Safe addy--How?

[Sojourner]

I've been doing a lot of research on this, but I really haven't been able to get a decent answer.
I don't feel comfortable ordering seeds to my grow, so I have been trying to get a safe address. I recently attempted to get a P.O. box and was asked to present several forms of Identification, which in my mind defeats my purpose--a safe anonymous address. Also, the cost of maintaining a P.O. box for just two or three packs of seeds doesn't seem justifiable, especially if the P.O. box doesn't even offer any anonymity. I checked out the mailbox service that UPS offered, but they too wanted I.D.

My mantra has always been "tell no one", which I have always followed. There seems to be conflicting advice here, which is both the tell no one policy, and the importance of using a safe address. I would be hard pressed to explain why I want to use one of my friend's mailboxes, and even if they agreed I wouldn't feel right about shipping seeds to their address unless they knew about it.

How does everyone else deal with this? From reading around it seems virtually everyone is using a safe addy, but this would either require a P.O. box, or that they are violating the number one rule--tell nobody.

Is a P.O. box more secure, even if it requires I.D.?

 

[JJScorpio]

Usually a safe addy is someone that you trust that doesn't have anything in their home that would get them arrested. It must also be someone that you trust completely.....

 

[Sojourner]

Usually a safe addy is someone that you trust that doesn't have anything in their home that would get them arrested. It must also be someone that you trust completely.....

Yes, I understood that. None of my friends are like that though, most of them are pretty conservative in regards to marijuana.

About six months ago I put in an order at seedboutique, but it never arrived. I was foolish and just used cash, which I now think the mail was stolen. I only ordered one pack from nirvana seeds, so I'm only out about 30 bucks. But ever since then I have been extremely paranoid and apprehensive about ordering again.

 

[hamstring]

I have never been able to find anything that really works so I don’t mind posting those that have not or did not seam very secure.


I have looked for houses that are abandoned due to foreclosure where mail is still being dropped off. I personally tried this one by sending a letter to a couple of address to see if it would get there and it did not. Its sketchy at best many times the person has stopped the mail or the postman notices the mail not being picked up and stops delivering. I have heard that it worked for someone on a MJ forum before.

Also a PO box can be used and have multiple names assigned so no one person is culpable. I did this pre 911. I opened a PO box for business purposes and they let me assign other names to it. Not sure it is still possible. Still very sketchy because with a little investigation they can find out names are bogus. Obviously the seeds did make it but after awhile I felt vulnerable.

Any other success or failure stories out there?

 

[kmk420kali]

You can send it to anybody, without an addy...by putting a Name, Post Office Branch, and "General Delivery" on it-- Then you just go, or have someone go, to the Post Office, show ID and pick it up-- It is widely used for Homeless ppl...and husbands (and wives) wanting to receive porn without it going to the house-- The usually have a lot of that, so it isn't scrutinized much-- (At least not back when I was using it)

 

[tgpfarm]

Well I remember reading something with Marc Emery and when he got raided. The DEA sent letters to the names and addresses of seed sales they intercepted. The letter said something to the effect of: "In order to receive your seed purchase, please send $100 by Western Union to blah blah blah"

They have to prove that you are the one that actually purchased the seeds. Because you could have just been the safe address for someone else and never ordered seeds.

 

[hamstring]

You can send it to anybody, without an addy...by putting a Name, Post Office Branch, and "General Delivery" on it-- Then you just go, or have someone go, to the Post Office, show ID and pick it up-- It is widely used for Homeless ppl...and husbands (and wives) wanting to receive porn without it going to the house-- The usually have a lot of that, so it isn't scrutinized much-- (At least not back when I was using it)

WOW, that’s interesting but you must be right how else do homeless get mail. I wonder if they can have it sent to a shelter? I love it become homeless by spending a couple of nights in a shelter and receive your beans.
PEACE

 

[green_grow]

i never thought of the 'general delivery' thing ... sounds like an excellent idea to me.

 

[robbiedublu]

Doesn't the PO want some ID when picking up general delivery mail? Not such a great idea in my book. When you open a po box at a private delivery type of place you have to show ID, but you can have mail delivered to that box under any name you want. Have your seeds sent to your po box but not under your name. The only risk is the seeds being confiscated by customs.
You're right though, a few months of box rental will cost more than some seeds.

 

[Sojourner]

Interesting. How is general delivery more secure though? You're still showing identification and walking into the post office.

