"Mr extractor" discussion
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waywardwolf
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It certainly wasn't one of my "Higher Moments". I have asked for a mod to remove the personal attack on G.O.
I will be more responsible in the future. Peace WW
waywardwolf
Member
I did, because I like the guy....
So now what?
Lol!....Hey I like you too krunchbubble.
youareaniceguy
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Good guy. Everybody has their moments. Shows good character to recognize and admit these things.
Beware the safety culture, or you'll find yourself in a cinderblock, climate-uncontrolled, inert-atmosphere, blast-shuttered room 100 yards from any other structure, while wearing your Tyvek Elvis suit, rubber shoes, apron, and arm-length gloves, a full face shield, and respirator.
I'm totally cool with people giving their opinions about what other people are saying. That's what this thread is and that's how I entered it. Fire away, let the hating continue. With CC gone, I expected nothing less than the fire to come down on me - how dare anyone disagree with GW. That was my point - the situation looked kind of tribal, with CC not of the tribe.
I didn't say that static isn't a concern in some industries. I'm saying, where's the butane fires sparked by static while using an extraction device such as this one?
There is no misconception from me or him that CC can and will be sued for damages that occur, with potential criminal liability as well.
I'm totally cool with people giving their opinions about what other people are saying. That's what this thread is and that's how I entered it. Fire away, let the hating continue. With CC gone, I expected nothing less than the fire to come down on me - how dare anyone disagree with GW. That was my point - the situation looked kind of tribal, with CC not of the tribe.
Freezers are famous for exploding from butane vapor. The amount of butane purged while purging air from this device isn't even enough to make a freezer explode.
I didn't say that static isn't a concern in some industries. I'm saying, where's the butane fires sparked by static while using an extraction device such as this one?
Your take is the industrial and engineering view, while I see this product in a trailer or apartment, preventing instead of causing problems. I wouldn't even expect electrical certification from a vaporizer, so I don't expect any from this product - that's a yes I'm not concerned. Caveat emptor as you said.
There is no misconception from me or him that CC can and will be sued for damages that occur, with potential criminal liability as well.
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If nothing else many will see this thread if they google search "Mr. extractor"
And then they can make an educated choice to purchase the $6,500+ system.
"Mr extractor" discussion - Cannabis Concentrates - International ...
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International Cannagraphic
Jan 2, 2015 - 15 posts - 8 authors
"Mr extractor" discussion Cannabis Concentrates forum at International Cannagraphic Magazine.
Perhaps there will be some other new authors giving their expierences....
If nothing else many will see this thread if they google search "Mr. extractor"
And then they can make an educated choice to purchase the $6,500+ system.
We come up on page one of the google search...
"Mr extractor" discussion - Cannabis Concentrates - International ...
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t...
International Cannagraphic
Jan 2, 2015 - 15 posts - 8 authors
"Mr extractor" discussion Cannabis Concentrates forum at International Cannagraphic Magazine.
Perhaps there will be some other new authors giving their expierences....
If nothing else many will see this thread if they google search "Mr. extractor"
And then they can make an educated choice to purchase the $6,500+ system.
Good point. Should help them lose some future potential customers.
GratefulOne
Member
I fully support small scale and Mom and Pop operations. It does not take much effort or cost to be NFPA compliant. There is no reason not to do it when you see how simple it really is. It is silly for people to paint NFPA as something that is not correct or that should be ignored. NFPA spends careers studying this stuff. The NFPA did not just make up these standards. They came from years of study. Every industry in the US and Canada is required to follow these standards and the extractors will have to as well.
Butane is classified as a Class 1 Division 1 danger. That is the highest rating there is for fire potential. Opening a closed loop system, esp one that was not vacuumed or purged, will create a flammable amounts of fumes. The issue is not will it explode, it may but unlikely. The issue is will it easily catch fire. A highly flammable situation is prime for a static start. Static is proven as a common and easy to create ignition source.
