Plummeting Marijuana Prices for Growers

[HeLLMuTT]

Yeah monsanto.... "shivers"

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In terms of MMJ prices; Like a number of folks point out, if you're on your game you'll be fine. That's even growing any "insert your fav" Fire ass OG cut to something like blue dream... Lets say you grow both perfect and both yield really well. The yield is obviously lower from the og but you might get upwards of a 1000 bucks more per pound. Dont doubt strains like Blue Dream... You can really dial it in and hit 2 1/2. Even 3 a light in the perfect scenario, allowing you to do quite well.

There are lots of variables, so my best output would be for everyone to find and rockout whats best for them. Adapt and be creative.

Time to smoke.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

you guys heard about this new jerkoff in washington claiming hes gonna take over 40 percent of the national US marijuana business....but the worst part is HE PLANS ON IMPORTING MEXICAN WEED....not even locally grown US cannabis.


the things that big money is planning with our lively hoods makes me furious...

 

[SooperSmurph]

Are you saying clubs/dispensaries prefer indoor bud to outdoor?
Whats wrong with this picture?
Proper outdoor grown under the Sun surly equals Better Medicine than HPS fueled grows? Surly!
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It's a very complicated question, actually. Long story short, it's all about control, which the great outdoors simply cannot provide, so greenhouse will always be preferable to outdoor, and indoor will always be preferable to greenhouse, until that is techniques catch up and make greenhouses as easy to control as warehouses. There are greenhouses out there producing amazing herb, you wouldn't think it to look at it, but it takes a huge amount of hard work and research on the part of those setting it up, hard work and research expected of people who are used to throwing up a frame and putting some plants in it, your average greenhouse guy just isn't that in-depth.

 

[Lemon Larry]

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[BushyOldGrower]

Don't start that argument...

I am not an Eco terrorist and I won't fight by sinking ships and blowing up stuff.

You can do as you please but don't piss off all thhe outdoor and greenhouse growers.

Indoor organic gets the best price but theoretically the sun is a better light. I think greenhouse weed could be just as good as indoor...

 

[SooperSmurph]

Hard for local small timers to compete with massed imports, the same way mom and pop need dedicated customers to survive when walmart rolls in, I don't think it's a good direction for Cannabis to go in, i'm sure there are a lot of scared white senators who love the idea of getting growing "out of their backyard" while still being able to sell and tax cannabis.

 

[MedicalGrower]

Outdoor/Indoor

Outdoor/Indoor

Don't start that argument...

I am not an Eco terrorist and I won't fight by sinking ships and blowing up stuff.

You can do as you please but don't piss off all thhe outdoor and greenhouse growers.

Indoor organic gets the best price but theoretically the sun is a better light. I think greenhouse weed could be just as good as indoor...

Enough with destruction; we be needin more chillin...

Outdoor under ideal conditions, Wins; but how many years does one have to wait for that ideal year?

Control of Light, Temp, Humidity, Growing Medium, Food, Water and so forth makes INDOOR easier to produce Bud in a more Ideal condition (not better than) outdoors; of course this is often harder for many to pull off than it might sound.

So my hats off to all those growing their favorite Medicine by whatever means!

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[peterpan]

The way I see it if they legalize like alcohol everyone is screwed but if they legalize and regulate like they do wine I think everyone is in good shape. my hat off to you big boys not easy doing what you do. PP

 

[Lemon Larry]

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[BushyOldGrower]

Maybe we will form private clubs or cooperatives that still provide for their members in many ways like a country club. We will play pool and maybe darts...

Ahh well I dunno about giving darts to stoners...

Legal will be fun actually. We are gonna teach everyone how to party...

 

[Yes4Prop215]

The way I see it if they legalize like alcohol everyone is screwed but if they legalize and regulate like they do wine I think everyone is in good shape. my hat off to you big boys not easy doing what you do. PP

regulating like wine is better for everyone involved...in the wine industry the groups are all seperated for the most part, there are some big companies that have 1000 acre vineyards and make their own blends, but the majority of vineyards simply grow grapes, which are then sold to processors who then turn them into wines, which are then sold to distributors, etc...

so pot farmers would stick to growing...and the co-ops, clubs, storefronts whatever would stick to selling their wares, and on and on...

its the whole Seed-to-sale thing that really benefits the mega corps, because then the average farmer who cant get a permit is screwed, and the co-op that doesnt have a million dollars to invest in a mega warehouse is screwed....its basically easier for big money to hijack our industry with seed to sale in my opinion...each business needs to focus on what they are good at, growing, retail, distribution, etc...

but then again who knows....when you have jerkoffs claiming to hijack 40% of the market with mexican grown weed who the fuck knows what will happen to us regular folk who dont have big money backing us...

