Hello Collembola,
Most of the parental plants we have been using to produce the PCK stock belong to purple/pink phenos. You will find very easily good colorful phenos in every pack.
Hello Collembola,
Most of the parental plants we have been using to produce the PCK stock belong to purple/pink phenos. You will find very easily good colorful phenos in every pack.
MountZionCollec
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PCK Fem with purple buds and yellow pistils, the smell is very citrusy/lemony but also with a mix of flowers/floral smelling
Purple PCK maturing outdoors in mid Sept
Purple PCK maturing outdoors in mid Sept
First 3 pics are the Purple PCK mother selected by a good friend in 2011, very early flowering, colorful, compact size, resistant, lovely strawberry/blackberry aromas, ready in mid September.
Fourth pic is another PCK mother also selected in 2011, similar to the previous one but a bit taller and better yielding, not so aromatic.
In the last 2 pics, the original purple PCK mother from 2002, it's the mother that we have used to produce most of our PCK releases and all the PCK fem crosses. She is a bit lankier and needs 10 days more to finish than the other 2, but has the most refined strawberry/blackberry aromas we have found after many years and generations working with this line.
Purple PCK maturing outdoors in mid Sept
First 3 pics are the Purple PCK mother selected by a good friend in 2011, very early flowering, colorful, compact size, resistant, lovely strawberry/blackberry aromas, ready in mid September.
Fourth pic is another PCK mother also selected in 2011, similar to the previous one but a bit taller and better yielding, not so aromatic.
In the last 2 pics, the original purple PCK mother from 2002, it's the mother that we have used to produce most of our PCK releases and all the PCK fem crosses. She is a bit lankier and needs 10 days more to finish than the other 2, but has the most refined strawberry/blackberry aromas we have found after many years and generations working with this line.
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Old PCK mother reversed
Old PCK mother reversed
May interest you.... Here's the Old Purple PCK mother reversed, should open the flowers next week to pollinate different strains. Sorry for the quality of the pics, it was a very sunny windy day.
Old PCK mother reversed
May interest you.... Here's the Old Purple PCK mother reversed, should open the flowers next week to pollinate different strains. Sorry for the quality of the pics, it was a very sunny windy day.
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thats a beauty salad picture juicy and fresh!!!
Here a Thai x PCK F1 homemade cross, I,ve popped 5 testseeds and so far 2 have shown sex.
I hope its ok to show them here and keep you updated? I thought maybe someone is interested to see a cross between a PCK green male and a pure tropical sativa.
male:
female:
1love
Hmong
I hope its ok to show them here and keep you updated? I thought maybe someone is interested to see a cross between a PCK green male and a pure tropical sativa.
male:
female:
1love
Hmong
Of course Hmong 
Feel free to post the progresses of your thai x green PCK F1 hybrid.
I did a Purple Haze x Purple PCK cross many years ago and it worked great.
PCK lowers down a lot the flowering time in sativas of moderate/short flowering, i have plenty of experience with african sativa x pck hybrids, but not so much with hybrids between ultra long flowering tropical sativas x pck. If your thai is a thai of 20 weeks of flowering (like they usually are) then expect your hybrid will take at least 3 months to fully mature, hopefully i'm wrong and you can find earlier nice expressions.
Good luck!
Feel free to post the progresses of your thai x green PCK F1 hybrid.
I did a Purple Haze x Purple PCK cross many years ago and it worked great.
PCK lowers down a lot the flowering time in sativas of moderate/short flowering, i have plenty of experience with african sativa x pck hybrids, but not so much with hybrids between ultra long flowering tropical sativas x pck. If your thai is a thai of 20 weeks of flowering (like they usually are) then expect your hybrid will take at least 3 months to fully mature, hopefully i'm wrong and you can find earlier nice expressions.
Good luck!
thanks for that viable info, dubi.
I too expected them to take around 3 months to mature, since they show preflowers which the Thai did not at all under 18/6. Interesting you mention that, indeed my motherplants where 6 Hmong Hilltribe female phenos which took from 17 up to 26 weeks to mature under 600hps indoors (which is a horrible inviornment for them, the end up very whispy)
my goal isn't in shorting the flowering time per se
I had got my hands on 20 seeds of this thai and popped 10 last year, sadly I endet up with 6 Females and no Male. And even the girls did not hermy at all^^
which you normally want to, but you might put a blind eye to it if it fits your purpose of preservation in its pure form. Before flowering i took clones of course but after sexing I knew i had to come up with some idea to safe those genes in the best way possible in a seed form. I knew there was no rush to produce a viable pollenchucker during the ramaining flowering time, but it had to be a pure line too.
So i checked my seedstash and chose PCK as a promising option since its truebreeding traits are quite known and so are more predictable to outcross.