I am all for people blowing/burning themselves up if it does not endanger others or destroy property of others. I don't think we should get in the way of natural selection. Doing any butane extraction in an apartment is crazy and should be stopped. I would not feel comfortable with some 19 year old idiot using the safest cls in an apartment next to me. It does not matter if he is tons safer than open blasting, he is still taking real and serious risks with other people’s lives. The requirement is to not endanger others not to be safer than open blasting.
I didn't mean to imply that you or CC were simple minded and unaware of the liability.
I continue to repeat that unless he has the insurance or where with all to cover the damages, the damaged customer will be the one left holding the bag.
I'm surprised at your apparent age, that you haven't already figured out life time warranties by fly by night companies with inadequate resources.
You continue to ignore the ANSI/ASME issue as well, so may I ask what laws you do think are important.
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I can see how she may have been turned off being caught in the middle and am sorry she suffered through it.
Not something someone dutifully doing as instructed by their employer, and believing in what they were doing, deserved.
Looks are something more important to a woman that us men, whom near as I can tell are mostly plain to ugly anyway.
Beauty is definitely in the beholder, and from my perspective, Michelle was never ugly and clearly has put effort into maintaining herself, or she wouldn't look as good as she does in a form fitting black dress.
Comparing her to a younger woman is like comparing a fine vintage wine to a delightful recent harvest, that has yet to improve with age.
Trust this old guy when I tell you that women's personalities improve as their stickers get broken off and they get more rounded, and they usually grow more tolerant of male stumblebums, but can react unpredictably under personal attack, especially for their looks, over which they have less control of than their actions.
Shall we just cut to the chase?
Due to the ongoing controversy surrounding liquid petroleum gases, especially static electricity, I just joined NFPA for $165 and ordered NFPA 77 at $49, so ya'll can read chapters 8.2.4 Antistatic Conductive Clothing, as well as the rest of the standard on antistatic measures.
I also ordered 59A a $49, Production, Storage, and Handling of Liquid Petroleum gas, so that you can see that 10.8.1 specifically states that, "Electrical grounding and bonding shall be provided."
I'm told the PDF's will be available tomorrow and I will share.
I didn't order 58 which states the tank will have a pressure relief valve. Anyone need that proved to them?
Due to the ongoing controversy surrounding liquid petroleum gases, especially static electricity, I just joined NFPA for $165 and ordered NFPA 77 at $49, so ya'll can read chapters 8.2.4 Antistatic Conductive Clothing, as well as the rest of the standard on antistatic measures.
I also ordered 59A a $49, Production, Storage, and Handling of Liquid Petroleum gas, so that you can see that 10.8.1 specifically states that, "Electrical grounding and bonding shall be provided."
I'm told the PDF's will be available tomorrow and I will share.
I didn't order 58 which states the tank will have a pressure relief valve. Anyone need that proved to them?
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thanks Gray Wolf!!
You're welcome brother, and for those unaware, NFPA regs and recommendations are not dry chapter and verse do this and that.
They are written to educate the reader, and have taken the time to explain where they are coming from and why the regulation or recommendation is the way it is, before telling you the way it "shall" be.
They are also under constant revision by professionals, to incorporate new needs and findings, so consider the possibility that those involved may have known from direct practical experience and the statistics they accumulated, precisely what they are talking about.
Once again thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
Would you like to read it for free at http://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-standards/free-access
or would you like for me to spend another $49 and post it here?
GratefulOne
Member
Oh WOW!
Back in my day the NFPA would not let you see anything for at least $50. Very nice and will help small guys a ton.
Back in my day the NFPA would not let you see anything for at least $50. Very nice and will help small guys a ton.
Yeah, the free site is where I've been reading their standards, but you can't copy from there, or I would have cut and pasted a long time ago.
The link gives you free access to all of their standards by just registering, and it isn't necessary to join.
I just now paid a year's membership for Skunk Pharm Research, as repayment for providing such a handy service.
You can buy their standards for about $49 apiece, in book or PDF format, and there is a bunch of them, so the on line access to them all, is handy for us'n poor folks.
I would prefer you pay $49 for my convenience.
Thank you for the generous offer and options.
