Arab world needs most is free expression.

Thursday 18 October.

Turkish investigators get access to the Saudi consul general’s residence in Istanbul and deploy floodlights and a drone. The search for Khashoggi’s body also extends to two woodland areas outside the city, a major expansion of the geographical scope of the inquiry.

The US and UK also join key European partners and pull out of a major economic forum in Saudi Arabia.

Friday 19 October.

Saudi Arabia admits that Khashoggi is dead. Riyadh claims that he was killed in a “fist-fight” with Saudi officials and announces a purge of senior officials, including Saud al-Qahtani, an influential adviser to Salman, and General Ahmed al-Asiri, a senior intelligence official. It is reported that 18 Saudi nationals have been arrested.

Trump calls the explanation credible, but Saudi Arabia’s claims are met with derision and incredulity from members of Congress.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-of-saudi-journalist-jamal-khashoggi-timeline

* Dastardly skulduggery continues - unabated.

 

[Elmer Bud]

G `day Gypsy

The bone saw ?
The very early reports were about a physician who had trained in forensics in Australia in the group of 15 . And in his luggage was a bone saw . Would a customs agent know what a bone saw looks like ? Or was he told that is a bone saw by the doctor ?

If they were "diplomats" . Why were their bags searched ? On the way in to Turkey , but not the way out ?

Especially if the Turks were recording inside the embassy when the dismemberment took place .
Or was it his pesky i watch that broadcast his murder from the cloud ?

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Yes - why would such a group be travelling with such a highly rated forensic pathologist - who happened to have a bone saw in his luggage?

Looks to me like he came equipped to go to work on Kashoggi - or how else do you explain 'Going Equipped?'....just like burglars caught with crow-bars and skeleton keys.

Holmes: So what do you think about this whole case dear chap?

Watson :....I think its a case of 'Dr Bone-Saw, in the embassy pursuing his trade old bean.

 

[Treetroit City]

Brought a bone saw to a fistfight...

 

[gaiusmarius]

Trump’s Alliance with Body-Choppers, Death Squads and Child Killers: Saudi Arabia, Brazil and Israel

https://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50463.htm

By Prof. James Petras

October 18, 2018 "Information Clearing House" - In recent weeks the White House has embraced the contemporary version of the world’s most murderous regimes. President Trump has embraced the Saudi Arabian “Prince of Death” Mohammad bin Salman who has graduated from chopping hands and heads in public plazas to dismembering bodies in overseas consulates – the case of Jamal Khashoggi.

The White House warmly greeted the electoral success of Brazilian Presidential candidate Jair Bolsonaro, ardent champion of torturers, military dictators, death squads and free marketers.

President Trump grovels, grunts and glories before Israel, as his spiritual guide Benjamin Netanyahu celebrates the Sabbath with the weekly murders and maiming of hundreds of unarmed Palestinians, especially youngsters.

These are President Trump’s ‘natural allies’. They share his values and interests while each retains their particular method of disposing of the cadavers of adversaries and dissenters.

We will proceed to discuss the larger political-economic context in which the trio of monsters operate. We will analyze the benefits and advantages which lead President Trump to ignore and even praise, actions which violate America’s democratic values and sensibilities.

In conclusion, we will examine the consequences and risks which result from Trump’s embrace of the trio.

The Context for Trump’s Tripler Alliance

President Trump’s intimate ties with the world’s most unsavory regimes flows from several strategic interests. In the case of Saudi Arabia, it includes military bases; the financing of international mercenaries and terrorists; multi-billion-dollar arms sales; oil profits; and covert alliances with Israel against Iran, Syria and Yemen.

In order to secure these Saudi assets, the White House is more than willing to assume certain socio-political costs.

The US eagerly sells weapons and provides advisers to Saudi’s genocidal invasion, murder and starvation of millions of Yeminis. The White House alliance against Yemen has few monetary rewards or political advantages as well as negative propaganda value.

However, with few other client states in the region, Washington makes do with Prince Salman ‘the salami slicer’.

The US ignores Saudi financing of Islamic terrorists against US allies in Asia (the Philippines) and Afghanistan as well as rival thugs in Syria and Libya.

