News and current events

[St. Phatty]

Reading responses to this thread I get the feeling that some folks are relying on the belief in technology to save us while 'Mother Nature' will just quietly laugh at our hubris as she does her thing.

Technology Worship - the primary religion in much of the US.

definitely in Silicon Valley.

 

[Gry]

When I was a kid, I felt like I lived in a society which encouraged us all to do better.

 

[Teddybrae]

I tell people ... not down their throat but whenever the subject comes up ... that Wisdom and Understanding come from Earth. (Your Silver Beings help us St Phatty ... they're not somewhere in space.)

But few listen, preferring instead to imagine some amazing mechanistic scientific future or cosmic assistance from the Pleiades .

Avoidant All ...

The Meek shall inherit Earth.

Reading responses to this thread I get the feeling that some folks are relying on the belief in technology to save us while 'Mother Nature' will just quietly laugh at our hubris as she does her thing.

 

[xavier7995]

Reading responses to this thread I get the feeling that some folks are relying on the belief in technology to save us while 'Mother Nature' will just quietly laugh at our hubris as she does her thing.

Tbh, i am just cynical and angry.

But lol, my thread got weird. So this was meant to be an alternative to that infowars thread off made up gloom and doom to sell vitamins. I am going to roll with technology being our saviour from our destruction of the earth. Like alcohol, both the cause of and solution to all lifes problems. Considering that a pretty big chunk of the population doesnt believe in global warming or environmental issues in general, trying to get people as a whole to change course is going to be futile. By the time it kills a bunch of people, thus convincing them, its to late to change course. That leaves technology to solve it, either mitigating current and past damage so we can stay here, or finding a way to support life elsewhere. Im game to pack my shit and see what the road holds.

Whats your take man? What do you think needs to occur?

 

[St. Phatty]

Whats your take man? What do you think needs to occur?

Nationwide referendum's on every county ballot

to de-fund 50%.

Same for the states.

Same for the faux US gov.

America's form of government is un-affordable Judeo-Fascist Anarchy.


Affordable Anarchy is better than un-affordable Anarchy.


Until the US comes clean about 9-11, it's just the nsUSSA -
not-so-united Shit-hole States of America.


+ give China & Russia the "Keys to the Castle". (to keep the US in line when it tries to destroy yet another nation, acting as Israel's bully & bitch.)


Though, actually, they already have them (the keys).


+ a complete re-boot on American health care & biotech industries.


Yes, it's that broken.

As goes Boeing, so goes the "nation".

And Boeing decided that airplane safety was secondary - 20 years ago.

 

[Mr D]

When I was a kid, I felt like I lived in a society which encouraged us all to do better.

It did until equality of outcome became a thing, followed by the victim mentality.

Now everyone is entitled...

If only we could take all that money from rich people and give it liberals in government, then all of our problems will be solved. Oh yeah...they also need money to fix the climate.

Dear god I'm living in the fuckin twilight zone.

 

[Phaeton]

What to do, what to do?

In my youth I engaged in eco terrorism, kinda like kill for peace. I would blow up polluting structures, making the mess worse in hope that folks would get tired of it.
Not very functional at all, nobody really cared, especially the oil companies.
I tried biking to work from my dry cabin, hoping to set a good example. Drivers not liking to share the road cared but nobody else did.

Now I watch a lot of TV and read books, not my problem anymore.
Caring only makes me angry. Then I do stupid shit. I am too old for that.

 

[moose eater]

I try to get truly angry only about the local things I have a snowball's chance of controlling any more, Phaeton.

Lake trout fishing, ganja, hash, and music make things a bit more tolerable.

I figure I've only got a couple years or so left, so I patiently look forward to seeing some of the more reachable, corrupt bastages in the local bar or restaurant one day, so I can deliver instant karma with a smile on my face.

But seriously, save the hard-core angst, anger, and rage for the folks you can actually take hold of, if only to let them know there's some things in this cause-and-effect life that their attorney filing a brief, or performing a leveraged buy-out, can't save them from.

Those are the images that leave a smile on my face. That, and hanging with my younger son in the bush, catching giant lake trout, eating good, and having camp fires that permit time to stare into the glow of coals, and think about the cleansing capacity therein.

Talked to a friend in the Yukon Territory I'll be seeing soon. They have no fires down his way, but apparently the fires are numerous and large enough on our side of the line that they have smoke from the fires in Dawson City and Alaska.

 

[Lrus007]

how about some old news we do not hear about now.
like fukushima still leaking water and fumes.
that effects all of us. but not much news on it.
one earthquake and all there dirty water goes into ocean.
nearly a thousand storage tanks are holding a staggering
1.1 million tons of water. rusting in the sun. at a rate of
170 tons of dirty water a day added. plus the leaks.
just thought i would bring that up.