Also, ordering seeds to a foreclosed home seems very unwise. The owner could redirect or cease delivery while your seeds are in transit, plus you would essentially be "stealing" mail from their mailbox.

 

[hamstring]

Doesn't the PO want some ID when picking up general delivery mail? Not such a great idea in my book. When you open a po box at a private delivery type of place you have to show ID, but you can have mail delivered to that box under any name you want. Have your seeds sent to your po box but not under your name. The only risk is the seeds being confiscated by customs.
You're right though, a few months of box rental will cost more than some seeds.

I dont disagree with anything except the price of a PO box is around $60/6months.

 

[kmk420kali]

Instead of having a safe addy...you just have a safe homie--
Don't have it sent in your name...keep in mind, this is only to keep the grow secure...as seeds are not going to get you much time...unless you are in a 3rd World Country...like Florida--
But you just have someone else pick them up, then you do not compromise your grow...the person picking them up, should not be connected with you or the grow at all--

 

[Sojourner]

Instead of having a safe addy...you just have a safe homie--
Don't have it sent in your name...keep in mind, this is only to keep the grow secure...as seeds are not going to get you much time...unless you are in a 3rd World Country...like Florida--
But you just have someone else pick them up, then you do not compromise your grow...the person picking them up, should not be connected with you or the grow at all--

How does that even work? Find some stranger to pick up your seed mail for you? Regardless, they would have to show ID to pick it up, and unless you knew them beforehand how would you know what name to have it sent to? Doesn't the ID have to match to verify you're not just taking someone elses mail?

 

[JJScorpio]

i never thought of the 'general delivery' thing ... sounds like an excellent idea to me.

Going to a PO and signing for seeds is worse than having them delivered directly to your home. Wouldn't you have to think that you knew the package was coming if you showed up and signed for it?

 

[kmk420kali]

Going to a PO and signing for seeds is worse than having them delivered directly to your home. Wouldn't you have to think that you knew the package was coming if you showed up and signed for it?

Yeah...sorry all...I was maybe drunk postin'-- I have sent plenty that way...but maybe not from a seed company-- Peace--

 

[habeeb]

- never tell anyone your growing, if you can't keep it to yourself, how are they going to? never under any way break this rule, others might, but that's why they end up getting caught. all you do is read stories saying no one knew but my one trusted buddy... blah blah blah

- P.O boxes have to be setup with identification too ( law knows this tactic, your not being sneaky ) plus I'm sure you get in more trouble being that its government property...


just send the seeds to your house and stop worrying. worst case is they take your seeds and tell you you've been caught. we know of no case so far that a grower has been busted after getting the letter. there is no safe address when you talk about getting seeds into the US. you just have to roll the dice. once you do that first order and they come, your gonna be hooked.

 

[T-type]

just send the seeds to your house and stop worrying. worst case is they take your seeds and tell you you've been caught. we know of no case so far that a grower has been busted after getting the letter. there is no safe address when you talk about getting seeds into the US. you just have to roll the dice. once you do that first order and they come, your gonna be hooked.

Not really I believe there was a case in ohio where the guy got caught with seeds 10 times, and they came and got him....
However I dont say this so your paranoid about ordering seeds to your addy, i think that your own address is the safest safe address.
And they arent going to come in storm trooper style cause of some seeds, in fact they will tape the rest of your package up in some green tape and send you a little letter saying your not allowed to do that and you will never hear from them again.

 

[FirstTracks]

- never tell anyone your growing, if you can't keep it to yourself, how are they going to? never under any way break this rule, others might, but that's why they end up getting caught. all you do is read stories saying no one knew but my one trusted buddy... blah blah blah

- P.O boxes have to be setup with identification too ( law knows this tactic, your not being sneaky ) plus I'm sure you get in more trouble being that its government property...


just send the seeds to your house and stop worrying. worst case is they take your seeds and tell you you've been caught. we know of no case so far that a grower has been busted after getting the letter. there is no safe address when you talk about getting seeds into the US. you just have to roll the dice. once you do that first order and they come, your gonna be hooked.

I disagree. some people set up a po box and grow at a house that they aren't a registered name at (as an owner, resident of apt building, renter, etc).

In this case unless someone at the registered ad tells leo where you live, they won't easily find out where you grow. Thus, not connecting the seedbuy to any growing, at least not without some work hunting you down. At least it gives you a little more time to realize if they've caught on and get out of dodge or shut down well. just how I see it. May be off.

 

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