medical license success!!!!!!!

[mr noodles]

Yep, ya got to renew every year. But If ya have a legite problem than it shouldn't be a problem to renew. Right a letter to the college of physicians about this man, see what they say.

I say ya move to Ontario man, The more grower's, the better (I was gonna say the more med-patients the better, but that sounds bad..LOL)

Keep up the good fight brother, Wish ya all the best!!!

Danny

they wont reply or hang the phone on you in a very rude way. they will call you a drug addict .

the thing is even if legitimate at 100 % the college wont give a shit about you .

marc 'boris' saint maurice wich is our # 1 med activist is saying that a lot of doc dont renew no matter what your situation because of 'pressure ' from the college .even with the use of the charter of right you will get 1 year but no renewal

thats a shitty situation because you are doom forever with the local police that know for sure that you grew weed .

moving in ontario ? i have a house, a whole life , family and all ... moving because of le college des medecins ? these fuckers should be put in their place because im a canadian citizen and not a citizen from the country of quebec........they have to comply to canadian law not me to flee a province.

thats why we have to figth

and how long before ontario doc start to act like the one in qc ?

 

[headband 707]

I totally agree with DMT in everything he said. Still it's hard when your the sick one and your running around looking for help and the truth is I have never meet any Dr.'s where I am, that agree with bud. The next thing is that when ppl do find Dr.'s that help they are too afraid to give thier names saying he is only doing it for me etc. Here they treat it like your asking them to sell their licence to practise. There should be a list for ppl to go without all this crap that we have to put up with. I just had a prominate Phys tell me that she thinks smoking pot causes lung cancer. Sick ppl shouldn't have to keep fighting with such uneducated Dr.'s. peace out Headband707

 

[mr noodles]

can we believe that many states in the usa are way ahead of us in term of med mj ...

if i was telling you this at overgrow in 2003 you would have called me a mental case ...

on paper the canadian med program is amazing, in reality it face a serious challenge !

 

[dmt]

the reason why i posted this thread is the fact everyone has made:THERE IS NO RESOURCE FOR PEOPLE IN NEED. everyone is left to there own devices. the pot at all the dispensaries where i live is pretty horrible for 7.50-12.50 a g.

FACT: all the peoiple ive helped so far all believed they couldnt get their hcmm card. so that was their reality:no card. after 1-5 visits with me, they built up enough courage to TELL their docs, NOT ASK, and they all were successful this is the key. our doctors have stone age doctrine when it comes to the human body. and medicine.

1 was montreal, 2 in winnipeg and the rest through out bc. we live in a bizzare world with upside down laws every where. its too bad the noodles is facing this opposition. i have 1 place to tell you for the 4th time CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. no doctor wants to go there, face media attention and exploitation because they thought a plant was more detrimental then beneficial to their patients, when all the science proves in favor for the patient and plant.

this is not easy, what it is is possible, and that is all that matters. if in 1 year the canadian human rights commission faced lets say 10 med pot cases with media coverage, no doc would refuse anyone, you have the power, not the docs, government or "authority figures". they dont know anything about anything when it comes to you and your body and your right to natural remedy. to this day, everyone who sees my card is in disbelief, why, becuase no one knows they can access it. and they all have a legitimate reason to have one? good luck to all.

ps. the harder the battle, the sweeter the victory, d

 

[headband 707]

How Do I Apply for Medical Marijuana in Canada? permalink

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In July 2001, Her Excellency the Governor General in Council, on the recommendation of the Minister of Health, pursuant to subsection 55(1) of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, hereby makes the annexed Marihuana Medical Access Regulations

To begin with, you will need to obtain the forms required to apply for access to medical marijuana. You can get the forms online at

(link) in .pdf format, and print them, or you can call the Office of Cannabis Medical Access (OCMA) at 1-866-337-7705 and ask them to mail you the forms (it's free!).

There are two types of applications:

(1) Authorization to possess marijuana. Requires one form to be filled out by the applicant, and one form by their doctor.