I popped a few PCK and lost all, except 2 to a badly mixed soil. In the end i had a green Male and a green Female. the male was ready to shed pollen 11 weeks into thai flowering and i openly dusted the whole growbox with it.
got a few oz of this F1 seeds to work with in the future. the goal is to steadily select for thai traits and backcross a matching male to those 10 beans of the pure Hmong Hilltribe I've got left, in case i end up without a male again, which we know is common with tropical landraces
the clones I took from the first run got lost, those 10 beans are all thats left of this line.
but for this last 10 beans I got varous options now to continue further in such a case.
thx to you also btw
I'm running Panama atm and will keep a male clone just in case, to do a Sativa/Sativa F1 Hybrid, which imho is more promising in to long run to preserve those pure Sativa genes.
the best option for preservation would be feminizing I guess, but I've never done that before.
mabe you could pass on some of your wisdom to a novice in the art of breeding
greets Hmong
I too expected them to take around 3 months to mature, since they show preflowers which the Thai did not at all under 18/6. Interesting you mention that, indeed my motherplants where 6 Hmong Hilltribe female phenos which took from 17 up to 26 weeks to mature under 600hps indoors (which is a horrible inviornment for them, the end up very whispy)
my goal isn't in shorting the flowering time per se
I had got my hands on 20 seeds of this thai and popped 10 last year, sadly I endet up with 6 Females and no Male. And even the girls did not hermy at all^^
which you normally want to, but you might put a blind eye to it if it fits your purpose of preservation in its pure form. Before flowering i took clones of course but after sexing I knew i had to come up with some idea to safe those genes in the best way possible in a seed form. I knew there was no rush to produce a viable pollenchucker during the ramaining flowering time, but it had to be a pure line too.
So i checked my seedstash and chose PCK as a promising option since its truebreeding traits are quite known and so are more predictable to outcross.
I popped a few PCK and lost all, except 2 to a badly mixed soil. In the end i had a green Male and a green Female. the male was ready to shed pollen 11 weeks into thai flowering and i openly dusted the whole growbox with it.
got a few oz of this F1 seeds to work with in the future. the goal is to steadily select for thai traits and backcross a matching male to those 10 beans of the pure Hmong Hilltribe I've got left, in case i end up without a male again, which we know is common with tropical landraces
the clones I took from the first run got lost, those 10 beans are all thats left of this line.
but for this last 10 beans I got varous options now to continue further in such a case.
thx to you also btw
I'm running Panama atm and will keep a male clone just in case, to do a Sativa/Sativa F1 Hybrid, which imho is more promising in to long run to preserve those pure Sativa genes.
the best option for preservation would be feminizing I guess, but I've never done that before.
mabe you could pass on some of your wisdom to a novice in the art of breeding
greets Hmong
Hi Hmong,
Sounds like you have a very interesting preservation/breeding project with the Hmong Hilltribe Thai.
Could you provide a link with more info about the line ? Is it a citric/lemony thai, perfumey or woody ? With a clean and positive effect or more electric/nervous ?
It's a pitty that you couldn't find a pure thai male to reproduce your thai females before they were lost, sometimes it's really hard to find good and pure males (non hermie) in extreme SE asian tropical sativas.
Hope the last seeds of the line germinate well so you can continue with its preservation in pure form.
The Thai x PCK cross should be interesting as a hybrid, PCK usually makes great hybrids with many kinds of different sativas, PCK colors and aromas are quite dominant when it is outcrossed with sativas, but respects very well the psychoactivity of the sativa, much better than crossing thais with afghanis which makes the effect much heavier and adds lots of sensibility against wet conditions and mold.
I'm sure you can find great expressions in the F2,F3, ... generations of your hybrid, maybe looking for good early flowering phenos with the highest thai influence in the smoke.
It would take many many generations to completely avoid the indica traits once the thai is crossed with indica, i'm not sure it can even be done.
Best wishes!
Sounds like you have a very interesting preservation/breeding project with the Hmong Hilltribe Thai.
Could you provide a link with more info about the line ? Is it a citric/lemony thai, perfumey or woody ? With a clean and positive effect or more electric/nervous ?
It's a pitty that you couldn't find a pure thai male to reproduce your thai females before they were lost, sometimes it's really hard to find good and pure males (non hermie) in extreme SE asian tropical sativas.
Hope the last seeds of the line germinate well so you can continue with its preservation in pure form.
The Thai x PCK cross should be interesting as a hybrid, PCK usually makes great hybrids with many kinds of different sativas, PCK colors and aromas are quite dominant when it is outcrossed with sativas, but respects very well the psychoactivity of the sativa, much better than crossing thais with afghanis which makes the effect much heavier and adds lots of sensibility against wet conditions and mold.
I'm sure you can find great expressions in the F2,F3, ... generations of your hybrid, maybe looking for good early flowering phenos with the highest thai influence in the smoke.
It would take many many generations to completely avoid the indica traits once the thai is crossed with indica, i'm not sure it can even be done.
Best wishes!
