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Nomaad III: 2011

somoz

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According to Boris, there are (unlike many "zyme" products) NO bacteria in HGZ.

All this makes me want to get a microscope.

Does anybody have the list of instruments that Tom Hill posted last year for testing soil? I am running behind on testing my soil and some amendment mixes and would rather have the capability in house to run the required tests.

Think this might be the link you're looking for. He has 5 meters that he likes to use.

ORP, refractometer (reads degrees Brix/%sucrose), PH, ERGS, and an Na reader. Hope the tests read well for you.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=159846&do=filter&fid=1547&page=2
 
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SexInTheCity

Yes, Nomaad is at it again...I hope the weather treats your right my phriend and all is saphe!!!
 

localhero

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On the pie plate idea (awesome idea, and i would also paint the outside to cut back on the shining from miles away in the sun effect) you can squirt silicone into the twist connects and then youll have water proof connections. they sell twist connects pre embedded with silicone in them, but theyre a ripoff. you can do the same thing yourself.
 
M

Mountain

did you let a fart slip out?
Yeah man and just aired out my house and since the wind is blowing north to south you'll know what I was Oooopsing about in a few hours :D

No man it was the meter thing and deleted my OP so as not to confuss things...
Does anybody have the list of instruments that Tom Hill posted last year for testing soil? I am running behind on testing my soil and some amendment mixes and would rather have the capability in house to run the required tests.
Then read...
Think this might be the link you're looking for. He has 5 meters that he likes to use.

ORP, refractometer (reads degrees Brix/%sucrose), PH, ERGS, and an Na reader. Hope the tests read well for you.
From what I understand Tom tests solution ORP before applying, a refractometer has to do with sap and while brix is mainly about sugar much more than that from what I understand, pH of what...soil, solution or sap...most likely soil or solution, ERGS for sure soil and Na is sap. At first I read that post as some type of 5-in-1 meter and was like :confused: but then just realized I misread that post.

You were asking about soil testers, I read that post and got confused.

That thread the link is for is 208 pages...so which meters? Only one you'd have to figure out is the pH thing and for either soil or solution would be different.
 
M

Mountain

Maybe you'd want to invest in a LaMotte test kit for better onsite soil analysis? If you wanna get into a microscope I recommend you talk to Microbeman here for his suggestions.
 

nomaad

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that looks like the business.

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nomaad

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I used a refractometer throughout veg last season to measure brix levels in sap. Like an idiot, I lent it to somebody. Haven't seen it since. I will be investing in some testing gear for sure. I hate the whole send it out and wait for results paradigm.
 
M

Mountain

that looks like the business.
Dude...almost 5 years back there was an indoor grower on another forum and she was monitoring her grows with a LaMotte kit and I was like :jawdrop:
First and only person I ever ran across that was that scientific with indoor hydro/soilless/soil stuff and for organic/organic based/salts. She said no way I could tell the difference between her organic and salt grown weed. I had a chance to connect, blew it off then she retired a few months later. Most online peeps never knew he was a she...lol!
 
M

Mountain

Since we're on the subject...kind of...wanna say you should use the liquid stuff I gave you and here's why...in studies with tomatoes it was found that older, mature leaves in plants that were conventionally fed showed a significant variation in nutrient content when the plants were deep into fruiting and under maximum stress. This means those plants were feeding off of themselves because they were not pulling enough nutrients from the soil regardless of how soluble they may be. Those same plants fed the same soluble nutes in addition to what I gave you FROM THE START did not show these variations in older growth leaves. Soooo...the 'juice' helps create an enviro where once you get deep into flower/fruiting the plants can, and really have been all along, extract(ing) the nutrients from the soil they really need instead of feeding off of themselves later on and dealing with a situation where the older growth becomes necrotic and diseased or susceptible to pests like mites.

You should really build healthy plant growth from the start as once you get into flowering trying to 'treat' the plant nutritionally is really too late and that old growth is really already set in stone.

It for sure won't hurt and only help.
 

nomaad

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This year we'll be able to hit the plants with Seacrop from early veg. I have 3 gallons left. Is it available? I might just dose one of my three zones... The comparison will yield good info.
 
M

Mountain

the space man, did not keep great notes.
Space Man...yeah had some fun conversations with him!

Do you want a simple program for like 2 applications per growing cycle/season or do you want me to break it down into a weekly regimen? Weekly would be better but maybe a PITA in addition to everything else you got going on?

Don't be concerned about how much you have cause that's easily taken care of. My local friend that's into dealing with this stuff said no problemo supplying samples.

I dunno that you should strictly look at yield info and maybe also pay attention to bud quality, general plant health and any sap testing you do through the season?
 

nomaad

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I can do it weekly if you think it will render the best results. Yield has been conquered. Can't complain about what I am pulling out of 200 gallons of dirt. I am, however, always trying to raise the bar for quality.
 

.clunk

Member
Hey Nomaad, just wondering if you can shed some light on your foliar feeding routine. What types of foliar applications do you do in veg, and what do you find the most efficient for application? Do you use alfalfa meal tea or have any advice you can share with the use of tea's?

I know you've mentioned it in past years, but for some reason I can't dig up the info in your posts.

