Mycorrhizae and/or Beneficial Bacteria in Coco?

[Surfr]

I guess the question is, does it really help? A lot of people are saying great white, but has anyone on here used it with good results? Great thread btw... I love when my questions are answered before I ask them.

I watered all my vegging plants last night with a mixture of Great White and I shit you not, this morning they had almost 2" of new growth..

 

[FreeMan]

I couldn't be certain of it's performance in flower, but for mothers or long veg plants there are definitely benefits. Like I said before, the mother I inoculated was virtually indestructible.

Keep us posted Surfr, let us know how you get on.

 

[Strapped]

That's good to know Surfr and Freeman Thanks for the input. Now I'm wondering how long the benefits last per application in coco as opposed to soil. Do you think the BB flushes as easy as salts do?

 

[UfoDisclosure]

I know this topic is a little bit old but no one managed to answer the question.

Are fungies and beneficial bacteria useful with strictly mineral nutrients (House and Garden, Hesi, Metrop ect...) ?
Some say yes, some say no.
To me, mineral ferts = microbiological life killed. Enzymes use only, instead.

But then, why GHE sells a bio-filter and says it can be used for hydroponics?
(A bio-filter is plugged to the water-pump, you put fungies in that filter and they reproduce. When you use the pump, they attack the nasty microbes and leave your roots white and healthy)

(sorry for my bad english)

I should add that I'm planning to use a non-recirculating hydro system, RO filtered with no air-bubler in the reservoir (avoiding pH shifts)

And if I use this bio-filter or put some fungies in the root zone before transplanting, I will have to use carbohydrates to feed them. But these sugars rot when left in a anaerobic environment.

Can someone reply, not just to my case but for mineral hydroponics in general, aerobic and anaerobic.

Thanks. Greetings from somewhere in Europe.

 

[Granger2]

knna,
You're going to have to back up some of your assertions with links to research. Until then I'm going to say that you are wrong about much of what you said.

Coco and beneficials work well together. I would use a good inoculant like Plant Success, and brew EWC ACT every 7 -14 days. Your plants will benefit. Good luck. -granger

 

[UfoDisclosure]

OK, Grnger, before that asserting, look at what freggle did.

 

[Granger2]

freggie?

 

[Gelado`]

I use beneficials in coco with organics--agricultural-grade fertilizer that comes preinnoculated with beneficials and works beautifully when mixed in with coco. It is loaded with goodies that provide great nutrition (fish meal, bone meal, kelp, oyster shell meal, etc).

 

[Johnny Redthumb]

coco is already naturally innoculated with mycorrhizae and trichoderma. IMO real fresh compost teas work the best, but ive had good results using root shield, etc. most myco supplement products though are over priced.

also, which botanicare coco are you using? bagged or brick?

 

[UfoDisclosure]

COGR from canna, it's coco with slightly better oxygen uptake, a more aerated subtrate.

 

[Granger2]

I've never seen any info about coco being naturally inoculated with Mycos. Trichoderma - yes. -granger

 

[UfoDisclosure]

Granger : the grower I was talikng about is Freggle
Have a look
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=180957
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=209124

Greetings from Europe

 

[LyryC]

coco is already naturally innoculated with mycorrhizae and trichoderma. IMO real fresh compost teas work the best, but ive had good results using root shield, etc. most myco supplement products though are over priced.

also, which botanicare coco are you using? bagged or brick?

Maybe the coco you purchase is inoculated - or coco you made - but it is definitely NOT common for coco to be inoculated with bennies.

That shit would be half the selling point - promix.

Please elaborate with some sources for the statement

 

[Gelado`]

My coco is buffered and has low EC, but it definitely doesn't come with bennies. The garden center hooks me up with bioorganic fert for agriculture (commercial grade stuff) that is cheap and loaded with GREAT stuff.

 

[Granger2]

UFO,
Yeah that's a nice crop, but I don't read, speak, or understand German. What info are you trying to convey? -granger

 

[UfoDisclosure]

I asked Canna themselves about DTW in coco and Cogr, and they told me that what I've been taught was right, that is to say that DTW is not meant for organics, that it's the complete opposite of a recirculating normal hydro system, that stable pH and the wash of medium by the run off and the very aerated medium, all this balances the lack of oxygenation of the solution.
They recommend a tank-size designed for a whole week, without bubbler as I said previously.

So if you want to use fungies, carbs ect... That's your choice, but professionals don't recommend it. Neither do Freggle

 

[sureshot66]

google chrome will translate it, i added a german accent in my head, adds a nice flavor to it

 

[Lesterburnum]

Canna states on the side of their bags that they add Mychos.

 

[Hempsmoke]

also Plagron cocos premium comes with mycos OR trychoderma, im not sure which one cause i dont have a bag in reach, but it says that on the back side of the bag

 

[Granger2]

I inoculate with bacteria, mycos, trichoderma, to be sure. I also give them EWC ACT every week to 10 days. That way I know. It's not worth guessing. The cost/benefit is cheap. If you increase production by a 1/4 oz, you've more than paid for a large container of even the expensive inoculant products. Good luck. -granger