dope_roor
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a bit OT but have you witnessed the oxygen extraction or is this something the vendor is claiming?
NAIL Choice for Oil/Wax - Glass or Titanium?
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a bit OT but have you witnessed the oxygen extraction or is this something the vendor is claiming?
as far as I know there are 3 people in Cali doing liquid oxygen extraction.
Yes, Ive seen it and it's a closed pressurized system.
Industrial food grade stainless steel system.
The wax is the smoothest smoke I've ever had. especially when vaped on a nail.
Big taste difference from butane as there is no chemical taste or aftertaste to the hit.
QTS
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google gives more than 10000 results for nerve illness in corelation with titanium
and less than 10 results for nerve illness in corlation with bs-glass
enjoy your health
So are you just searching and noting the result count, or actually looking @ articles to evaluate information? How did the Ti get in the peoples system, powder inhilation, toxicity from industrial processes? How about posting a link to something showing toxicity to vapors from titanium being heated. Heavy metal toxicity as a result from breathing in vapors of melting glass is a very real thing.
Edit: Found a MSDS on Titanium and Ti alloy that states this:
The entire pdf can be found here: http://titanium.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Material-Safety-Data-Sheet.pdf
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stevefrench
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ti pad and a butane torch
9Lives8Left
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For my money it is Ti nails/pads and butane torches.
google gives more than 10000 results for nerve illness in corelation with titanium
and less than 10 results for nerve illness in corlation with bs-glass
enjoy your health
Hey brother...leave the para...
You are right, Ti is not inert with human body.
It was observed on very sensitive people that Ti can cause problems when used for dental protesis or jewelry. Both are long and continuous time exposure to heat, saliva or sweat acids etc...
Since you are not wearing or eating the pad, you shouldn't have any problem...
Also Ti oxids are not inert but they melt at over 2000°c so it's very low risk to inhale them. And it's only a very thin layer you can barely clean at hand...
QTS
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Yes I am, good sir. Good ta see ya, how've you been?
its not about paranoia, i couldnt care less what other ppl do with their health, and my statements arent for the wannabe in crowd
let me remind you, 30 years ago .. asbestos was the shit, today we know it better
so if ppl talk about meds (ganja) its pretty diabolic to leave one factor open that could (potentially) be hazardous
everything i wrote is ment for ppl to start thinking about it, every period has its "fashion" victims ... one leader with a hord of sheeps
tho a bit of common sense should be enough, but thread participators want even to prechew all infos for them ... so much about nerve illness in corelation with titanium
all i can say, you taste titanium as you taste copper or steel, and im saying this bc i had a titanium pipe, and if ppl like to inhale that metal its their destiny to do so, no matter what i say or write ... history repeats itself, see you in 20 - 30 years again with some infos .. and i will be there to tell everybody "i told you so"
damn, even extraction methods are questioned here, whats more healty bho or co2 or oxygen or whatever, sorry i just dont understand this way of thinking
well anyway, its here for everybody to read, and im out of this thread, bc its going towards an endless loop .. and we can argue about it till the end of days without any proper conclusion...
good night, good fight
QTS
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its not about paranoia, i couldnt care less what other ppl do with their health, and my statements arent for the wannabe in crowd
let me remind you, 30 years ago .. asbestos was the shit, today we know it better
so if ppl talk about meds (ganja) its pretty diabolic to leave one factor open that could (potentially) be hazardous
everything i wrote is ment for ppl to start thinking about it, every period has its "fashion" victims ... one leader with a hord of sheeps
tho a bit of common sense should be enough, but thread participators want even to prechew all infos for them ... so much about nerve illness in corelation with titanium
all i can say, you taste titanium as you taste copper or steel, and im saying this bc i had a titanium pipe, and if ppl like to inhale that metal its their destiny to do so, no matter what i say or write ... history repeats itself, see you in 20 - 30 years again with some infos .. and i will be there to tell everybody "i told you so"
damn, even extraction methods are questioned here, whats more healty bho or co2 or oxygen or whatever, sorry i just dont understand this way of thinking
well anyway, its here for everybody to read, and im out of this thread, bc its going towards an endless loop .. and we can argue about it till the end of days without any proper conclusion...
good night, good fight
Hey Ai Ze, how are you doing this fine day?!
I find your words "my statements arent for the wannabe in crowd" and "every period has its "fashion" victims ... one leader with a hord of sheeps" to be a bit insulting, and I imagine others reading them might as well. I personally have been vaping off Ti for around 6 years (thanks again HMK), but beforehand I researched in to what it was and why it was a good choice. Don't just assume people are ignorant because you think you know it all.
I don't know if you saw my posts back there, but I even linked to a Material Safety Data Sheet that pretty much puts Titanium in the clear for this particular use, and other information can be easily found. I ask again, rather than making unfounded statements about things you're saying you know, why don't you post up some sources? Give us a few references about this "titanium nerve illness" that's seemingly as rampant as lung diseases and cancers brought on by asbestos, so that we can all be privy to the information. I have searched, and would post links to things I found about it, but there doesn't seem to be anything there.
https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=titanium nerve illness
I am glad this thread got posted though, as again, I've been concerned with the safety of heating up glass to a red hot point then breathing vapors off semi-molten boro. Ask most any glassblower why they have ventilation, they'll tell you it's so they don't poison themselves with heavy metal toxicity and silicosis.
blood-shot-red
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There is a much more likely explanation for differences in taste. Titanium, Copper, etc. are all very good catalysts. So the combustion reaction and therefore its products differ with different materials. It is very unlikely that Ti is severed from the Nail in relevant amounts.
In Addition to that, copper and aluminium have way lower melting/boiling Points than Titanium. Also you suck on a copperpipe(e.g.), where saliva could react and get copper salts in your sytem. Using a Nail there are no elektrolytes, so you really can't compare a (copper)pipe to an oil dome.
Concerning the glass blowers ventialtion systems. They are usually working with torches, which leave great heat and waste gases. Maybe they are trying not to suffocate or melt instead of protecting themselves from hazardous traces in the glass.
no, its the hazardous metals and other compounds released by the glass as you melt it that are the most important things to remove.
i agree
you sure have some stats on that, any numbers, any study ? .. ah ok not, just your opinion, thought so ...
and just fyi , heating a ti pad is also a combustion reaction
and very intresting that you will taste different (metal) tastes with a wooden mouth piece ...
so much about salvia and electrolytes ... lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium
or maybe that :
lighters wont reach that temps, but torches sure will
this one is nice too
fyi info, human body has 20mg/kg si
this thread amuses me, becomes better with every post ... lol ... just hillarious !
keep em comin gurlz
you have no data, your posts are boring.