Alas when a pro-US collaborator like Washington Post journalist and US resident Jamal Khashoggi was assassinated, President Trump was forced to adopt the pretense of an investigation in order to distance from the Riyadh mafia.He subsequently exonerated butcher boy bin Salman: he invented a flagrant lie-blaming ‘rogue elements’in charge of the interrogation,—read torture.

President Trump celebrated the electoral victory of Brazilian neo-liberal fascist Jair Bolsonaro because he checks all the right boxes: he promises to slash economic regulations and corporate taxes for multi-national corporations. He is an ardent ally of Washington’s economic war against Venezuela and Cuba. He promises to arm right-wing death squads and militarize the police. He pledges to be a loyal follower of US war policies abroad.

However, Bolsonaro cannot support Trump’s trade war especially against China which is the market for almost forty percent of Brazil’s agro-exports. This is especially the case since agro-business bosses are Bolsonaro’s principal economic and congressional supporters.

Given Washington’s limited influence in the rest of Latin America, Brazil’s neo-liberal fascist regime acts as Trump’s principal ally.

Israel is the White House’s mentor and chief of operations in the Middle East, as well as a strategic military ally .

Under the leadership of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel has seized and colonized most of the West Bank and militarily occupied the rest of Palestine; jailed and tortured tens of thousands of political dissidents; surrounded and starved over a million Gaza residents; imposed ethno-religious conditions for citizenship in Israel, denying basic rights for over 20% of the Arab residents of the self-styled ‘jewish state’.

Netanyahu has bombed hundreds of Syrian cities, towns, airports and bases in support of ISIS terrorists and Western mercenaries. Israel intervenes in US elections, buys Congressional votes and secures White House recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of the jewish state.

Zionists in North America and Great Britain act as a ‘fifth column’ securing unanimous favorable mass media coverage of its apartheid policies.

Prime Minister Netanyahu secures unconditional US financial and political support and the most advanced weaponry.

In exchange Washington considers itself privileged to serve as foot solders for Israeli targeted wars in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen and Somalia . . . Israel collaborates with the US in defending Saudi Arabia , Egypt and Jordan. Netanyahu and his Zionist allies in the White House succeeded in reversing the nuclear agreement with Iran and imposing new and harsher economic sanctions.

Israel has its own agenda :it defies President Trump’s sanctions policies against Russia and its trade war with China.

Israel eagerly engages in the sales of arms and high-tech innovations to Beijing.

Beyond the Criminal Trio

The Trump regime’s alliance with Saudi Arabia, Israel and Brazil is not despite but because of their criminal behavior. The three states have a demonstrated record of full compliance and active engagement in every ongoing US war.

Bolsonaro, Netanyahu and bin Salman serve as role models for other national leaders allied with Washington’s quest for world domination.

The problem is that the trio is insufficient in bolstering Washington’s drive to “Make the Empire Strong”. As pointed earlier, the trio are not completely in compliance with Trump’s trade wars; Saudi works with Russia in fixing oil prices. Israel and Brazil cuts deals with Beijing.

Clearly Washington pursues other allies and clients.

In Asia, the White House targets China by promoting ethnic separatism. It encourages Uighurs to split from China by encouraging Islamic terrorism and linguistic propaganda. President Trump backs Taiwan via military sales and diplomatic agreements. Washington intervenes in Hong Kong by promoting pro-separatist politicians and media propaganda backing ‘independence’.

Washington has launched a strategy of military encirclement and a trade war against China .The White House rounded-up Japan, Australia, New Zealand, the Philippines and South Korea to provide military bases which target China. Nevertheless, up to the present the US has no allies in its trade war. All of Trump’s so-called Asian ‘allies’ defy his economic sanctions policies.

The countries depend on and pursue trade with and investments from China. While all pay diplomatic lip service and provide military bases, all defer on the crucial issues of joining US military exercises off China’s coast and boycotting Beijing.

US efforts to sanction Russia into submission is offset by ongoing oil and gas agreements between Russia , Germany and other EU countries. US traditional bootlickers like Britain and Poland carry little political weight.

