RIOTS AND LOOTING

[mrcreosote]

but i can see that there are underlying reasons why it kicked off.

There are.
In biology it is called opportunistic parasitic invasion.

 

[Stranger]

Its much more sanitary the way government does the same thing.
Opportunistic, authoritarian, parasitic invasions.


The surprise is surprising...

 

[STUPPA]

kinda reminding me of how "V" for vendetta started out.

I hope it ends the same way aswell kaboom! hehe best thing that could ever happen to the houses of parliment.

great film and it's not that far from reality i think.

 

[theherbalizor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP9q61Fjlqo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[headband 707]

Yeah I thought Vancouver BC looked bad with our riot but damn England your takin the cake here ...
I guess this is what happens when you let too many ppl in your country and there is no jobs or even a good social stucture .. This is happening around the world as ppl see the Gov has been one huge farc taking your money and lining their pockets with it. Money seems to corrupt all those who have it .. peace out Headband707

Oh BTW I would get rid of the Queen she is a total waste of cash.. Ask her to pull some cash out for HER ppl lol lol..

 

[lost in a sea]

people just think their harmless,,,i wonder why they changed their names from saxe-coburg-gotha to windsor lol

we thought we knew what a police state and big brother looked like, but that was just the tip of the iceberg,, its a pyramid shaped iceberg ...

 

[JB72]

Anyone noticed the EDL yob gatherings?

Fucking hell.....These fools are all we need adding to the mix.

Makes me cringe seeing these people in their Harrington jackets supping cans of lager on the streets, airing their fucked up logic.

I live right by where the gathering took place, I was so tempted to go and call them a bunch of racist ****s.

 

[trouble]

I'm glad you guys don't have the gun problem like your American counterparts.

DB, our brothers across the pond have the same problems, however, knifes, not guns are the problem in the UK, used to commit most murders, and violent attacks.

There are just a many knife stabbing murders in the Greater London area each week, as any American city it's size with guns.


Just last night in St Heller in Jersey, UK, a area of about 95,000 citizens, 6 people were stabbed to death at the hands of a mad man.

As someone mentioned earlier in this thread, "Things are not the problem"

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

DB, our brothers across the pond have the same problems, however, knifes, not guns are the problem in the UK, used to commit most murders, and violent attacks.

Ya think?

There are just a many knife stabbing murders in the Greater London area each week, as any American city it's size with guns.

Just last night in St Heller in Jersey, UK, a area of about 95,000 citizens, 6 people were stabbed to death at the hands of a mad man.

What are we comparing here, statistics or a point of view?

As someone mentioned earlier in this thread, "Things are not the problem"

You're welcome to your opinion. Things aren't animated but guns make killing others as easy as pulling a trigger.

 

[RudeDog]

DB, our brothers across the pond have the same problems, however, knifes, not guns are the problem in the UK, used to commit most murders, and violent attacks.

There are just a many knife stabbing murders in the Greater London area each week, as any American city it's size with guns.


Just last night in St Heller in Jersey, UK, a area of about 95,000 citizens, 6 people were stabbed to death at the hands of a mad man.

As someone mentioned earlier in this thread, "Things are not the problem"

I think the stabbings in Jersey were some bloke slaughtering his family or something like that, not street violence.

The gun problem in the UK is with the police....They shoot people for daft reasons. Some bloke was shot for carrying a table leg another for wearing a puffa coat in summer?

 

[trouble]

Ya think?



What are we comparing here, statistics or a point of view?



You're welcome to your opinion. Things aren't animated but guns make killing others as easy as pulling a trigger.

I don't think, I know the UK has a problem with violent*knife related crimes & murders.


I was attempting to make a point, that if one wishes to kill another, they will do so with what ever object available to them to carry-out their violent agenda gun or no gun.

Just recently millions of people were murdered in parts of Africa by groups, armed with nothing more than machetes. Genocide of millions of innocent people took place in todays world without a gun fired.

Guns do make it easier to kill others, than say stabbing someone several times with a knife, however, they both have the same tragic outcome, and results.

BTW, as your aware, there are many different type's of guns, which all have the potential to kill a person, however, they are designed for many different purposes, some for hunting different types of game, others for protection, and others which only purpose is to kill people.

As a gun owner myself, I'm all for tighter gun laws in America. For example, I see no need for citizen's to need an ak47 for hunting or personal protection, or many other more powerful automatic weapons available for sale in the US, which only purpose is to kill as many people as quickly as possible.