(2) Authorization to grow your own marijuana, or to have someone else grow it for you. This will be a little bit more work, requiring a few more forms.

Your doctor will have to recommend a daily dosage of marijuana. A form of administration. The duration is 12 months unless otherwise specified.

Application conditions:

There are three categories of medical conditions which are eligible for medical marijuana. Category three is quite general however, and almost every condition could be classified there.

* There is a section to fill out what symptoms you suffer from, and what other treatments you have tried. I would recommend extensively researching the side effects and downsides of all the popular treatments, and claim to suffer from all of them.

* There is a section to choose whether you will grow your own, or designate another person to grow for you. If you will not be growing, you will need to provide the address of the person who will, whether they own the property, and if the marijuana will be stored at that location. If the property is rented, the owners permission will be required, and a form is provided for that purpose as well.

* You will also need to disclose whether the marijuana will be grown indoors, outdoors, or a combination.

* If there will be any marijuana grown outdoors, you must indicate that the property is not adjacent to any schools, play grounds, day cares, or other places frequented by persons under the age of 18.

* You must confirm that the marijuana will be stored indoors, and you must provide details about security of the production site.

* One of the last steps will be to inform the local authorities that you have obtained a license to either possess and/or grow marijuana for medical purposes.

Formulas for maximum possession / production:

Possession:
For personal possession, once you have been granted a license, the formula for maximum possession is as follows: A * 30

Where;
A = the maximum daily dosage as prescribed in your application.
(So basically, you can carry up to 30 days worth of your prescribed supply at once)

Production:
For production, plant numbers are calculated based on whether the plants will be grown fully indoors, fully outdoors, or a combination.

For production fully indoors, the maximum allowed number of plants is calculated as follows: D = [(A × 365) ÷ (B × 3C)] × 1.2

Where;
D is the maximum number of plants,
A is the maximum daily dosage as prescribed in your application,
B is equal to 30 grams, the expected yield per plant, and
C is a constant 1, representing the number of possible crops per year).

So for example, if your prescription is for (5 grams daily, multiply by 365) to get 1825 grams per year. This will be divided by (30 grams times 3 crops, which is 90) so 1825 divided by 90 equals 20, which is finally multiplied by 1.2, to equal 24.

So a prescription of 5 grams daily will mean you can grow 24 plants at once.

For production fully outside, the maximum number of plants is calculated as follows:

D = [(A × 365) ÷ (B × C)] × 1.3

(so taking into account 1 crop per year, instead of 3, you are allowed 3 times more plants. The multiplier changes from 1.2 to 1.3, so thats a few more plants for margin of error, being outside.

And for a indoor/outdoor production combination, the formula is:

For the indoor period, D = [(A × 182.5) ÷ (B × 2C)] × 1.2
For the outdoor period, D = [(A × 182.5) ÷ (B × C)] × 1.3

Storage:
And finally, for storage of dried marijuana at a production site, the following formulas apply:

E = D × B × 1.5

Where;
E = the maximum amount of dried marijuana,
D is the maximum number of allowed plants, and
B is equal to 30 grams.
In other words, you are allowed to store your 1.5 times your crop's yield.

Assuming a prescription of 5 grams daily (the maximum amount without filling out an extra section declaring that your doctors believe the benefits will outway the harm), the allowed numbers of plants are quite generous.

 

[gingerninja]

Wow, well done headband. Big ups for cc'ing that info over to this thread.

 

[Dr Dog]

That is some good info

But when you get your card and permit, it is already figured out for you

Says so right on the permits at my location, how many live plants, and how much dried I can have

which incidentally is about 20 lbs..

 

[mr noodles]

That is some good info

But when you get your card and permit, it is already figured out for you

Says so right on the permits at my location, how many live plants, and how much dried I can have

which incidentally is about 20 lbs..

what is the average of plant a person can have for arthritis + fibromyalgia + psoriasis said to be directly linked to my arthritis + asthma + bowel problem + other shit ....

im working fucking hard now to get my paper filled ...i think you know by now .

