buddin_904
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spinosad is acceptable to use with cannabis lazyman???.....i trust your answer too
Noob Questions about preparing Coco.
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MacGyver420
i have been using the atami (bcuzz) coco for about a year now and its the best quality imo - although i think that all coco comes with bugs now a days so gotta rinse it anyways
i mix in up to 45-50% perlite in my bags and water daily; nutrients every other day
6ml gal grow / 9ml gal bloom (im using cutting edge nutrients)
1 gram per gallon epsom salts
ph is 5.8 some days 6.0 others
if your growin a 4k room all coco there WILL BE bugs so take lazymans advice and use an insecticide early on
ive been using spinosad as well its highly effective; i know that it stays in the plants for something like 60-70 days and it supposedly is safe to use but i have my doubts -- in my mind NO pesticide can possibly be 100% safe for human consumption (but thats an entirely different topic altogether)
my last grow i thought i could get away with not applying any kind of bug control and it bit me in the ass -- makes me want to just go back to hydro
i mix in up to 45-50% perlite in my bags and water daily; nutrients every other day
6ml gal grow / 9ml gal bloom (im using cutting edge nutrients)
1 gram per gallon epsom salts
ph is 5.8 some days 6.0 others
if your growin a 4k room all coco there WILL BE bugs so take lazymans advice and use an insecticide early on
ive been using spinosad as well its highly effective; i know that it stays in the plants for something like 60-70 days and it supposedly is safe to use but i have my doubts -- in my mind NO pesticide can possibly be 100% safe for human consumption (but thats an entirely different topic altogether)
my last grow i thought i could get away with not applying any kind of bug control and it bit me in the ass -- makes me want to just go back to hydro
Yeah spinosad is spinosad, brand doesn't matter. I ended up using Bonide's Capt Jack Deadbug brew from a local hardware store. Anticipate having bugs, and have the arsenal to combat them (and fungicides) so you can have smooth runs and good crops. It doesn't matter if you've never had mites, thrips, root aphids or PM, you should have everything on hand to combat all of these at a moments notice, and then some!
I'm new to coco but I'm not new to trial and error.
I have been using the Bio Bizz 50L bags and I've now gotten a solid method down that makes for very little mess.
I use the following:
1x. 5 gallon bucket
1x. Pair of scissors, or a sharp object.
4x. 1 gallon pots
1x. container large enough so that the bag of coco mix will sit in it. And large / strong enough to hold a few gallons of water.
Take the 4 gallon pots and just flip them upside down and place into container. They are going to support the weight of the bag.
Take your sharp object and go jason voorhees (stab) on the bottom of the bag and up along the bottom sides.
Place bag into container.
Fill up your 5 gallon bucket, fill with ph adjusted water and give the bag a few gallons to flush. If you want to test the run off just raise it up and collect.
Then after you have washed a few gallons of ph'd water, add in the nutrients you are going to be using and let that flush through a few times. Again checking run off.
I do the same thing for the perlite only I just use sink / tap water. I just rinse it off until there is no more dust, and it's good and moist.
I then fill the bottom of each container with 2" of #4 perlite. For the rest of the container I mix in 30% perlite with the coco, then top dress the container with coco.
I'm using the Rez formula modified for CES and my plants look very happy.
The reason for rinsing the coco while in the bag helps for a few reasons.
1. It keeps the hair from getting out of the bag. The hair will clog up drains faster than anything. *trial and error*.
2. What medium you don't use, just roll up the bag and store it in a cool dry place. When you need it again, it should need little work.
3. I found it makes less mess just scooping out of the bag instead of trying to mix it in containers.
Anyone have any tips to make this any easier?
I have been using the Bio Bizz 50L bags and I've now gotten a solid method down that makes for very little mess.
I use the following:
1x. 5 gallon bucket
1x. Pair of scissors, or a sharp object.
4x. 1 gallon pots
1x. container large enough so that the bag of coco mix will sit in it. And large / strong enough to hold a few gallons of water.
Take the 4 gallon pots and just flip them upside down and place into container. They are going to support the weight of the bag.
Take your sharp object and go jason voorhees (stab) on the bottom of the bag and up along the bottom sides.
Place bag into container.
Fill up your 5 gallon bucket, fill with ph adjusted water and give the bag a few gallons to flush. If you want to test the run off just raise it up and collect.
Then after you have washed a few gallons of ph'd water, add in the nutrients you are going to be using and let that flush through a few times. Again checking run off.
I do the same thing for the perlite only I just use sink / tap water. I just rinse it off until there is no more dust, and it's good and moist.
I then fill the bottom of each container with 2" of #4 perlite. For the rest of the container I mix in 30% perlite with the coco, then top dress the container with coco.
I'm using the Rez formula modified for CES and my plants look very happy.
The reason for rinsing the coco while in the bag helps for a few reasons.
1. It keeps the hair from getting out of the bag. The hair will clog up drains faster than anything. *trial and error*.
2. What medium you don't use, just roll up the bag and store it in a cool dry place. When you need it again, it should need little work.
3. I found it makes less mess just scooping out of the bag instead of trying to mix it in containers.
Anyone have any tips to make this any easier?
benzo
Active member
your method sounds good geekusa. But a pillow case works WONDERS! It is so much easier. You are way more likely to rip the bag, then you are to rip the pillow case. Then once it is rinsed thoroughly, you can beat the pillow case to death to get out the excess water.
If you are storing coco, you dont want it to be dripping wet cause it can get moldy..
If you are storing coco, you dont want it to be dripping wet cause it can get moldy..
Damn more wisdom from ya - that makes perfect sense!
hm... that's totally not what i wanted to hear... i'm deathly afraid of bugs.
What would you recommend having on hand specifically?
InducedSerenity
Member
Check out Lazyman's threads for a pretty intense foliar spray he uses. As far as what I use after my research:
preventative spray in early veg and then week 1 flower:
Floramite SC (or avid / forbid)
Eagle 20 for PM
Bayer Complete
Watered with 10ml/gal bayer complete as well, and crumbled mosquito dunks onto the coco. This combo takes care of fungus gnats and root aphids - search for both if you want a bunch of good reading.
preventative spray in early veg and then week 1 flower:
Floramite SC (or avid / forbid)
Eagle 20 for PM
Bayer Complete
Watered with 10ml/gal bayer complete as well, and crumbled mosquito dunks onto the coco. This combo takes care of fungus gnats and root aphids - search for both if you want a bunch of good reading.
Lazyman, was curious if you are using a cup of the concentrated formula or just the normal red label with a sprayer...
LonelyNerd
Member
Blaze215
Active member
I too would like to know the answer to this question.