And it's a good thing guns are able to kill with the ease of pulling a trigger. Because, it allows many old people & women who are physically unable to protect themselves to do so, if they're home were ever to be invaded by others with bad intentions.

Which everyday in America there are innocent victims of such violent acts against them, that may have been avoided if they were legal gun owners, and trained to properly use them.

 

[mellow yellow]

Problem with that way of thinking is that the next time there is a legitimate protest by normal hard working folk who have just had enough...will the police make the distinction between people who have just had enough of cutbacks and those yobs robbing and vandalising last week.
Do you trust police hyped up on adrenaline to make the right decisions and use appropriate measured force??

"normal hard working folk" do not riot, loot and rob etc.

We have to have cuts, 13 years of labour has made sure of that!

 

[headband 707]

"normal hard working folk" do not riot, loot and rob etc.

We have to have cuts, 13 years of labour has made sure of that!

There you go I was waiting for someone to say this then I could say . Bro these KIDS that are doing this are completely broke ..lol .. They interviewed one of the looters and they said "don't you feel bad about robbing all the places"? He said" bad"? "This is like Christmas came early and I love my new tely"..
If you were, I will assume Black or Persian I bet it's pretty hard to find a job!
Anyone who thinks it's easy in this world without cash is dreaming and these kids are no different then anyone else. They use words like "austerity measures" and expect everyone to just tow the line and ppl are so sick of this BULLSHIT line they keep drawing in the sand.. Nah I don't think the kids should go crazy but I do understand why they are losing it with the current Gov in power. peace out Headband707

 

[SpasticGramps]

Riots: magistrates advised to 'disregard normal sentencing'

Magistrates are being advised by the courts service to disregard normal sentencing guidelines when dealing with those convicted of offences committed in the context of last week's riots.

The advice, given in open court by justices' clerks, will result in cases that would usually be disposed of in magistrates courts being referred to the crown court for more severe punishment.

It may explain why some of those convicted have received punitive sentences for offences that might normally attract a far shorter term.

In Manchester, a mother of two, Ursula Nevin, was jailed for five months for receiving a pair of shorts given to her after they had been looted from a city centre store. In Brixton, south London, a 23-year-old student was jailed for six months for stealing £3.50 worth of water bottles from a supermarket.

The Crown Prosecution Service also issued guidance to prosecutors on Monday, effectively calling for juveniles found guilty of riot-related crimes to be named and shamed. Those dealt with in youth courts are normally not identified. The youngest suspects bought before the courts last week in connection with the riots were an 11-year-old girl and a 12-year-old boy.

 

[Dislexus]

LOL dude stole WATER and lost 6 months of his life. Fool never heard of tap?!? lol

He should've told the magistrate he was trying to put out a fire... public emergency and all..

 

[Opus53]

as bad as it was how can the law be differant for some last week but not the week before...not deffending the riot squad I just see the chuckle brothers (dave& nik) overideing the process

 

[gaiusmarius]

typical over reaction! man this is madness are we not gonna follow the laws either now and just go on a big revenge binge? oh yeah sure lets abolish all normal procedures! wtf! i mean there is a perfectly good justice system in place and it should have been let to run it's course. sure stiff sentences where deserved, but justice can only be real justice if it's blind. if one man get a worse punishment then another for the same crime, just on the whim of society, then justice has not been served in fact justice has been defiled.

it's like the news papers are telling the politicians and judges what to do! it's incredible if you really think about it. this kind of precedent can and will be abused for all manner of situation in the future. they will use these draconian new rules on legitimate protesters next time for sure.

i mean what happened to normal adult measured reaction to things? why are we jumping in the air and preparing to throw the whole justice system and human rights act out the window because of a few 1000 misguided idiots?

i'm shocked that lawmakers are so ready to throw any laws that happen to get in the way of revenge on the rioters away at the drop of a hat. i'm sure that's not even legal you can't change the laws after the fact to punish the rioters differently. anything else resembles a 2 bit dictators policy rather then the rule of law.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

IMO, other countries are taking note of Britain's reaction to the riots. Future unrest will be addressed more quickly.

 

[azad]

Its all been orchestrated by the Rulers,The police were gonna be facing cuts,So they stood back,We all cried out and now the police have the winning cards,We want more cops now,Played straight into their hands..
thats just my opinions,based on nowt but a stoned therory....

 

[Stranger]