 

[dmt]

noodles, you have to discuss with your doc what amount you need to take and he signs. if it is more then 3 grams dried a day, health canada will resend the amount back to your doc to double check you didnt forge the amount, so if you do need 4-30 grams a day, be aware it will take up to twice as long to get your card due to this extra secutiry measures. the amount is what you tell the doc you need.

please remember:if you have all your papers signed, make photo copies to keep at your location and on your person. technically you can grow and posess the day your doc signs. most police want to have nothing to do with anyone whom have the correct papers and signatures. you might lose your meds and or plants, but they need a warrant which no judge will sign if you are legitimate. know your rights and privacy, and no one can inspect your grow unless there is a "safety" issue which the city by laws have a right to enter NOT POLICEMEN. police dont know anything about health canada because they cannot share any info with them, other then police double checking your papers are in order at health canada. rememberOLICE HAVE NO RIGHT TO VIEW, SEARCH OR WIEGH YOUR MEDS, IF THEY DO ITS ILLEGAL. OR ACCESS TO THE PRODUCTION SITE OR SPACE. YOU HAVE TO ALLOW THEM IN, AND YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO REFUSE. ijust went through this all last month when i move dmy addresses and upgraded my power tp 200 amps to accomidate my med space. a buiulding inspector notified the police, they showed up, i showed them my papers and lisence, they threatened me to let them in, i refused, they then said theyd get a warrant, i said "go ahead". they left never to be heard from again, haha, d

ps, headband, good lookin out, respect

 

[Dr Dog]

if it is more then 3 grams dried a day, health canada will resend the amount back to your doc to double check you didnt forge the amount, so if you do need 4-30 grams a day, be aware it will take up to twice as long to get your card due to this extra secutiry measures. the amount is what you tell the doc you need.

This is very true, they will actually try and talk your doc down in amount if it is too high.

please remember:if you have all your papers signed, make photo copies to keep at your location and on your person. technically you can grow and posess the day your doc signs. most police want to have nothing to do with anyone whom have the correct papers and signatures. you might lose your meds and or plants, but they need a warrant which no judge will sign if you are legitimate. know your rights and privacy, and no one can inspect your grow unless there is a "safety" issue which the city by laws have a right to enter NOT POLICEMEN. police dont know anything about health canada because they cannot share any info with them, other then police double checking your papers are in order at health canada. rememberOLICE HAVE NO RIGHT TO VIEW, SEARCH OR WIEGH YOUR MEDS, IF THEY DO ITS ILLEGAL. OR ACCESS TO THE PRODUCTION SITE OR SPACE. YOU HAVE TO ALLOW THEM IN, AND YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO REFUSE. ijust went through this all last month when i move dmy addresses and upgraded my power tp 200 amps to accomidate my med space. a buiulding inspector notified the police, they showed up, i showed them my papers and lisence, they threatened me to let them in, i refused, they then said theyd get a warrant, i said "go ahead". they left never to be heard from again, haha, d

ps, headband, good lookin out, respect

Actually, the FD can come in with or without a warrant. And they can bring Police in with them, so not completely correct.

With the hard-on that the FD seems to have with Grows lately( and probably justified) it is a real possibility that they will want to check you out

If that happens, just make sure that you are within your plant limits. They can charge you with cultivation if you are over one plant. That includes all plants from seedlings to anything still in its medium

 

[dmt]

i can only talk about situations i have personally been in.im not a very hearsay type of conciousness. ive been stopped, searched and police on my property, every time i told them to contact health canada if there was any issue and that i was free to leave or i told them they arent allowed in my house, my car or the detached grow space. ive never been bothered again, so its pretty true, i wouldnt lie. only when u allow police or invye police can they enter your grow space. im sure 911 calls and safety teams have extra ordinary powers then the local police or rcmp, whom ive dealt with both on a couple occasions,

remember: police break and maniupulate the law way more then any other person on the planet, stay informed, know your rights, i talked to health canada when i first got my card, they said that absolutly no one is allowed into your home/space that you dont want, especially police or government agencies whom arrive unannounced. tell them to contact hcmma or a lawyer to get back to you. i dont think anyone really understands how much power one of these cards holds, d

 

[Sleepy]

wow lots of interesting info here!!

than you for posting this!!!

you have piqued my curiosity...

