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Med-Man Tables By Krunchbubble...
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There is a guy on here claiming MBFerts is a scammer. Can't recall his handle. Supposedly guy from MB Ferts stole some of his formulas, and MB Ferts guy doesn't know shit from shinola. Wondering if you are seeing results from their products.
prolly not; im sure there is a better place...
thanks for answering that question about nutes, krunch
Bobblehead has spoken 
Not sure, just started using it. Their stretch stop PGR worked well...
Your kidding, right?
Ive read what that guy said about kat being a scammer. I also know a really successful grower, who swears by MB Ferts...
So, whats a few dollars, TRYING shit out? I already fucked off 3 months, jacking off with the Med Man tables...
The stretch stop PGR was used at another spot and it seemed to work flawlessly. Sprayed the plants, they grew 6 more inches and STOPPED. The plants look incredible...
I also have the end of flower booster, that I will try...
I'll definitely be hanging out to see how the vitamins and hormone works.
The stretch stop is chloroquate chloride right? I'm really curious what the oil production was like on those. Always interested in seeing a pgr applied in a well managed garden. I've always kind of suspected the paclo hay had more to do with hot rooms and inexperienced growers than the pgr itself, but never put it to the test.
Not implying you shouldn't try it. Just wondering about perceived results. In regards to stopping stretch, can't you get the same result by continuing with metal halides the first 2-3 weeks of flower, rather than switching to HPS @ the flip? That's always been my understanding regarding slowing stretch.
Not sure on the cost of this stuff to lower stretch, if that is only what its going to be used for or adding extra vitamins = traditional methods of giving your plants a treat here or there lol
I wonder if someone placed lights 3 - 4 feet above plant then used this MB stuff and see if stretch stopped hahaha prob not right
Stretch is it good . or bad ??? many use it to benefit filling in a area ( Training ) others hate it due to height restrictions
Some things i do to avoid stretch or keeping everything at canopy level or workable area
First thing 3 - 4th day from switching to 12 /12 i lower my lights this indeed slows stretch phase keeping still , working temps between light and canopy you can add more light at this stage its ideal.
Secondly i super crop not only during veg but up till bud set `10 - 14 days in 12 /12
this alone stops the stretching or at least controls it
so there is many ways to skin a cat. at the cost of 0 which is a winner n my books every time.
I think many are getting confused between PGR's and vitamins
PGR's are not nutrients and again were getting way off on growing plants to breaking down plants and what makes it work
The biosynthesis of plant hormones within plant tissues is often diffuse and not always localized. Plants lack glands to produce and store hormones
So why add hormones when the plant already makes there own and even tho you applied chemical hormones there similar, But not the same and in further study plants do not need hormones only at few stages
So is it cost worthy to apply hormones IMO sure in seedling / cutting stage we use it during i wouldn't bother but that's me
Vitamins - again i think we get into the mind set that oh yea baby if vitamins are good for us then they must also be good for plants right ????
We lost the ability to make vitamins so yea we need to take it for our health
But plants on the other side make Vitamins so again could we be throwing our money out the door by adding vitamins to our plants
Just remember the stupid pill given by doctors has been a money making scheme for many years
when you start fucking around with plants clock or functions only shit will happen and in most cases not good results
Krunch your a pretty cool guy stop fucking with this stuff get back to the basics and start enjoying your grows rather then trying to be Dr franken bio chemist
Give the plants proper NPK occasional foliage feeding ,
Base your soils with silica, humix, and fulvix and let the plant do its thing
with what your doing your just setting your self up for another cluster fuck from looking at your rooms why are you so worried about stretch it appears you got the height
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I've been using the vitamin + hormone boost on 100 lights of Canna Coco for almost a year. I can defiantly tell a difference.
turbo
foliar or in the nutes? What kind of a difference do you notice? its IB3 and tria right? I have used both of those, but always used Ib3 in veg and used tria right after flower set.
BTW Ive followed your threads so I am listening extra close, your shit looks great.
The Vitamin Hormone shit is doing some interesting things, I haven't touched these tops in any way.....
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keep your eyes open for any funny business. What strength are you using the hormone?
Wonder if there may have been some residual left behind from the stretch stop.. But i think you said that was another location. i have been using mbfert vitamin concentrate at like 1, to 1.5 mil per gall an have not experienced that erratic node branching. only on 2nd run thou.
u feed at the recommended 1.8 mill per gall??? or less. hummmm
u feed at the recommended 1.8 mill per gall??? or less. hummmm
Super thrive is ib3, so maybe it's the ib3 in the vitamin and hormone doing it? I never got that when using rapid start (ib3) at one ml per. Maybe there is more in the vitamin and hormone and super thrive.
Week into flowering. Decent flower set already!
Looking very nice, after the update I'd say the top explosion is just the Tria doing what it's supposed to do. Gonna be watching close. I kind of suspect when I have used Tria in the past I have used it at too low of a dose. Looks like you might be at the sweet spot.
That's going to be a massive top.
I'm assuming that's going to connect up and be one cluster of buds. Do you believe there is a greater chance of rot/botrytis due to the inability of that one side of the main cola to breath if they grow as one. Are you going to try to bend and separate the two colas or let it go naturally?
I'm assuming that's going to connect up and be one cluster of buds. Do you believe there is a greater chance of rot/botrytis due to the inability of that one side of the main cola to breath if they grow as one. Are you going to try to bend and separate the two colas or let it go naturally?