More important US sanctions policy has led to a long-term, large-scale strategic economic and military alliance between Moscow and Beijing.

Moreover Trump’s alliance with the ‘torture trio’ has provoked domestic divisions. Saudi Arabia’s murder of a US resident-journalist has provoked business boycotts and Congressional calls for reprisal. Brazil’s fascism has evoked liberal criticism of Trump’s eulogy of Brazilia’s death squad democracy.

President Trump’s domestic electoral opposition has successfully mobilized the mass media, which could facilitate a congressional majority and an effective mass opposition to his Pluto-populist (populist in rhetoric, plutocrat in practice) version of empire building.

Conclusion

The US empire building project is built on bluster, bombs and trade wars. Moreover, its closest and most criminal allies and clients cannot always be relied upon. Even the stock market fiesta is coming to a close. Moreover, the time of successful sanctions is passing. The wild-eyed UN rants are evoking laughter and embarrassment.

The economy is heading into crises and not only became of rising interest rates. Tax cuts are one shot deals – profits are taken and pocketed.

President Trump in retreat will discover that there are no permanent allies only permanent interests.

Today the White House stands alone without allies who will share and defend his unipolar empire. The mass of humanity requires a break with the policies of wars and sanctions. To rebuild America will require the construction, from the ground-up, of a powerful popular movement not beholden to Wall Street or war industries. A first step is to break with both parties at home and the triple alliance abroad.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

All of these Royals are in cahoots with each other - and Trump is about as close as you get to royalty stateside these days - The British royals also kow-tow to the Saudi's when they have their little business meetings every so often.

There is waaaaay too much money at stake to let a little thing like the odd savage murder and dismemberment get in the way.

 

[St. Phatty]

Watching the Saudi Royals at this point is like,

Beverly Hillbillies go Hannibal Lector, wearing the white desert robes.

God those robes must stink after a few days. Feel sorry for the women.

 

[beta]

Watching the Saudi Royals at this point is like,

Beverly Hillbillies go Hannibal Lector, wearing the white desert robes.

God those robes must stink after a few days. Feel sorry for the women.

I'm about to blow your mind - What if... they had multiple pairs of clothes?

The fact that you see them as stinky barbarians lays your hateful bigotry bare.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Trump called the official story "credible".

Money talks.

 

[Badfishy1]

I'm about to blow your mind - What if... they had multiple pairs of clothes?

The fact that you see them as stinky barbarians lays your hateful bigotry bare.

Democrat (founders of the klan and AGAINST minority’s rights) projecting muh bigotry... the irony
Inb4- no no the parties switched sides at some (unknown) point... top bantz there

 

[Badfishy1]

Yes - why would such a group be travelling with such a highly rated forensic pathologist - who happened to have a bone saw in his luggage?

Looks to me like he came equipped to go to work on Kashoggi - or how else do you explain 'Going Equipped?'....just like burglars caught with crow-bars and skeleton keys.

Holmes: So what do you think about this whole case dear chap?

Watson :....I think its a case of 'Dr Bone-Saw, in the embassy pursuing his trade old bean.

I commercial fish and typically carry a crab pot or 7 mile spool of long line in my luggage just in case, the fishing is right. People don’t carry tools of their trade in their luggage typically? Imagine muh shawwwwk

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Why do you incessantly write "muh"?

What is that accomplishing?

It could be construed as annoying idiocy by quite a few.... but I'm beginning to think that's the goal.

Now address spelling racist in a racist fashion....

Or am I just trolling a troll?

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Yes......but would you get on a flight from Riyadh to Istanbul with a crab-pot and a 7 mile spool line escorted by a bunch of the Saudi Prince's bodyguards - headed for the Saudi embassy in Istanbul?

....so then why would an expert in cutting up the dead be on that trip armed for employment?

I commercial fish and typically carry a crab pot or 7 mile spool of long line in my luggage just in case, the fishing is right. People don’t carry tools of their trade in their luggage typically? Imagine muh shawwwwk

 

[mean mr.mustard]

You never know when a fistfight is going to happen...