 

[moose eater]

Re. Fukushima; measurable increase in Cesium35 in waters off Alaska's Coast.

Just remember; salmon is healthy food.

 

[Guest]

What does it matter, it's the end of civilization as we know it, with the way things are going it might be all for the best or at least break it up in to 3 states politically as we limp towards the finish line.

Boo frickin hoo. Lets just let people who actually are net tax payers vote and are legal citizens. Including the folks who come here to escape shit hole countries and become part of the US dream. Not leaches and criminals. If your on welfare or disability under 50 you dont get to vote yourself the rights to the tax money. FUCK LAZY LOW LIFES that want it all for free.

 

[St. Phatty]

how about some old news we do not hear about now.
like fukushima still leaking water and fumes.
that effects all of us. but not much news on it.
one earthquake and all there dirty water goes into ocean.
nearly a thousand storage tanks are holding a staggering
1.1 million tons of water. rusting in the sun. at a rate of
170 tons of dirty water a day added. plus the leaks.
just thought i would bring that up.

I think the US & Japanese governments avoid the subject -

because if they admitted the full extent of the damage, the economy might slow down a bunch.

 

[Gry]

We live what we have learned. I am disgusted listening to white males spew a doctrine that was bullshit from the inception. Absent anything akin to integrity.

 

[armedoldhippy]

We live what we have learned. I am disgusted listening to white males spew a doctrine that was bullshit from the inception. Absent anything akin to integrity.

"you may not vote on any more threads today" dammit! get you later...

 

[armedoldhippy]

Boo frickin hoo. Lets just let people who actually are net tax payers vote and are legal citizens. Including the folks who come here to escape shit hole countries and become part of the US dream. Not leaches and criminals. If your on welfare or disability under 50 you dont get to vote yourself the rights to the tax money. FUCK LAZY LOW LIFES that want it all for free.

not enough folks on disability or welfare to vote themselves free anything. they might vote FOR those things, but it is the rest of us that vote that decide things. why would being disabled disqualify a citizen from voting? i call BULLSHIT!

 

[GMT]

The exclusion of a part if your society from the democratic process is only the starting point that will see your part in that process removed later on.

 

[armedoldhippy]

The exclusion of a part if your society from the democratic process is only the starting point that will see your part in that process removed later on.

"and then they came for me, but there was no one left to stand up for me..." anyone besides me remember the rest of this quote? anybody?

 

[GMT]

Yes but not off by heart. Must have been an unconscious influence on my post though.

 

[moose eater]

There were apparently several different versions of that poem, hippie.

The more common version, from the 1950s, I believe before they put "In God We Trust' on U.S. currency, read as:

First they came for the socialists,
and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—
and there was no one left to speak for me.


*(and I'm also already out of rep again...)

I like to smile on assertions such as those above, recalling that in the eyes of the King, the Sons of Liberty were ALL criminals, guilty of treason against their King, and guilty of tax evasion, subversion, blocking infrastructure (a 'new crime being put into place across the Country after Standing Rock, making it illegal to protest NEAR 'infrastructure,' which encompasses a broad range of definitions, and initially passed in Louisiana; you know, the home of quality justice), theft of the King's weapons from his arsenal (and we all know that theft involving government weaponry is pretty serious chit), and a host of other offenses.

Oh yeah, and the fact that we're discussing this on a marijuana cultivation site, where quite a number of us have likely engaged in the Black Market, not paid taxes on our wares, some of us own firearms despite smoking weed or doing other forbidden fruits, most have jay-walked at some time, and most have violated the speed limit. etc.

Oh, when I was 8 y.o. I stole a packet of Fizzies (remember Fizzies?) and got caught, too. A humiliating experience.

So..... I'm feeling fairly 'criminal' myself this morning...

 

[moose eater]

So.... I guess that's a current event; the new laws sweeping the Country from state to state, at federal request, and in apparent violation of the 1st Amendment's rights to assemble and protest (you know, the ones that GW began putting the nails to when he introduced his "Free Speech Zones", miles from nowhere, <apologies to Cat Stevens>, and behind cyclone fencing).

As with the 'free speech zones,' the newest set of tyrannical laws geared toward suppression, are presented as mere regulation of speech, but defined broadly and vaguely enough as to potentially be unconstitutional straight out of the gate, if you can find a straight court to hear it, and afford a good team of attorneys.

"You may not protest NEAR 'infrastructure." It's a felony, btw.

Is a phone booth considered 'infrastructure'? (*Does anyone still have phone booths?)

Overhead cross-walks?

Bus Stops??