 

[Kush Technician]

When people realize they can get better herb from their neighbor than the corner store or Walgreens, there won't be any stake in the market large enough to be worth it for mega-corps. So I don't see any large corporations seriously being in any position to jump in to an already established black market.

And there are nowhere near enough gubbie pigs to stop the black market, ever.

 

[Lemon Larry]

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[BushyOldGrower]

I think a line of good cannabis cigars might be a good project. Have them hand rolled and marketed properly to elite distributors of fine tobaccos?

A whole world of legal possibilities awaits legalization so don't fear progress.

How about a Star Trek movie showing off duty crew members enjoying synthahol (cannabis) in vapes and bongs?

It would change the world and change is scary but illegal or quasi-legal sucks more.

 

[frito bandito]

^ I have an idea for an animated scifi series i would like to create....kinda like an "adult swim" style cartoon, sort of similar to archer, but in space. i like your idea. im imagining a scene where the bridge crew is passing around a joint while docking their spaceship, or some such. haha

 

[Chunkypigs]

Didja hear about the Oregon congressman who is introducing the
Marijuana Tax Equity Act of 2013 to Congress??

https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/hr501

This is designed to let the feds rape everyone working in weed
where it's legal in the state. every individual working in the weed
biz will have to pay a federal $500 yearly permit fee and the business
will pay a $1000 a year federal permit.

This is all before the states and cities add their taxes, if this thing passes the black market can rejoice
because cheap weed will never happen...

The Marijuana Tax Equity Act creates a taxation framework similar
to that in place for the tobacco and alcohol industries. It imposes
an excise tax of 50% on the first sale by a producer (generally the
grower) to the next stage of production (generally the processor
creating the useable product).


Imposes a tax of 50% on the first sale of marijuana from the grower
to the processor, wholesaler, or distributor. No tax is imposed for
transfers between cultivators, only the initial sale down the stream of
production. Packaging and containers are included in the price.

 

[BushyOldGrower]

Imagine a world where cannabis is legal...

It could be a much cooler planet.

 

[mojave green]

Didja hear about the Oregon congressman who is introducing the
Marijuana Tax Equity Act of 2013 to Congress??

https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/hr501

This is designed to let the feds rape everyone working in weed
where it's legal in the state. every individual working in the weed
biz will have to pay a federal $500 yearly permit fee and the business
will pay a $1000 a year federal permit.

This is all before the states and cities add their taxes, if this thing passes the black market can rejoice
because cheap weed will never happen...

The Marijuana Tax Equity Act creates a taxation framework similar
to that in place for the tobacco and alcohol industries. It imposes
an excise tax of 50% on the first sale by a producer (generally the
grower) to the next stage of production (generally the processor
creating the useable product).


Imposes a tax of 50% on the first sale of marijuana from the grower
to the processor, wholesaler, or distributor. No tax is imposed for
transfers between cultivators, only the initial sale down the stream of
production. Packaging and containers are included in the price.

sooo, they want us to pay them for our confessions to violating federal law?

 

[blueridgegrower]

Didja hear about the Oregon congressman who is introducing the
Marijuana Tax Equity Act of 2013 to Congress??

https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/hr501

This is designed to let the feds rape everyone working in weed
where it's legal in the state. every individual working in the weed
biz will have to pay a federal $500 yearly permit fee and the business
will pay a $1000 a year federal permit.

This is all before the states and cities add their taxes, if this thing passes the black market can rejoice
because cheap weed will never happen...

The Marijuana Tax Equity Act creates a taxation framework similar
to that in place for the tobacco and alcohol industries. It imposes
an excise tax of 50% on the first sale by a producer (generally the
grower) to the next stage of production (generally the processor
creating the useable product).


Imposes a tax of 50% on the first sale of marijuana from the grower
to the processor, wholesaler, or distributor. No tax is imposed for
transfers between cultivators, only the initial sale down the stream of
production. Packaging and containers are included in the price.

Screw all that crap, prices have been dropping an will continue to drop! What would really help if some legit site would have a "Vendor" list of safe sellers! I know one guy selling for 2g a pound, I would sell for similiar amount an do, yet who knows an even if you find a site selling such as

Yet who can you trust, send money an get rip! Yet if they were which there might be an I simply not in the know! Yet, IMHO, a site of safe vendors with "Real" reviews would go a long way in driving prices down.

 

[BushyOldGrower]

Deregulate and lower the prices?

Where pot is legal it stays expensive to keep usage down.

Prices should be reasonable and around two hundred an oz would be fair.

I like the idea of a grower, seller, buyer network. Everyones product up for reviews and then let the market set the price. Good way to keep it to small grows.

Prices will reflect the quality and the availability so you would want something exclusive.

Some of you may think I am a rich and huge player but I am not. Alas, I must struggle to pay my bills just like you all. Bog