Thanks man!
 

UnknownProphet

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Man o man. I looked through this and thought I was missing something. And I was...my smoke report!?! I spent quite a while writing it and guess I stonerly forgot to press post. Derrrrpp.

My bad buddy I will get it up tomorrow for sure. Very happy to be doing some outdoor this years aswell. In the great words of Rakim, "It's been a long time; I shouldn't've left you..."
 
M

Mountain

To help break this down better...

1. Best I can remember when you transplanted the starts into the 200 gal Smart pots you only watered around the start and did not soak the whole pot. Approximately how much water/solution did you use?
2. How many weeks after transplant did you soak the whole pot?
3. When you started regular watering after full pot soaks how much water do they get per pot?
4. How many times per week were you watering?
5. How many weeks after transplant did you start your foliar regimen?
6. For this year, not needing to know what you're applying, will you be doing weekly foliar applications of some sort?

This will help my friend break down the program better...thx.
 

UnknownProphet

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UnknownProphet's Nomaadic Smoke Report

UnknownProphet's Nomaadic Smoke Report

BLUE DREAM-This is very common strain here (in California), but nothing about this particular dream was normal. Huge impeccable buds with slathered layers of crystallization, finding more and more keif cavities the more you break into her. The smoke is a pleasure of smooth blueberry tones which shine through more than some straight blueberry I've tried. Burns to lovely white ash; clean to say the least. I found many veteran smokers, including myself, could partake in a full day of medicating and if this blue dream was brought out it was on to the next level, if that makes any sense. Very strong and heady and I could see this being almost too strong for those who aren't 'seasoned' smokers or used to very sativa dominant strains. I personally found it as "do stuff" medicine: cleaning, writing, studying, gardening, being easily motivated and productive. Out of the samples I tried from Nomaad, all were incredibly impressive, but this was my favorite. Never built a tolerance and actually one of the only things that gives me blood shot eyes. And although I did say this was and is a sativa dominant strain, after an hour or two hunger and sleepiness can ensue depending on amount inhaled or ingested, very medicinal staple strain.
Under the scope: mainly a mix of cloudy and clear glands with around 5% amber.

PINEAPPLE COUGH-Very distinctive look, bulbus calyx stacked with light tannish green coloration. The smell was unique and devine, found it hard to smoke the last bud because I wanted to just smell it. The taste was equally palet pleasing, old school earth funk with undertones of pineapple. Effect for me was uppity and instantly strong, but not too overwhelming. Definitely sativa dom, but had some indica attributes like appetite stimulation (or maybe I'm just a fat kid at heart). I like this a lot for the simple feel good factor and could see this strain being great for those with anxiety or PTSD.
Under the scope: smoked it all before I remembered to look. Oops.

THE COUGH-Old school defines this strain. I wouldn't say the best looker as some of the other samples had better calyx to leaf ratio, but the nostalgia once the smoke hits your taste buds more than makes up for it. Chocolate black licorice flavor that heavily expands in the lungs. Wonder why they call it cough??? also seemed to more of amcreper than an instant head shot. 1 single hit out of my roor had me paranoid and almost anxious, strong to say the least.

NANCY BOTWIN-A hybrid made by my good buddy and old IC'er TheBandit777. He used a male from a pack of Federation Romulan to cross to a Purple Urkle clone. Lucky or great selection I'm not sure, but the results are a nice represention of both parents. The romulan provides immense trich coverage and beefiness and the Urkle added a nice "purp" flavor and sedative wallop. This one, more than once, had me forget I packed a second bowl. I would go to pack a new one and forgot I left the previous one ready and waiting(just a small one ripper out of a 1.5 ft roor). And mind you I'm not the smoker I was at one point but I'm not slouch either. Oh and it took a while to pin point the flavor as I felt I had tasted it before, and on the very last bowl of her I got it...berry flavored fruit by the foot, extra sweet and sugary.
Under the scope: about** 75-80% cloudy, 5-10% clear, 5-10% amber

OGRE-Chocolate hashy deliciousness. Really kudos Nomaad everything I tried was more flavorful than 90% of club weed. Anyways this one was a nice balanced sativa indica mix. Made me a bit ADD, but the attention that was given was super focused. Like if you start cleaning your room, but ending pulling out all your furniture to dust behind it. These buds were great visually and really had a nice golf ball appearance. This one was the one which made menremember to write down my smoke report and bust out the microscope. Oh and this was Paul's favorite btw.
Unde the scope: **about 85% cloudy, 10% clear, 5% amber

I have to say this was hands down not only some of the best outdoor I've had, but just some of the BEST I had. We are lucky to have a great growing environment here in Cali, but few put in the proper educated effort the Nomaad does. I really wish you the best not only in this years' outdoor, but in life. For those of you not lucky enough to actually know Nomaad I can attest that he's one of the most generous, humble, passionate, driven, and intelligent persons you'll ever meet. People taking notes have come to the right spot.

Much respect and I only just a little while ago finished the last of the blue dream, you really helped out a starving student more than you know.

UnknownProphet

***sorry if there's multitudes of spelling and grammar errors, all I have is my iPhone for internet so this took about an hour an a half to write and I don't feel like writing much more.
 

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