...so is the following possible:

an American citizen want to grow legally...and has pain issues, etc...

can one move to Canada and apply for this?

how long would one have to wait?

how much does property cost??

how cold does it get in the warmest parts of Canada?

what are the taxes like?

hmmmmm......

 

[KharmaGirl]

Info on Moving to Canada.....just about moving....once you get thru that we can fill ya in on MMJ in Canada.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLIsh/immigrate/index.asp

 

[Sleepy]

thank you!!!

wow, there is a bit more to it than i expected!

 

[Dr Dog]

warmest parts of Canada can see temps regularly in the summer in the 90's

Warmest parts of Canada can see temps regularly in the winter in the 10's

 

[mr noodles]

here an important piece from the commission of human right on quebec , this might be useful for those who are concern about the freaking province of quebec .

sorry this is available in french only . its resume that its against the law to go against the legal medicinal marijuana .

now i will confront my doctor with a printed version of this to see where we are going together...its kinda war declaration for my doc me think . but i will not cease ! i just have to prepare myself to pound him evidence politely but firmly

its a pdf

http://www.cdpdj.qc.ca/fr/publications/docs/marihuana_droit_egalite.pdf




sleepy , if you are in the usa better move in a friendly state and get a medical card without problem if you meet the requirement . one thing.....avoid quebec because of the harsh way medical marijuana patient are treated by the medical community . its very hard to get a card in this province because doctor just refuse to fill the paper properly . the province of quebec is a great place to live but sometime its fucking stupid especially if you want to be a legal medicinal user/grower

 

[dmt]

here an important piece from the commission of human right on quebec , this might be useful for those who are concern about the freaking province of quebec .

sorry this is available in french only . its resume that its against the law to go against the legal medicinal marijuana .

now i will confront my doctor with a printed version of this to see where we are going together...its kinda war declaration for my doc me think . but i will not cease ! i just have to prepare myself to pound him evidence politely but firmly

its a pdf

http://www.cdpdj.qc.ca/fr/publications/docs/marihuana_droit_egalite.pdf




sleepy , if you are in the usa better move in a friendly state and get a medical card without problem if you meet the requirement . one thing.....avoid quebec because of the harsh way medical marijuana patient are treated by the medical community . its very hard to get a card in this province because doctor just refuse to fill the paper properly . the province of quebec is a great place to live but sometime its fucking stupid especially if you want to be a legal medicinal user/grower

hey noodles, now i feel awesome that you have a new energy to pursue this, i am very delighted with your approach and due diligence, thanks a bunch=-)

remember, telling your doc does not mean yelling or threatening. it means being confident with your head high and chest out and knowing you know what you want to use as medicine, you will achieve your goal, one way or another, and you can help others achieve theirs by fullfilling your own need, haha. peace, d

ps i love quebec haha, just in summer though

 

[Dr Dog]

Quebec is a very beautiful province and one of my favorites to visit

But I would never recommend moving there for an anglophone american, talk about a tough time..

I would suggest one of the english provinces first till you got adjusted to the culture here

 

[Black Ra1n]

Do they actually have a gram per day/aliment chart lol, sorry I can just see some civil servant checking over this chart while processing the paperwork....

We all have different tolerances to cannabis, what works for one may not work for another. Does anyone know if the prescription can be modified if it's not enough?

Hey Sleepy, OGA will smuggle you in bro.

 

[Sleepy]

hehehe

hehehe

Do they actually have a gram per day/aliment chart lol, sorry I can just see some civil servant checking over this chart while processing the paperwork....

We all have different tolerances to cannabis, what works for one may not work for another. Does anyone know if the prescription can be modified if it's not enough?

Hey Sleepy, OGA will smuggle you in bro.

hehehe...i was hoping to see something like this!!