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Pretty much a surfactant, right? But the TEA is considered dangerous to aquatic species which I take as a sign it ain't healthy for the microbes
 

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Do you worry about sm 90 harming your microlife? I've heard it discussed as killing bugs and anything smaller

No I don't worry about that. From MM I know it's not good to add it to compost tea so I do not use it in compost tea. I also know too much in soil is a bad thing, but at the rates I use I feel safe. You know strong fertilizers affect microbe numbers in compost tea as well, but I still feed my plants. I see humic acid in thïs light.

I agree that our compost most likely has humic acid or at least should have, but how can you tell? IDK. I know my plants show improvements when I use humic acid in small amounts, so that's what I do....scrappy

Edit ....not that it means it's safe, but about every line of organic hydro store fertilizer has humic acid in their line up, in their products, or as a stand alone product, so with that much exposure I would think we would know if it hurt our soils. Maybe not IDK
 
No I don't worry about that. From MM I know it's not good to add it to compost tea so I do not use it in compost tea. I also know too much in soil is a bad thing, but at the rates I use I feel safe. You know strong fertilizers affect microbe numbers in compost tea as well, but I still feed my plants. I see humic acid in thïs light.

I agree that our compost most likely has humic acid or at least should have, but how can you tell? IDK. I know my plants show improvements when I use humic acid in small amounts, so that's what I do....scrappy

If your compost is composting, it's creating humid acid - but I got a bottle of Humic 12 just in case :p
 

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How many things are called SM-90?


It does get confusing, I think there is some hydro slop called the same name. The product I use is from kis compost teas, and is a black powder. I would send a link but my computer is being bitchy today....scrappy
 

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KIS sells the powdered seaweed extract from Acadian Seaplants, Ltd. (ASL) and between the Maxicrop product and ASL, this one is far superior.

Not to mention 40% less......
 

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My bad it's sp 90 sorry about that.
From kis compost teas.....
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Our 100% soluble powder is as pure as it gets. Containing only minute levels of moisture (<0.5%), the balance is all soluble humic acid.* Our manufacturing process eliminates the soluble ballast you might find in other "100% soluble" powders that contain lower levels of humic acid. This product is so pure it is suitable to use in professional laboratory work!* It has a perfectly neutral pH of 7.0 as well! If you're experiencing clogging problems with our SP-85, this humic acid product should take care of the problem. Available also in 55 lb. boxes at a much lower price, please call for details.
 

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It does get confusing, I think there is some hydro slop called the same name. The product I use is from kis compost teas, and is a black powder. I would send a link but my computer is being bitchy today....scrappy

SP-90

It is the humic acid which we tested as a microbial food source (NOT) in a liquid.
 

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Scrappy4

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KIS sells the powdered seaweed extract from Acadian Seaplants, Ltd. (ASL) and between the Maxicrop product and ASL, this one is far superior.

Not to mention 40% less......

I have some of that too, I have used it in foliar sprays, but not for a long time. I really do not have an opinion on it....scrappy
 

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While you are at it check out the pdf I posted here;

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=191516&highlight=humus&page=6 Post # 84

Evaluation of Conceptual Models of
Natural Organic Matter (Humus) From a
Consideration of the Chemical and
Biochemical Processes of Humification"
MM

Thanks! Links to PDF are a great thing for me because I can upload them to our iPhones and iPads so that when they are opened they appear as a 'book' meaning that you simply turn pages rather than having to scroll and scroll through the document.

You can also search for terms in a document - highlight that text string and you can pick from several colors - just like a college text-book way back when.

When you make a Bookmark in the document you can add your own information on why you made the Bookmark in the first place.

So thanks again!

CC
 

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While you are at it check out the pdf I posted here;

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=191516&highlight=humus&page=6 Post # 84

Evaluation of Conceptual Models of
Natural Organic Matter (Humus) From a
Consideration of the Chemical and
Biochemical Processes of Humification"

Dude, that link makes my head want to explode! Definitely over my head, lol. But appreciated just the same. I cut to the summary and it seems like the how's and whys are still not resolved conclusively.....scrappy
 

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Get into discussion on Humic acid sources for a real treat. Given that there are only 3 sources in the USA - TerraVita, BioAg and Mesa Verde it's fascinating.

Fun stuff!!
 
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